Members Juliajms Posted December 16, 2016 Members Share Posted December 16, 2016 I do love it when Obama uses the line "we'll respond at the time and place of our choosing". Please register in order to view this content I'm no expecting him to do anything that changes Trump's presidency, but I do hope he hits the Russians back before he leaves office. I'm talking about cyber war here not conventional. We may never know even know what is done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members marceline Posted December 16, 2016 Members Share Posted December 16, 2016 Exactly. That's the kind of hype we need less of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted December 16, 2016 Members Share Posted December 16, 2016 In terms of why POTUS may not have struck back earlier...maybe because he doesn't be in violation of international rules in how he goes after hackers within a sovereign country, especially if it is regarded as "state-sponsored" hacking. It actually requires more care in planning a response than we may think. Although I'm think that by the time POTUS has announced that the US will respond in a time and manner of its choosing, this has probably already been set in motion but it probably has taken quite some time of planning and calculation to get there. The media has clearly not learned its lesson (I guess fake news has offered them a scapegoat for their dereliction of duty). The promotion of hype and a hyped-up candidate is what has brought us to this state, in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted December 16, 2016 Members Share Posted December 16, 2016 Interesting that Yahoo believes that their 2014 hack was sponsored by a "government entity" but apparently seem not to know who/what is behind the enormous 2013 hack that they seemed only to become aware of in August. The only way, I could see Verizon wanting Yahoo is to strip the company for parts. Hacked Yahoo Data Is for Sale on Dark Web 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 This type of stuff is why I will continue boycotting North Carolina for a long time to come. It's a banana republic. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/pat-mcrory-law-restrict-roy-cooper-power-232758 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 This is the world that we live in. Trump boasts that he could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue with a gun and shoot someone and his campaign wouldn't miss a beat, people wave it off and claim it's all just talk... he's elected president. Duterte boasts that he's killed people, people dismiss it as exaggeration, he's elected president of the Philippines. Well, guess what? ‘I Cannot Lie,’ Rodrigo Duterte Says, Confirming He Did Kill People as Mayor Duterte has people who he claims are drug suspects killed, yet apparently he takes fentanyl, a very strong opiod. He claims he is not addicted, that he takes the drug only as his doctor prescribes. Well, guess what? Hitler had a doctor too and his doctor regularly prescribed drugs for Hitler (an enormous amount but all 'prescribed'). There is a well researched recently published book all about this! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 This is too funny. You know Trump is gonna lose it in a few hours. #Unpresidented Please register in order to view this content http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/typo-making-trump-calls-china-drone-seizure-unpresidented-article-1.2914276 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) An article on a big liberal/Bernie supporter who voted for Trump. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/progressive-trump-vote-214534 Edited December 17, 2016 by DRW50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) That's our boy Trump, making America grate again. Edited December 17, 2016 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 She's such a dumbass. I don't pity her goofy ass at all. Any minority that voted Trump is a moron and abhorrent. She gets no love from me. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 I will hate Bernie Sanders and his ignorant radicals for the rest of my life. My mother grew up in the Jim Crow south and people like them decided to send her back to that because they didn't get their woobie for Christmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 I like Bernie, always will. He's a cranky old jewish guy who talks with his hands. I'd vote for him just on that basis alone. So now that his presidency is just about over, I think history will show Obama dropped the ball on Syria, especially when there is now video preserved forever of desperate Syrians begging for help and chronicling their own massacre. I don't know what Obama could have done given that the country was worn out after 10 years of Iraq and Afganistan, but the US encouraged revolt when it started and sort of just abandoned them when the going got tough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted December 17, 2016 Members Share Posted December 17, 2016 And that's the problem. When we intervene people get pissed off, say we are trying to be the world's police and that we deserve the terrorism that results. When we don't, we've abandoned whatever vulnerable population that's involved in the conflict at hand. Someone on CNN yesterday was saying we should have armed the moderate rebels. How many times have we done that only to find we are arming the next wave of jihadists? I also don't think we should get involved in any more proxy wars unless we are willing to take it all the way. If we wanted to help we should have taken more refugees, but the country as a whole doesn't seem willing to do that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GMac Posted December 18, 2016 Members Share Posted December 18, 2016 I'm sorry, but encouraging revolutionaries does not make President Obama culpable in what transpired. The only way to make a marked difference would have been to send thousands of troops and there was no way that was going to fly, no matter what Obama did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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