The Politics Thread

Mark Halperin recognizes what he has wrought on Stephen Colbert's now-immortal election special:

 

Outside of the Civil War, World War II, and including 9/11, this may be the most cataclysmic event the world has ever seen.

World War Three is coming. Just remember Trump supporters, YOU voted so don't complain when something happens. I hope congress treats him the same way they treated Obama. I blame the media coverage.

We just handed the White House to Russia. Our days as a superpower are over.

I am so tired and upset. Gotta figure out how to get through the work day... 

1 minute ago, Ms. Quartermaine said:

I am so tired and upset. Gotta figure out how to get through the work day... 

 

Same here.  I got like 3 hours of sleep last night, up since 3am.  I'm so disillusioned in America.  How the majority of the country embraced this hate monger is beyond my comprehension.

9 minutes ago, marceline said:

We just handed the White House to Russia. Our days as a superpower are over.

 

I'm one who's been of the belief we have been on that path for sometime now(diminishing superpower). It's happened to countries like Great Britain and France. China has become more innovative, more intellectually superior, they have better education, they are producing the top STEM students in the world, and are very close to topping the size of our economy. The people who voted him in don't care about us being a superpower or having international presence and influence. In fact they believe it's the most Anti-American aspect of the current United States. Take all that in. It's true.

Edited November 9, 20169 yr by JaneAusten

 

It ain't on us. #ElectionNight pic.twitter.com/9ACRzwwTt0

— Rusty Redenbacher (@rustymk2) November 9, 2016

 

Can someone please explain this to me? I'm still SMH over this. As a Black women, I can at least hold my head up that I didn't contribute to fascism. It's a small moral victory but look at those other numbers! I really want an explanation. America, you've a lot to answer for!

Edited November 9, 20169 yr by DramatistDreamer

2 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

 

I'm one who's been of the belief we have been on that path for sometime now(diminishing superpower). China has become more innovative, more intellectually superior, they have better education, they are producing the top STEM students in the world, and are very close to topping the size of our economy. The people who voted him in don't care about us being a superpower or having international presence and influence. In fact they believe it's the most Anti-American aspect of the current United States. Take all that in. It's true.

 

 

I disagree. The people who voted for Trump think we're the greatest country in the world. They're about to see that the world doesn't agree.

6 minutes ago, GMac said:

 

Same here.  I got like 3 hours of sleep last night, up since 3am.  I'm so disillusioned in America.  How the majority of the country embraced this hate monger is beyond my comprehension.

 

I cried last night, but it was a quiet cry. I am now crying, and it's ugly. I'm also fighting bronchitis which has gotten worse over the last few days, and I feel like all my coughing is gonna result in me vomiting. Sorry if that's too much information. I guess if that happens, I can at least go home... 

Edited November 9, 20169 yr by Ms. Quartermaine

1 minute ago, marceline said:

 

I disagree. The people who voted for Trump think we're the greatest country in the world. They're about to see that the world doesn't agree.

I don't disagree but listen to what they talk about - how globalism is a sickness destroying this country. That's why they resent immigrants and think trade deals are the cancer of our country and want to believe that isolationism is the way to go.

Just now, JaneAusten said:

I don't disagree but listen to what they talk about - how globalism is a sickness destroying this country. That's why they resent immigrants and think trade deals are the cancer of our country and want to believe that isolationism is the way to go.

 

They want to be isolationist but they also want the perks of being a superpower. We aren't talking about logical thoughtful people.

4 minutes ago, Ms. Quartermaine said:

 

I cried last night, but it was a quiet cry. I am now crying, and it's ugly. I'm also fighting bronchitis which has gotten worse over the last few days, and I feel like all my coughing is gonna result in me vomiting. Sorry if that's too much information. I guess if that happens, I can at least go home... 

We will persevere. It's hard to have faith and courage but we all have to keep motoring on. And maybe this is a lesson to all of us to not take our democracy for granted. We survived 8 years of Bush and granted it's not really the same, but in some ways it is, the way people really embraced an intellectually unchallenged leader, an idiot really. The difference is I believe George Bush was a well intentioned idiot who loved America yet surrounded himself with corrupt greedy people. This is someone with no moral compass.

We do have to go on. The problem is not all these idiots will die out in 4-8 years. We have to mobilize, and yeah, we have to re-radicalize in some ways. It is now officially time to go further and more stridently to the left, IMO. You cannot win these people, you can only destroy them - or turn the rest with strength.

Edited November 9, 20169 yr by Vee

3 minutes ago, marceline said:

 

They want to be isolationist but they also want the perks of being a superpower. We aren't talking about logical thoughtful people.

Totally agree and they have really no idea what the responsibilities of being a superpower consists of. Well neither does our President Elect. Fact is we won't be. My original point was I think no one country stays in that position forever. And it's really China not Russia infiltrating on our leadership in the world.  They are doing much of what this country did after World War 2 that led us to be the leader of the world. Well except for freedom and democracy.

21 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Can someone please explain this to me? I'm still SMH over this. As a Black women, I can at least hold my head up that I didn't contribute to fascism. It's a small moral victory but look at those other numbers! I really want an explanation. America, you've a lot to answer for!

White women and those college educated men that were allegedly with Clinton. Oh and the Bernie Bros. The white women hurts me the most. I didn't believe my sisters were so stupid and would choose misogyny over freedom and independence.

20 minutes ago, Ms. Quartermaine said:

 

I cried last night, but it was a quiet cry. I am now crying, and it's ugly. I'm also fighting bronchitis which has gotten worse over the last few days, and I feel like all my coughing is gonna result in me vomiting. Sorry if that's too much information. I guess if that happens, I can at least go home... 

 

Just hang in there as best you can.  Please.  We'll all get through this together somehow...