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Oh thank you so much for thinking of me always

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Wow those 1985 episodes were overdramatic, weren't they?  Roya was such a Scarlet O'Hara in that scene with Jack, I love it and I love her  

Noelle was really BAD in that scene when Gwyn tell her that Cabot had a stroke. Her facial expression from "Is it Daddy?" to learning it was Cabot does not change at all

I don't know if I have ever seen Jack with facial hair. I like it. He looks sexy

And I love Christine Tudor. I don't understand why she never ended up on another soap opera.

And I love seeing James Kiberd as Mike. I have always loved him as Trevor on AMC and I have seen very little of him as Mike on Loving. 

 

And the 1983... Jack is so cute... as is Chris Marcantel. But this episode I think I have seen before. I remember seeing the shirtless Curtis with the girls  

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I'm glad you were able to watch and enjoy the episode (hopefully there will be more showing up at some point). 

Roya is always a firecracker, with her magnetism making up for the moments where Ava is just there to move the plot along. 

I never knew Jack had a beard either. Perry Stephens always looked gorgeous but it was nice to see a different style for him. I wonder if there's some list of the times soap heroes had facial hair (not those who kept it for many years, like Josh on GL).

I know Christine said when she was let go from Loving that she wanted to "get her body back" after having a child, but any planned break she took clearly never ended. 

Noelle was very green but had enough of a sincerity to help her.

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I hope so too!!

Oh Roya really is a firecracker! And she was perfect cast for Ava. 

Perry Stephens is such a classic soap hunk. When I think of 80s/90s soap hunks, that him right there. Perfect hair, nice jaw, beautiful face... Another one I always think of in this category: Thorne #1 from B&B (actor's name escapes me now... I remember seeing his pic in the 90s in the news papers when B&B was starting in my country and I was like omg! :D)

We should start a topic on the soap hunk who sometimes wore beards

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I do think Noelle got better later, because I don't remember disliking her in later years which I watched back when I air in my country. I kinda liked Trisha and Steve back then before he died. And you're right she does have sincerity in her acting. She's also very well cast in the role of this young soap ingenue. 

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Lauren still has a lot of energy and looks well. Another one of those people from Loving who was just sort of left behind by the industry after the show was done.

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By the time "Loving" ended her type wasn't big in daytime anymore. Those women who lived their lives fully balancing careers and families were slowly fading and were mostly for women who had been on their shows a while. I do think Taylor would have worked as a Harley surrogate in as the fiesty working class woman. I think she could have been a Reardon (maybe Matt and Bridget's sister) who could be involved with Phillip and/or Rick. 

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This was 1983 - and at the time I would say Agnes Nixon was the second most powerful woman at ABC Daytime (after Gloria Monty). Nixon sold All My Children to ABC by that time, so she couldn't take AMC elsewhere. But the story goes (as recounted in the Ryan's Hope book) Nixon was threatening to bolt to another network (NBC) and work her magic on their soaps, unless she got Ryan's Hope timeslot. That is something ABC didn't want to happen, so it was easier to switch shows, instead of losing Nixon. 

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Jim Muneco has uploaded three June 1985 episodes. These have been up before, as the great Loving blog recapped them, but I hadn't seen them, so I'll share them in case you hadn't either.

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