Loving/The City Discussion Thread

[NothinButAttitude]

Speaking of the Donovans, is it just me or does their kitchen somewhat mirror the Snyder farm on ATWT? That whole kitchen to the porch aesthetic? That's why I believe as @Sapounopera pointed out that the Donovans must've been Marland's idea.  

[Matt]

I also have this curated/chronological playlist I put together last year covering the whole run of Loving/The City with full episodes, dated clips, edits, & dated promos (to fill in blanks)

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[DRW50]

Thanks @Matt !

[DRW50]

Someone uploaded this to Archive not long ago. It's most of February 8, 1988. I don't think it's been up before (apologies if it has) so I am posting it. If you have a problem watching the video you can download by clicking on the mpeg4 button and then clicking again to download the file.

"Loving" Soap Opera Full Episode From February 8th, 1988 : Junknasium : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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Edited August 5, 2024 by DRW50

[te.]

Thank you!

[Forever8]

Thank you so much! I will take a look at it when I get the time. 

[Joseph]

WOE THANKS! And thanks for The tag!

[Maxim]

This is very interesting. Thank you for the tag

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[Franko]

Nice! Thank you.

[Paul Raven]

Thank you

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[Manny]

Oh nice!! I will check it out. Thank you so much for the tag!!

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[Contessa Donatella]

Thanks for the tag!

[NothinButAttitude]

Thanks @DRW50!

[dc11786]

Thanks @DRW50. I find the post Marland years hit or miss until about Jacquie Babbin's arrival, but it always good to see something different. 

I feel like Ralph Ellis' work tends to better in the grand scope of weeks at a time rather than single episodes, at least that was the case with what I've seen of his Search for Tomorrow in 1982. The serious tone is always appreciated, but Ellis is one of the writers who struggles in the 1980s writing the more action & adventure plots that shows like General Hospital had been come to be known for. The whole Jim / Carrie / Dan / Brad foreign espionage stuff is not for me. I don't think that's something that I would ever enjoy even over extended episodes. It's reminiscent of the jungle story with Brian, Warren, and Suzi on Search for Tomorrow 

I think Ava's quest to determine the truth about her husband is probably one of the show's most unique plots in the 1980s. Ava the schemer being married to a man masquerading as Clay Alden is very intriguing. I thought the Cabot / Ava scene was very poignant, as well as pointed, given Ava's history with the Alden family and references to Gwyn and Clay's marriage. I think the back and forth between Ava and "Clay" is wonderful. I also appreciate how integrated "Clay" is into the Amourelle / AE story structure. 

Ron Nummi should have been Curtis Alden. It would have made his scheme with Lily a bit more noteable given their history. I don't know how Lilly was chosen as the Amourelle model given her history, but I do think the set up of this secret affair story works. The problem, much like the Clay story, is that it is all hopelessly generic to me at times. I feel like Lily is just some woman from Jack's past without all the baggage surrounding the murder trial, the incest, the rivalry with Curtis, etc. I do appreciate how Ann seems to be manipulating things behind the scenes to keep the truth from coming out. 

It's also to see what that brief period of Loving where Trisha is sidelined because Steve has died and Jeff Hartman is on the scene looks like. 

[Kane]

Thanks for the tag! It's always a treat to get to see an episode from the 80s.