"I seriously cannot believe he was nominated for Outstanding Writing in a Drama. laugh.gif This is JER! tongue.gif rolleyes.gif Even though some maybe call 2001 the glory years..."

Believe it or not, JER *has* an Emmy for Outstanding Writing for his year or so on Guiding Light.

I used to love PASSIONS. It is a joke now, but the fact is, it makes no sense to ME that why on earth would NBC even bother to launch a new show, HOPING it gets higher ratings than Passions. No new show, IMO, no matter how good it is, will climb out of the ratings gutter. A new show launched would likely be at the very bottom no matter what. Could I be wrong? Of COURSE, and I'd love to be wrong. I'd love to have a new soap launch, and have it do well, but seriously, can any of you, with a straight face, see a new soap actually doing over, say, a 2.3? Especially on NBC? Even with Days? Nope ... Is NBC stupid enough to risk it? YEP. They've done it to MANY soaps, so who's to say they wouldn't do it to Passions?

And remember folks, Gabe DOES have inside information, but as he pointed out, it's all TALK. It could happen ... but it could not, too. Things fall through, deals don't happen, people back out, etc. It's exciting we might get another soap, but why must it always be at the expense of another? NBC seriously could benefit from three soaps, but I guess it'd be too tough to pry away the time from the affiliates.

If NBC could get a new soap to just bring in 2.0 reliably with similar demographics to "DAYS", they'd see that as grounds to cancel PASSIONS.

But I personally don't want to see PASSIONS cancelled.

It would be great if they could just have 3 soaps! Days of Our Lives, What's Done In the Dark, Passions. But then that would mean shelling out too much money.

They'd rather take the money they use to produce PASSIONS, keep Lindsay Hartley and just do a whole new show.

THE BIGGIE and BEST IDEA....is to totally revamp PASSIONS.

But then they'd have to get rid of James Reilly and that could become a major and expensive LEGAL battle for control of the show.

But hey--they could get rid of Reilly and revamp PASSIONS and make it more traditional.

I think PSNS needs to stick with its original idea. The show has SO much untapped potential, however bad writing and bad acting makes it fail. Imagine if PSNS had some better writers and better actors, and stuck to the original concept, this show would be much better. For goodness sakes they have Juliet Mills, Andrea Evans, and Kim Ulrich...SO much possibility.

I think PSNS needs to stick with its original idea. The show has SO much untapped potential, however bad writing and bad acting makes it fail. Imagine if PSNS had some better writers and better actors, and stuck to the original concept, this show would be much better. For goodness sakes they have Juliet Mills, Andrea Evans, and Kim Ulrich...SO much possibility.

Excellent post. If it didn't drag out the stories so long and kept with it's identity all along, Passions might be alot better off. On top of those you mentioned it has Lindsey Hartley, Nicole Cox, Ben Masters, Liza Huber, Silvana Arias, Cathy Doe, Brook Kerr, Tracey Ross (not terrible), Emily Harper, Heidi Mueller (has improved alot), Dylan Fergus (not bad), Galen Ghering and McKenzie Westmore (not bad), Chris Maleki (not bad), and Kathleen Noone and Marianne Muerielle off and on. They have many average actors and a fair amount of above average. This show has potential to be sucessful but JER may have squandered it by dragging things out and abandoning some of what worked for the show in the early going and waiting far too long to return to all that.

If NBC could get a new soap to just bring in 2.0 reliably with similar demographics to "DAYS", they'd see that as grounds to cancel PASSIONS.

But I personally don't want to see PASSIONS cancelled.

It would be great if they could just have 3 soaps! Days of Our Lives, What's Done In the Dark, Passions. But then that would mean shelling out too much money.

They'd rather take the money they use to produce PASSIONS, keep Lindsay Hartley and just do a whole new show.

THE BIGGIE and BEST IDEA....is to totally revamp PASSIONS.

But then they'd have to get rid of James Reilly and that could become a major and expensive LEGAL battle for control of the show.

But hey--they could get rid of Reilly and revamp PASSIONS and make it more traditional.

But that would be a 'bad' thing, Erica. Making it more 'traditional,' I mean. This is a supernatural soap about four families in New England who endure the same trials, loves and losses seen in everyday life. That's the show's concept. That's what sets it apart. Speeding things up (by about 90 percent) and letting the show take itself a bit more seriously would help, yes, but ditching what makes "Passions" "Passions" -- not to mention, what definitely worked for several years, based on past ratings, would be wrong. Honestly, I think if the actors step up to the plate and the stories move at warp speed and JER proves that things do 'happen' on this show, it could stay as campy and zany as it wants. The pacing is the biggest problem.

But it's not a supernatural soap. Not anymore. Sure you have the odd-Tabitha appearance, but it's not close to what the focus of the show was when it launched. It's now a show where the absurd is no longer houses sinking into hell, but pimping out the police chief's daughter and trying to rape anything with a vagina.

Its why I don't watch Passions anymore, and why I can't stand it. I used to either be a fan, or atleast a semi-follower of it for years. But what it is now is a disgrace. It's truely a show set out to tarnish the image of soap opera by purposly making itself a laughing stock with its 7 year unresolved storylines and its buildups with no resolution.

If you are looking for a supernatural soap, rent Dark Shadows. Grab a canadian satelite feed and watch Strange Paradise. Hell, you can even watch that abysmal Port Charles on soapnet if you're truely desperate for something outside the box. But don't be looking at the pathetic excuse on NBC weekdays called Passions.

"I seriously cannot believe he was nominated for Outstanding Writing in a Drama. laugh.gif This is JER! tongue.gif rolleyes.gif Even though some maybe call 2001 the glory years..."

Believe it or not, JER *has* an Emmy for Outstanding Writing for his year or so on Guiding Light.

Indeed he does, but he won it as part of a team which wrote the show in between the Pamela Long and Lorraine Broderick eras- I think it was made up of Reilly, Broderick, Curlee and Demorest.

But it's not a supernatural soap. Not anymore. Sure you have the odd-Tabitha appearance, but it's not close to what the focus of the show was when it launched. It's now a show where the absurd is no longer houses sinking into hell, but pimping out the police chief's daughter and trying to rape anything with a vagina.

Its why I don't watch Passions anymore, and why I can't stand it. I used to either be a fan, or atleast a semi-follower of it for years. But what it is now is a disgrace. It's truely a show set out to tarnish the image of soap opera by purposly making itself a laughing stock with its 7 year unresolved storylines and its buildups with no resolution.

If you are looking for a supernatural soap, rent Dark Shadows. Grab a canadian satelite feed and watch Strange Paradise. Hell, you can even watch that abysmal Port Charles on soapnet if you're truely desperate for something outside the box. But don't be looking at the pathetic excuse on NBC weekdays called Passions.

That's the whole point, Drew. "Passions" needs to make that committment and go back to its roots. It needs to be supernatural. That and the speed are the only problems that I can tell. And what you mentioned, all the rapes. Fans will recall that 1999-2001, for the most part, that 'classic' era everyone talks about, was rather "innocent." It wasn't trying to be "daring" with all the cutting, the rapes, the prostitution. That doesn't work on this show.

THE BIGGIE and BEST IDEA....is to totally revamp PASSIONS.

But then they'd have to get rid of James Reilly and that could become a major and expensive LEGAL battle for control of the show.

But hey--they could get rid of Reilly and revamp PASSIONS and make it more traditional.

Well if NBC can do it to the Dobsons...

It's truely a show set out to tarnish the image of soap opera by purposly making itself a laughing stock with its 7 year unresolved storylines and its buildups with no resolution.

Word. What the hell kind of show has 7 year unresolved storylines? 7 YEARS!

Answer: PASSIONS

The only time I used to watch it a little bit was when Sheridan was in the pit. And even I thought that lasted way too long.

And I think NBC should consider having 3 soaps on the air, but I doubt they have the money for it. Imagine... DAYS OF OUR LIVES, followed by WHAT'S DONE IN THE DARK, and PASSIONS.

Or they could also just try to revamp the show, as Gabe said. First thing to do... get JER outta there!

This is an interesting thread!

I am not too worried about CBSd imploding right now. TPIR will be getting a new host, and CBS is doing the best of the 3 networks right now in terms of keeping/gaining any viewers in a declining genre.

The rumor of a new Bell soap on NBC really intrigues me. I don't understand how anyone can think this is a bad idea, I mean I don't care for B&B too much compared to Y&R, but there's no arguing it's the most popular soap worldwide. And if you're going to try a new soap nowadays, why not go with currently the only really successful production company (Bell)? That would be a smart move on NBC's part, imo. That said, I have serious doubts any new soap can really take off nowadays, soaps just aren't as popular as they used to be. Wish it weren't so.

As an ex-NBCd viewer, I can def. say (just for me personally) there is no chance I will ever check out Passions again, but I would def. make time to check out a new Bell soap over there, esp. if he taps a team like Jack Smith/Kay Alden as HWs. *If* (and that's a huge If) a new soap had any chance of a shot nowadays, I think that could be the team to do it.

The rumor of a new Bell soap on NBC really intrigues me. I don't understand how anyone can think this is a bad idea, I mean I don't care for B&B too much compared to Y&R, but there's no arguing it's the most popular soap worldwide.

I don't think it's a bad idea. I just don't believe it.

Brad Bell can write a soap opera. He's proven this time and time again on B&B. Though B&B can be annoying sometimes with it's repetitive storylines, it's still has it's moments.

A new soap for NBC would be great. Brad Bell being at the helms would be great. Is it believable? Not so much.