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ABC was the rapemance network in the 1980s. Luke/Laura in the daytime. Dynasty had Blake/Krystle marital rape and Adam/Kirby date rape.

Do you mean the second episode of season 6? That was the first time Dynasty got beat by Murder, She Wrote.

As the World Turns had two big departures in Fall 1989, Martha Byrne and Hillary Bailey Smith. Also that fall Frannie was recast with Mary Ellen Stuart. What did the most damage to GL in the 1980s, Douglas Marland departure, Gail Kobe/Pamela Long era chasing all the 1980s trends, or the writer turnover during the first half of Joe Willmore run as EP? As I pointed out before, GL avoided cancel territory in the 1980s because Capitol showed no growth and B&B wasn't a hit right away. Even though GL ends the 1980s as CBS's lowest rated soap, it doesn't enter cancel territory until 1995.

Y&R this week was the start of summer social issue storyline Cricket date rape. Guiding Light this week Kimberley Simms debut.

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Among solo artists, Taylor Swift has moved past Stevie Wonder and Janet Jackson and is now tied with Whitney Houston. The next solo artists in line for her to tie with are Madonna (12), Michael Jackson (13), Drake (13), and Rihanna (14). Among all artists, Taylor Swift is the 9th artist to reach 11 #1s on the Billboard Hot 100, joining The Beatles (20), Mariah Carey (19), Rihanna (14), Michael Jackson (13), Drake (13), The Supremes (12), Madonna (12), Whitney Houston (11). Comparing Taylor Swift to the other female solo artists w/ 11+ #1s to see where she ranks in terms of length between first #1 and 11th #1. The dates are when each song reached #1. Rihanna: 5 years 183 days, between SOS (May 13, 2006) and We Found Love (November 12, 2011). Mariah Carey: 5 years 274 days, between Vision of Love (August 4, 1990) and Always be My Baby (May 4, 1996). Whitney Houston: 10 years 30 days, between Saving All My Love for You (October 26, 1985) and Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (November 25, 1995). Madonna: 10 years 65 days, between Like a Virgin (December 22, 1984) and Take a Bow (February 25, 1995). Taylor Swift: 11 years 71 days, between We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together (September 1, 2012) and Is it Over Now (November 11, 2023).

I don't know. I was fairly new to watching GL at this time. Maybe those that watched longer than I did have better insights. Kids off school for the summer.

Not to derail the thread, but Magnum, P.I. was effectively over Spring 1986 when it was killed by The Cosby Show. Even though Dynasty was still a Top 10 show heading into Fall 1986, it was tanking like all the other primetime soaps were at that time. Maybe CBS thought Magnum, P.I. could maintain the audience it had left better at Wednesday 9 pm than at Thursday 8 pm.

Yes, that's right. The addition of the Spectra gang is paying off, plus I think we will be seeing clearances increase during the rest of 1989 and into 1990. I really enjoyed Guiding Light during Robert Calhoun's run and it disappoints me that the ratings didn't reflect the quality of the show. From the annual ratings, GL remains in 7th place in 1989/90 and 1990/91 but the actual ratings drop. It's so funny that during the second half of 1989 CBS daytime is hitting its stride w/ all four soaps plus the game show block and CBS primetime is in the midst of its third place mess era.

Fall 1988 ABC moved Dynasty to Thursday 9 pm head-to-head w/ Cheers where it was DOA. Brandon Stoddard knew exactly what he was doing when he moved Dynasty to a time slot that had been a dead zone for ABC since Fall 1982. Candy Spelling pretty much confirmed that Brandon Stoddard wanted Aaron Spelling shows gone from ABC. I'd say that final season move was sabotage moreso than tank job.

Another top 5 week for Guiding Light. May 30 Springfield learns Roger survived the fall off the cliff in Santo Domingo. June was the EP change from Joe Willmore to Robert Calhoun but we're seeing another ratings drop.

Of all the EPs As the World Turns had in its final 25 years, go figure that Chris Goutman is the one that had the longest run (11 years).

Y&R this week was Phillip III car accident. May 26 Thom Bierdz departure. Also Y&R in May 1989 was Victor taking over Jabot. Guiding Light in the top 5 for the first time since late 1985. The Friday cliffhanger was a masked Roger crashing Phillip and Blake's wedding and the following Tuesday Springfield learned that Roger survived the fall off the cliff in Santo Domingo.

This was when Victor gave Ryan a blank check to stay away from Victoria and Ryan filled it out for $1M. Later Victoria visits Ryan and when the police are taking Ryan away Victoria blurts out that she and Ryan are married.

@JAS0N47 I believe for 1991 you are missing March 14 and 15, NCAA Men's Basketball.

1979 Another World was head-to-head w/ General Hospital and as we all know, General Hospital blew up that year and would dominate for the better part of 1979-1986, therefore Another World effectively over.

Y&R is destroying everything in its path, time slot wise and overall. It's the combination of owing its time slot, having strong lead ins, and maintaining its audience during the writer's strike that got Y&R to #1. 1989 had the pivotal storylines of Victor taking over Jabot and Phillip III's car accident that set everything in motion for the 1990s but the rest of the big storylines Brad in a cage, George Rawlins murder, Kay/Marge I didn't think were very good plus Cricket was still eating the show. Y&R also had their third big cast departure in as many years when Terry Lester (RIP) left in September 1989. Yet Another World managed to stay on the air another decade. If NBC hadn't been such a mess on the whole in the late 1970s, Another World probably would have ended in 1979. Changing times and changing tastes. The big 1980s trends were probably wearing thin at this point.

As I've pointed out before, Ryan's Hope was effectively over in 1983 when Y&R blew up. If we're keeping it real here, Agnes Nixon clout w/ ABC got Loving on the air in the first place. It was DOA head-to-head w/ The Price is Right and stood no chance when it was moved head-to-head w/ Y&R.

We're now at the point that each network has 3 1/2 hours of soaps (3 1 hour soaps and 1 30 minute soap) all broadcast between 12:30 pm-4 pm ET. Let's see how they got there over the course of the 1980s. CBS: The decade began w/ Y&R, Search for Tomorrow, As the World Turns, Guiding Light, Love of Life. February 1, 1980 Love of Life ends. February 4, 1980 Y&R expands to 1 hour. March 26, 1982 Search for Tomorrow CBS run ends. March 29, 1982-March 20, 1987 Capitol run. March 23, 1987 B&B premiere. CBS had four different soap blocks in the 1980s. ABC: The decade began w/ Ryan's Hope, All My Children, One Life to Live, General Hospital, The Edge of Night. June 27, 1983 Loving premiere. December 28, 1984 The Edge of Night ends. January 13, 1989 Ryan's Hope ends. ABC had four different soap blocks in the 1980s. NBC: The decade began w/ Days, The Doctors, Another World. August 4, 1980-December 31, 1982 Texas run. March 29, 1982-December 26, 1986 Search for Tomorrow NBC run. December 31, 1982 The Doctors ends. July 30, 1984 Santa Barbara premiere. March 27, 1989 Generations premiere. NBC had seven different soap blocks in the 1980s.

Also Y&R was killing it. Remember that in the Eastern time zone second half of Y&R was head-to-head w/ first half of Days.

Two pivotal events are coming up on Y&R: Victor takes over Jabot and Phillip III's car accident. That sets everything in motion for the 1990s. B&B is showing growth. April 27, 1989 was Bobbie Eakes debut. Guiding Light is showing some signs of life. We're a month away from Springfield learning that Roger survived the fall off the cliff in Santo Domingo, and two months away from Robert Calhoun becoming EP. The last year and a half of the supercouple era is starting with a ratings crash.

CBS and P&G were really shaken up by the huge rise of ABC in the late 1970s and early 1980s, and we've seen evidence of that in the ratings threads and of course on screen.

@Paul Raven @AbcNbc247 Bo/Hope wedding May 20-24, 1985 Days was 3rd tied w/ Y&R. Remember that 1985 Days time slot competition was strong All My Children, rising Y&R, middle ranked As the World Turns. 1987 Days time slot competition was strong Y&R, not yet a hit B&B, weakened All My Children.

Y&R is killing it! Brad in a cage had wrapped up and the next big storylines were Phillip/Nina wedding and George Rawlins murder. Surprised to see Generations premiere w/ 97% clearance. I thought it would be lower.

Scrabble dropped w/ the move and Generations didn't inherit the Scrabble audience. Thank you @JAS0N47