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Controversial take here, but I think black viewers played a big part in NBC's primetime comeback during the second half of the 1980s and NBC was hoping for those viewers to carry over to their daytime line up.

It still has that 1990s coffeehouse vibe.

Nikki married David in 2008 shortly before Victor married Sabrina. Nikki married Deacon in 2011 when she thought Victor had married Meggie.

Linda Gray and Donna Mills were both born in 1940 but holy difference in the aging.

Guiding Light May 27, 1991 Melissa Hayden debut. Y&R June 7, 1991 Nathan and Olivia get married. Y&R is just so ahead of the pack. @Soapsuds will be happy to see As the World Turns in 2nd. CBS entire lineup in the Top 5 🤩 ABC's big three appear to be tanking 🤯

100% this. High quality writing and acting will always triumph over any big money set design/wardrobe/music.

Crimson Lights has been around for nearly 30 years. I can't remember if that set has been renovated much over the years. The set for Gina's had been around for 30 years before it was retired due to increasing maintenance costs so maybe Crimson Lights might meet that same fate soon.

Larsa Pippen, Marcus Jordan Say Engagement ‘Is in the Works’ (Exclusive) (people.com) Marcus better stack his coins good. He's about to get a reduced role in Michael Jordan estate planning.

Y&R is solid at #1. The bottom three are set at Another World, Santa Barbara, Loving. The remaining seven are jockeying for position.

Y&R is destroying everything in its path. They are so far ahead of everyone. B&B big event: Sally learns she is pregnant (April 25 is the date of this episode on the YT channel but I calculated air date May 20). Guiding Light big events: Roger learns Hart is his son. Mindy has a miscarriage. Alexandra is putting the pieces together about Roger.

I think the shift started earlier than the dream season. 1982/83 Dallas got less modern day western and more corporate. Then 1984/85 Dallas got more glamorous.

Gordon Thomson is Canadian so I wouldn't really consider him foreign.

It was the combination of Bill Bell's writing and EB's acting that made Victor's character arc, from short-term villain to anti-hero/romantic leading man with the backstory of being abandoned as a child and becoming a self-made man, a success. Bill Bell was the only writer that understood Victor as a character. I'd go as far to say that Victor is Bill Bell's greatest male character.

Guiding Light this week: Mindy learns she is pregnant. Nia Long debut. Guiding Light this week: Melina Kanakaredes debut.

Forgot in my previous list, Jaime Lyn Bauer. Shortly after her original Y&R run ended, she was on the short-lived NBC primetime soap Bare Essence. Other primetime roles were guest star on The Love Boat, Fantasy Island, Hotel, Knots Landing. She returned to daytime w/ Days.

I don't remember anything being reported in the press of a Bell/Spelling beef but when you factor in the Hunter Tylo lawsuit and the actor swapping between their shows, I can't help but wonder if there was one.

Some of the original cast went on to other soaps, but were they well received in their other roles? William Gray Espy - Another World James Houghton - Knots Landing, The Colbys Janice Lynde - Another World, One Life to Live Those are the ones I know off the top of my head. If any actors/roles are missing please add.

Not to derail this thread, but I thought there might have been some beef between Bill Bell and Aaron Spelling in the late 1990s. This would have been around the time of the Hunter Tylo lawsuit and in that same time frame there was actor swapping among Y&R/B&B and the Spelling shows.

Y&R this week: Cassandra death. Nina shoots David. Lauren gives birth to Scott Jr. Sheila kidnaps Scott Jr. from the hospital, switches him with another baby boy, and passes off Scott Jr. as her own son. Maybe the drop is due to the cast purge from January and February. We're two months into Nancy Curlee run as HW and there's only four months left of Robert Calhoun as EP.

Y&R 1982-1986 action/adventure storylines. They were tame in comparison to General Hospital and Days in that same era but I found action/adventure never really suited Y&R. Summer 1986-end of 1989 Cricket eating the show. Fall 1994-Spring 1996 Nick and Sharon eating the show. Fall 1996- first half of 1997 lull in all the storylines. B&B The main criticism of Bill Bell B&B is that a lot of storylines were dust offs of 1970s and 1980s Y&R.

Texas oil millionaire in 1991. Bill Bell was a decade late to the party there.

1991 Guiding Light had big cast changes. Departures of Grant Aleksander, Beth Chamberlin, Kassie DePaiva, Robert Newman, Michael O'Leary. Debuts of Melissa Hayden, Melina Kanakaredes, Nia Long, Jeff Phillips, Jocelyn Seagrave. Return of Vincent Irizarry. I think that covers the main ones.

Y&R February 5 Sheila has a miscarriage. Y&R February 14 we saw during the classics. Kristoff St. John (RIP) debut. Guiding Light Phillip and Beth get married. Grant Aleksander and Beth Chamberlin departure.

The same could apply to Victoria. Born in 1982 so 41 in real time but came across as in the 30s for years.

EB wrote in his book that he did not have a very good relationship w/ John Conboy. In many articles/interviews EB has credited both Bill Bell and H. Wesley Kenney for his decision to stay on Y&R.