Gray Bunny

Well, well, well. I finally get to see what kind of numbers Saved by the Bell was pulling in their heyday.

Well, firstly, we'd have a weeklong national mourning celebration. I keep hoping for the day he has a collapse onstage and takes a fatal tumble. I'd much rather he go out that way versus someone taking him out, because then the crazy rightwingers and conspiracy theorists will go on a tirade and kill any "evil liberal" they come in contact with.

I agree that there needs to be a break from the endless petty dinner fights, week after week. I will say though that Married to Medicine does it better. Last night's M2M was also a break from the drama, and a focus on their individual lives, but the women on that show are just... more interesting. Watching these shows back to back there was a definite contrast between these shows that were both in a lull between the blow-ups; Potomac's personal lives just don't add up to much substance.

I mean... yeah. LOL They're all liars. And I'll add a +1 to the Angie hubby rumor since it was apparently circulating all over SLC for the last couple decades, thus hardly a shocker today (albeit, on camera, but still)

I thought the same thing; would be awesome to see those types of comparison charts.

Gasped when I saw the news. So sad. We could tell his health was deteriorating but I hoped he would be with us forever. Very lucky to have met him and Susan back in 2012. My heart goes out to her.

100%. I feel like Wendy is the least worst, but mostly I feel sorry because she is unfairly targeted by the GEB's. But yeah, Monique and Candiace have been the only good additions to this cast. Potomac and SLC always seem to have the most shallow pools of talent to choose from.

But it's so easy to But yeah Annemarie (to be honest, I've been calling her Anna Maria, so I can't even get the name right) and Nneka both came in as total weaksauce with nothing to really establish themselves individually, and then they pick on one castmember to have some random beef with that doesn't land at all. Especially Annemarie.

Being labeled a Karen isn’t about race. It’s about their feelings of entitlement and privilege, and when their feelings of entitlement are challenged, they play victim. I’ve seen black women, Korean women, and Hispanic women labeled as a Karen on my own experience alone.

On one hand, I agree with @DaytimeFan regarding the whole ick factor of it all. Particularly the cyber "bullying" through an Instagram account. On the other hand, her hustle (to the extremes, befriending/working for Jen Shah) to get on this show and be a *star* is nothing out of the ordinary. I found it ridiculous how Heather/Lisa/Angie were ridiculing her for trying to get on the show when they ALL did it and continue to go the extra mile to maintain their status as a reality TV figure. And I have to agree with you that the majority of all the other arguments and issues this season were the usual petty squabbles between the core four that's already been done for the last 3 years. Again, they came out strong their first season. There was a long break between filming the 1st season versus when it aired (presumably when Monica first met Jen but didn't know of her RHOSLC status...?), and they all got pumped up on their own hype and the social media petty stuff after Season 1 aired, and then come Season 2, all the ups and downs of people liking/hating/forgiving/hating again cycle began. When Bravo rolled that clip package last night of all the different fights amongst the women, it was pretty telling that they showed ALL the arguments in ONE clip package, versus dissecting each issue individually. None of them were really that deep. Meanwhile, I've never taken a liking to Angie, who does come off thirstier to be there, and she's lucky the talent pool in SLC is shallow, because she could easily be written out next season with no one batting an eye. BH: @Antoyne I'm in agreement with you. The microaggressions and tone deafness (i.e. the comments about her staff, etc.) have built up to this.

Agreed. At this point, I consider these to be improvised soap operas. The producers/headwriters come up with ideas and have their breakdown writers/producers flesh out the individual arcs, and then the on-air talent / actors / Housewives are responsible for fleshing out the dialogue (i.e. the scriptwriters). The producers tell them what, when, where, who they're filming with, and give them bullet points of topics to discuss (other castmates; their marriage woes; sketchy businesses; their beef with others, etc.), and will coach them on the side with topics to bring up as they're filming their 987th recreation of the next "Dinner Party From Hell." That's why I always give a great big Anderson Cooper eyeroll whenever someone brings up a topic in front of everyone that clearly makes everyone squirm or it's something that should really be discussed one-on-one with the individual they're beefing with, because I just know the producers off-camera told them to bring it up. It's such a tired formula at this point, and it's no wonder they stepped up their game this year by knowingly hiring someone (Monica) who's been lowkey stalking the castmates for years in hopes of joining the show. There's no shame in her game, I guess(?), as so many newbies are just ridiculously thirsty (see the new Danielle on RHONJ, for example) to be the next *STAR*. But it is starting to come off as icky now, with Bravo going to great lengths for their next November Sweeps twist. Andy Cohen considers Housewives to be modern day soap operas. As such, their lifespans will be shorter. Real Housewives of Orange County won't be celebrating their 72nd anniversary to match Guiding Light, godwilling. To equate Housewives to Soaps, I'd say we're in the mid-2000's now; numbers are down and showrunners are scrambling. Add to that, they're also at a crossroads of keeping their veterans that they've mostly run out of story for, or flood the show with cheaper newbies. A Whodunnit Murder Mystery is sure to be in the cards for 2025. Or Dissociative Identity Disorder. Or maybe someone's househusband will accidentally get his peen cut off and sewn back on upside down. I vote Joe Gorga. LOL.

Did you spot yourself in the footage? Agree with all that Karen is the one that helps bring any joy and lightheartedness to this increasingly toxic franchise. Such a shame; Potomac was always the breath of fresh air when the other shows were darker or just blah.

Now that I've had time to process that epic finale, I think the biggest "person" at fault is Bravo. You cannot tell me that didn't already know about her online persona when they casted her. Furthermore, I have to question the fact that Jen Shah's team already knew about Monica's online persona a couple years back, and this information didn't get back to anyone (Heather, etc.) prior to filming season 4? And Heather's own hairstylist is the main culprit of the Instagram account? Everything and everyone is suspect in this whole ordeal. Still, it made for some damn good television.

Word. Same.

Thanks for posting! I'd seen the numbers for DAYS' One Stormy Night, Night Sins, & Winter Heat years ago, but never knew how AW's primetime show did.

Sorry to the GH fans for his inevitable comeback (stay far away from Genoa City), but he was an absolute pointless character that should have never lasted beyond Beyond. And by all means, take Carly #2 with you.

Wow, the way these numbers yo-yo is quite remarkable, along with their ever-changing rankings. Also, everyone's back in the 8's and 7's when just a couple months back, their May sweeps numbers were down in the 6's/5's.

I definitely see your point, especially her "acting." I think it's a weird complex blend of a real separation but also being played out by both parties for reality TV, for the sake of both of their "brands."

Perhaps because they still think it's the 80's where big name sports stars "watch their stories" in between practices.

Nah, Princess Gina tossed her out the window of the bistro. The stairs were already long gone. The only things I remember they used the staircase for was at the very beginning when Jack returned and literally fell over the ledge, and I think Nicole had some sort of baby breakdown re: Daniel & Jennifer at one point. The whole thing looked too cardboardy as it is. I think the whole thing shook when a closeted Will pressed a dude up against it when he had his first male-on-male make-out moment.

When the Square was introduced back in September 2011, it was mentioned as being under a dome (I think Freddie Smith's Sonny had the throwaway line), which would explain why no one is bundled up in the dead of winter. No explanation as to how the brick staircase on the righthand side mysteriously disappeared a couple years afterwards. Maybe it's hiding under that one extra's wig.

I know I went overboard on the "Worst Trends," but man, after seeing the most recent photos of some of the New Jersey women, I have to add: Ozempic. Which also reminds me of how stupid Jenn Fessler was to only eat garbage food while taking it and then be surprised to have a bowel obstruction. I see a future Netflix series about the rise, fall, and dangers of this drug a few years from now.

Great picks @DaytimeFan I agree about Jenn Fessler from NJ. And I cannot believe I forgot to include one that was on my mind all day: BEST NEW CATCHPHRASE: “Name ‘em!” as repeated by Sutton Stracke, RHOBH. An instant new Housewives classic.

Alrighty folks, let's get this Best & Worst of the Housewives 2023 party started! As usual, some of the specifics of the first half of the year are blurry, so the more current shows are fresh in my mind. I'm sure I'll add and subtract as we go along Also to note for my own list: I do not watch Miami or Dubai. My advance apologies if I went overboard on the categories this year. I was inspired by browsing through an old Best & Worst Digest of '96... (i.e. Best Shows: Y&R/DAYS/GH; Most Disappointing Show: ATWT; Worst Story: Roger's Gaslighting on GL; Best Story: GH's Cassadine saga, etc... Good times). BEST RETURN: Tamra Judge, RHOC. From the moment she reclaimed her orange on Watch What Happens Live, we knew we were in for something good. And boy, did she deliver. Right out of the gate, she caused drama with old friends, made new enemies, and even managed to alienate the newbie that she brought on to the show! Yes, I will admit she went a tad overboard and could’ve held some of her cards for the next season, but she wanted everyone to remember why she makes for good reality TV. Welcome back Tamra [and welcome back Eddie, one of the finest Househusbands]. WORST RETURN: Kelly Bensimon, RHUGT: RHONY Legacy. If Kelly was hoping to repair her image and show the world she’s not “CRAZY KELLY,” she fell flat on that conquest. A mere three episodes in, and she has already shown us she has not changed one bit from her days of Scary Island, Chef. Vs. Cook, I’m Up Here / You’re Down Here, You Called Me Madonna, and other aloof, unintelligible, and contradictory remarks that make her so frustrating to watch. BEST FRIEND-OF RETURN: Mary Cosby, RHOSLC. She’s mean, she’s judgmental, she doesn’t want to participate in anything. Yet, she’s here and we’re here for it. Oh sure, not everyone is going to agree with me on this one, but her outspokenness is like listening to a 90-year-old woman with no filter, not giving a damn who she insults. It made for outrageous reality TV, which is what this franchise needed for the first half of the season. BEST EXIT: Lisa Rinna, RHOBH. She’s gone and that’s what matters. On pause, on rest, temporarily fired, who cares what the spin may be. She’s out, which is what RHOBH needed to continue. BEST NEWCOMER, Part I: Monica Garcia, RHOSLC. Without seeing the finale or reunion, she has thus far been a welcome addition to the Beehive State. Perhaps she is graded on a curve because RHOSLC was in desperate need of new blood and new alliances. Whatever the case may be, she has opened up more so than the majority of her cast members have given us in four years. BEST NEWCOMER, Part II: Jennifer Pedranti, RHOC. OC has had trouble finding solid newcomers in recent years, so when Jennifer Pedranti was brought in as a friend of Tamra’s my initial thought was: Another busty blonde named Jen; another one season wonder. How delightful to see I was wrong. Jennifer has been a welcome addition to the cast and will hopefully forge new friendships with other cast members next season since her “friend” Tamra treated her like trailer trash (how ironic). WORST NEWCOMER: Sai De Silva, RHONY. When the OG of the original cast says you’re a dud, you’re a dud. I can see Bravo going either way: give her another year to try to endear herself to the audience, or Katie Rost her ass and bring in someone fabulous to replace her. BEST TREND, Part I: Old Housewife, New City. (Taylor Armstrong, from BH to OC). We’ve seen cast crossovers in the past, but never in this capacity. From the moment we were re-introduced to our favorite girl from Oklahoma, she looked like she belonged in Orange County all along. She fit the show and the show fit her, so it is a shame to hear she will not be back next season. Our loss. However, let’s hope the door is not closed on potentially bringing back old faces in new territories. [How about a more permanent stay for Cynthia Bailey on RHOBH…?] BEST TREND, Part II: Guest Appearances. We’ve seen many former housewives return at party functions all the time. But a guest appearance from a former Wife is extra delicious when it actually drives story. Charrisse’s return to the Potomac fold reignited an old feud between her and Karen Huger. Denise Richards popping back in on RHOBH has caused the old, ugly nasty demeanor of Erika Jayne to resurface. And the OG of them all, Vicki Gunvalson, returned to RHOC to reunite the Tres Amigas, for better or worse, and added layers of laughter and drama during the cast trip. [Plus, who doesn’t love the side comments of Camille Grammer and the morally corrupt Faye Resnick at dinner?] WORST TREND, Part I: Producer Interference. Housewives have become improvisational soap operas. Set up the time, place, characters, and bullet point topics to discuss and GO! From endless desperate attempts to recreate dinner parties from hell, to awkward conversations that real friends would never discuss in front of other people, the “realness” of Real Housewives has been sorely lacking for nearly a decade, with no signs of reverting back to the more simple days of Kim and Nene getting dressed for a party in a parking lot, or having on-the-fly talking head shots on a city sidewalk. WORST TREND, PART II: Previews of Clips that Don’t Make It On Air. You’re flat out lying to the audience with these bait and switch promo tactics. Show it or stop it. WORST TREND, PART III: Not airing the opening themes. It is the most iconic aspect of the Housewives brand. Why keep it out of so many episodes? MOST CRINGEWORTHY MOMENT: Drew Sidora singing to Ralph at the RHOA Reunion. Drew and Ralph’s crumbling marriage was the frontburner story in the second half of the season, filled with rumors of cheating on both sides. Despite their impending divorce and whispers of Drew being with another woman, Ralph appeared at the reunion and Drew sang… directly to him… on camera… with everyone else watching. Iconic. BEST NEW CATCHPHRASE: "Name 'em!" by Sutton Stracke, RHOBH. An instant new Housewives classic meme. BEST FEUD: Heather vs. Everyone, RHOC. The gang up on Heather Dubrow was unnecessary, yet the fabulous ice queen of the OC paid them dust every single time. Heather’s life, her solid marriage, her real estate porn, etc. automatically makes her a winner against the jealous “peasant” castmates. On the finale episode, Tamra was looking to create a moment, yet Heather shot her down flawlessly. It’s a pleasant surprise to hear Heather is returning next season, because she’d be a shoo-in as the next Wife to jump to another series (RHOBH). I can’t wait to see how she handles the heifers next year. WORST FEUD: Teresa Guidice vs. Melissa Gorga, RHONJ. This has been exhausted to point that nobody’s a winner, including us viewers. Clearly, these family members hate one another. Hate. It’s no longer trainwreck TV. It’s just a cringy mess with no good outcome. I am legit surprised the entire cast is returning for 2024. Runners up: Margaret vs. Jennifer, RHONJ. Same reason. Enough is enough. BEST ALLIANCE: Garcelle and Sutton’s friendship, RHOBH. Rarely do we see a friendship where they truly have each other’s backs, even when one person is wrong, but these two are thick as thieves and will always support one another. WORST ALLIANCES: The cliques of Real Housewives of Potomac. This show is slipping into toxic territory. There is a clear line in the sand of who likes who and who wants the other one gone. Much like old-school RHONY where everyone is strategizing to ice out the outsider, this is another game where we the audience end up the losers. BEST QUEEN OF THEIR CITY: Karen Huger, RHOP. The Grande Dame knows her role of the show, which is currently to be the bridge and peacemaker amongst the fighting, petty arguments, and all out hatred. Still, in the midst of being that proverbial fence, her humor and essence brings lightness and fun to a show that has lost some of its luster. BEST QUEEN OF THE FORMER OG’s: Luann de Lesseps, RHONY. Sure, the original RHONY is likely to never return as we knew it, but we just can’t count out the Countess. Whether she’s reappearing on an Ultimate Girls Trip or being spun off to Crappie Lake, there’s always a home for Luann on Bravo in some capacity. Here’s to hoping she and Sonja get a second season of their Simple Life-like series. BEST SHOW: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Good or bad, they know who they are, and they own it… unless they’re at risk of getting booted off the show (Hi Dorit; Hi Erika). Just when we think they’re down, they come back swinging. Real drama in their lives (Hi Kyle & Mauricio!) always makes for excellent reality television, versus manufactured petty drama about something stupid like cheese. Bravo wisely cut their losses with their most toxic cast member (Rinna), got rid of some dead weight (Diana… who?), and truly lucked out when the messy Mo & Kyle separation made the headlines. MOST IMPROVED SHOW: Real Housewives of Orange County. After some truly lackluster seasons, it felt like old home week with the return of Tamra Judge in the fold, immediately causing mayhem after mayhem, revitalizing the original Housewives show that started it all. Everyone stepped their game up this season, from Heather to Shannon, to perennial underdogs Gina and Emily. We even got another new Jen (Pedranti), who has legs to last another season. MOST TOXIC SHOW: Real Housewives of New Jersey. Guidice vs. Gorga; Margaret vs. Jennifer; newbies getting ugly right off the bat… With an endless family feud that has sunken to the point of no return, it’s hard to imagine they have filmed yet another season with the current cast intact. Surely, 2024 will be its final year showcasing them all. Right? Please say yes, Bravo. MOST DISAPPOINTING SHOW: Real Housewives of Atlanta. Once upon a time, RHOA was the bread and butter of Bravo, breaking Nielsen records left and right. Nowadays, it is a shell of its former self. While we enjoy seeing familiar faces like Kandi, Kenya, and Sheree, nearly everything fell flat this year. The ensemble cast does not gel together as a cohesive group of friends, and newer faces like Drew and Sanya just aren’t enticing viewers to tune in. A major overhaul is expected and much needed. Could a much-missed blast from the past being returning to snatch her peach back…? Bloop!

RHUGT: RHONY Legacy It's like having your favorite inebriated friend come home for Christmas for another round of drunk, topless singing by the grand piano. It's so good to see them together for likely the last time. Yes, it could've been enhanced by bringing on Jill and/or Alex (I won't mention Carol or Bethenny, cuz that just wasn't gonna happen), maybe even Heather. But nonetheless, we're having a great time watching the OG's do their thing. And with that, I see Kelly Killoren Bensimon has not changed ONE BIT since we last saw her in 2011. She still puts silly labels on people ("the host" for Kristen, etc.) and then backtracks when people call her out, saying the usual, "Well, I didn't know! You didn't tell me all of that!" An exact replica of her "cook" vs. "chef" to Bethenny on Scary Island. Speaking of Bethenny, it's funny how Bravo's flashbacks are now painting Bethenny as the aggressor towards Kelly. Nuh-uh. We watched it. We saw it all go down. Also funny that Kelly brought gift bags on this trip when she literally had a meltdown after finding Bethenny's Skinnygirl-centric gift bag outside her door on Scary Island. Oh, but Kelly's bag is just travel-sized fun items that she enjoys and wants to share with the group. Okay gurl... Still a walking contradiction. Meanwhile, Luann and Sonja are hilariously ridiculous, acting like they're in heat, on the prowl for anything that passes by them with a penis. I know it's just for the show, cuz can you imagine if they were really like that, like ALL THE TIME? LOL Dorinda is still Dorinda, and still pressed anytime someone evaluates her being put "on pause." Kristen is a surprise welcome addition and I'm glad she's standing her ground. I actually think she handled the Dolly Ashley Madison interrogation just fine. Looking forward to episodes 4 through 7 And Ramona, keep staying on your best behavior... By the way, @Cat thank you for taking the reigns last year... it's that time of year again we come up with our Soap Opera Digest-like Best & Worst picks of 2023