Chris B

Originally I started watching in season 9 so the later Kelly is the first one I met lol. I've seen the first 5 seasons multiple times, but could never sit through 6 so I never finished it again. This time I plan on finishing it. BTW, something interesting I noticed on the DVD is that all the music has been changed, but the Color Me Badd episode had the original music. That gives me hope they'll keep the music in when super important, like the graduation.

Reading back this thread, I see that I've been trying to rewatch this show since 2013! I didn't rewatch then because the DVDs have new music. I eventually gave up on that and started watching a couple years back on Hulu, until I noticed them talking about Scott's death and I realized each season is missing several episodes. I recently got a Bluray player and I saw the entire series (plus the recent reboot with the OGs) for $70 on Amazon so I decided to buy it. I'm almost finished with season two and am so glad I decided to watch it again. The first season is absolutely garbage. The only thing they got right was the ensemble. Season two you can tell the show is finding it's groove. It's more serialized and while there are some self-contained clunkers, they do a lot to develop the group. I loved Mel and Jackie getting together, which helped bond David into the group and bring him closer to Donna through the connection with Kelly. I enjoyed the interlude with Brandon and Emily Valentine, although I do think that story would've been stronger had they developed Brandon's feelings for Andrea and factored her in more. She felt the most under-utilized this season, with Steve coming in second. I'm excited to reach season three, which is when I remember really falling in love with the show. And of course those later seasons which I haven't seen since they originally aired.

I imagine we will see more of this for the soaps. Even when they do come back up, the way Covid is spreading, I predict temp recasts popping up. It'll be interesting to see how they handle it this go around. I don't imagine any will stay dark long enough to stop the flow of new episodes, but we really don't know yet.

I could be wrong, but I believe Bill Bell stepped away from B&B in 1993 and he stepped away from Y&R in 1997.

For the most part, I felt like Mary did a good job of defending herself this week. I notice that there's quit a stir on twitter about her using Jennie's accent, but of course no comment about the blaccent that Jennie uses and the neck rolling whenever she talks to Mary. It's obvious what they're doing and I feel they'll likely win. There's only so many people Mary can fight against. Whitney has the nerve to say she can't have toxic friends, but her friend Sara from season one was at the Jan 6th riots. These racist republican women are just trying to push Mary out, who they never liked in the first place. Heather's anime comment was overlooked, her fetishizing Black men has always been overlooked. Their constant talking down to Mary is overlooked, but now that Mary speaks up she's dangerous, racist and scary. Hell, next week Jen, the criminal, is fighting Lisa, but they're scared of MARY?! They need to take down MARY, who has no criminal background? You can't convince me none of this is because she's Black.

I just wish I knew how he has kept GH looking as good as it does. They seem to have an endless supply of sets, even Curtis' dad (which is like a D story) got a bedroom set! And these are big sets! GH to me is the most modern looking soap and because it has so many different sets it allows for more movement. The other three soaps, even B&B now, keep shrinking what little sets they have down. For this reason alone I'd be curious to see what he'd do on the Bell soaps.

I finally made it to either Feb or March 1988 and I'm so confused about the Forrester daughters. Felicia I won't get into because she hasn't arrived and eventually got her due with Leslie Kay. Kristin, on the other hand, is a mystery to me. They've done a good job of developing the character and by now she has an interesting romance with Clarke, a fascinating relationship and backstory with Stephanie and she's designing at Forrester. How did she become such a forgotten character?! It amazes me to think Clarke had two kids, but none with the Forrester he was married to. That seems like such a missed opportunity. Then when you think of how long she was gone until Tracy Melchoir took over the role, which amounted to nothing. It's just odd. The show has had lots of Forresters throughout the years, but those two daughters really seem neglected, particularly Kristin. It's sad to think of what she became seeing how vibrant she was in these early episodes.

Yall have me excited! I definitely hope Will, Sonny and Leo are back. I wish DAYS could just steal Greg full time. Kevin is a complete dud at this point, but Leo has potential as the gay vixen as only DAYS could do. Also curious who will be playing Lani's father. I hope that is a good get and not a bust like Curtis' dad on GH.

I feel like they did a good job of casting a group that for the most part are real friends so the chemistry is there. It's clear who the outsiders are (Nicole/Larsa) because they don't seem to fit in nearly as well as the rest.

I'm kinda over Monique now that she's an anti-vaxxer telling people to eat lemon and rub essential oils on their body to beat covid. With that said, good for her and Carlos King. I still say that Bravo is insane for not signing that man to a deal to produce shows for them. Love and Marriage: Huntsville is always trending and is very popular. That is a show that should've been on Bravo. RHOM It's amazing that the show has been so interesting and it took until episode 4 for us to have our first fight amongst wives. I don't know why this is so good, but these producers really know what they're doing. I know they also produce Married To Medicine, which is also consistent. I don't know why Bravo doesn't have them do more shows. If Dallas returns, this company definitely needs to be in charge. What I liked about the Guerdy and Adriana thing is that this is a light, petty housewives feud. These shows tend to get very dark and personal, but this I can get behind. Both were right and both were wrong which is more fun for me as a viewer. The part that REALLY intrigued me was how Martina kept siding with Guerdy, who she barely knows and how upset she seemed about the foot massage. Yes Guerdy was messy bringing it up, but you could tell Martina was PISSED. I know it's just a show, but Julia seems like she's really into Adriana. Now if Adriana is really into her I'm not sure, but Julia DEFINITELY wants that cat. This storyline is my favorite and what I want to see more of. I am so curious where this is going to end up. Larsa continues to confuse me, but I did enjoy her scene with her daughter. Nicole, on the other hand, is completely losing me. I feel like she could've been a friend. I'm not seeing how she fits in overall. Kiki is adorable and so beautiful. She's the perfect friend. She shows up looking gorgeous, says a little bit here and there and lets the women do most of the work. I really like her pop ups.

I loved The Colbys, but I do agree they had too many kids, Bliss should've been eliminated entirely. I also feel like they messed up when casting Frankie. Katherine Ross was dreadful in the role and it didn't help that the character was *so* unlikable. They wanted to push Sable as the unreasonable/Alexis type, but the story just didn't match up at all. I wonder how it would've played had they gotten a good actress to play Frankie and maybe give her more layers. It might've pushed the writers to make them both grey characters which could've been fun.

B&B is mostly good now, but there are little things Brad does so bad. The actress who plays Paris is good. Why is it so hard to find a love interest for her? Dino and RJ exist. They could've continued exploring the thing with Thomas. They could bring her parents on to give her something to do. Jumping from Zende to Finn to Thomas to Carter makes no sense. Speaking of Carter, you had a popular pairing with Quinn and he also has chemistry with Katie, so the solution is to pair him with Paris?! It honestly feels racist because you know the only reason they did it is because they're both Black.

I feel like the husband is a scam artist, but Noella aint too far behind. The difference between the two is that she's a better actress and knows how to frame a story. It's odd he's supposed to be such a successful lawyer, but is such a bad liar.

Sal is also on recurring and she doesn’t have a side gig so this worries me!

That’s so odd to me. Matt and Bridget were on the show for a long time to never have their dad even visit. I wonder why the show lost interest in this family.

I’m glad I stuck with these 1989 uploads because now in the April episodes I’m hooked! I’m starting to see some of my favorite characters: Billy, Vanessa, Blake (albeit a Blake I don’t know), Ross, Holly. I also loved Beverly McKinsey from AW/Texas so it’s nice to see her in her other signature role. It’s interesting seeing Kassie DePaiva on GL. She fits in well, but this Reardon family confuses me when I look it up because it’s so big. So Chelsea is sisters to Nola and Maureen? Of course I see her interacting with Maureen, but did Chelsea ever interact with Nola? I get she was on OLTL, but it seems like a missed opportunity to never bring her back, especially once Maureen died. I have two questions about this family: 1. Did anybody return for Maureen’s funeral from the Reardon family? 2. How does Bridget tie into this family? Physically she always reminded me of Nola, but I am pretty sure they aren’t mother and daughter. ETA: She popped up in the episode that just started and I have to say: I DO NOT LIKE HARLEY! I never liked her in the later years and I feel the same in 1989. She’s more likable than she became, but the Cooper family was so grating in those later years that it’s going to take a lot of patience for me to enjoy them.

She refuted his story on her instagram and I tend to believe her more than I do him. His videos were odd and had holes in them. He mentions she's leaving him for the show, BUT her leaving him hurts her future on the show. She now can't film with her son and doesn't have a husband. On OC that is a death sentence. Plus he fails to mention the surprise announcement that he owes $4 million in taxes and that that is why she consulted a lawyer. It is obvious he ran, likely to hide from creditors. He also didn't add a compelling argument for why he hasn't seen his son. I actually was side eyeing some of what she was saying, but his shady videos made me move more to her side of things.

This was a nightmare! I'm glad he let her speak, but you could tell it was because it was completely uninterested and didn't know what he's talking about. He kept digging about how she got with her husband, when any Real Housewives fan knows she got with him while they were both married to other people. It was so awkward that he couldn't catch the hint and move on. Then when he mentioned Ashley's previous love interests, he seemed to miss most of her actual love interests and even asked her about Michael Tylo who was Brenda Epperson's love interest. I wish when doing interviews with people from shows he doesn't know he'd ask fans for questions.

MS and JPS have remained close since she left GH. I didn't know about Finola, but it makes sense between GH and Pacific Palisades that she's known MS for years.

The best way I can describe Miami is to say, if you like Melbourne, you’ll love Miami. It has the same elevated production values and the openness of their early seasons. These women are *so* open about their lives and leave nothing on the table. They also have incredible chemistry as a group which is hard to do with a reboot of half new/half old. Even a weak link like Larsa works because of her history with the group and overall ridiculousness. I also like that there isn’t a clear villain. Even with three episodes you can see everybody taking turns being messy. It just feels like a natural friend group. @CatI agree with you about Jen, but I do feel bad for her for some reason. To me she seems completely delusional to what she’s facing. I tend to agree with Mary, I wish her family well, but you can’t convince me the feds just made this up. She seems to be taking this too lightly when you consider how bad this is going to be for her. I’m waiting for her to pivot and take it seriously but that isn’t happening. I truly can’t understand it. This is NOT a joke. Even with the best lawyers, the feds are formidable.

I thought yesterdays episode was very well done. I know she’d never get noticed by them, but Kimberlin is giving very strong, nuanced performances as Sheila. She had me fully buying everything she said yesterday and by the time we reached the FaceTime call I thought it was so touching.

You will LOVE it. It is housewives, but elevated. These women are really delivering. They aren't hiding anything from the cameras and the actual content of these episodes is really surprising. Okay, I'm glad you said this. I have held off discussing SLC because I been fighting for my life across the internet defending Sister Mary Martha! I get that she's a mess and a bit of a Ramona, but just like I don't believe Ramona is racist, I don't think Mary is either. She's made a couple of ignorant statements, but I didn't feel like she was being mean spirited in saying them. I hope she can clean up the Jennie stuff, because I hate she slipped and gave Jennie a reason to justify her hate of Mary. Jennie has been dying to have a problem with Mary who did nothing to her. Yelling at Mary to "shut the F up" then playing the victim because she responded left a bad taste in my mouth. The posting that picture with the Black baby before that episode aired was suspect. If you wanna talk about racist on this show you have to look further than Mary. I find it telling that Heather also slipped up with her anime comment, but the mostly white fanbase only focused on Mary. Then you have Whitney acting like she's scared Mary and her husband are literally going to have her and her family killed for speaking out against them. THAT IS RACIST! Mary does not have a criminal record, does not curse and hasn't presented herself in a way that she would physically harm anybody. Then on the most recent After Show, Heather was co-signing the "Mary is violent and I'm afraid of her" narrative. Because Mary is eccentric they're allowed to do this and they don't get called out for it. Jen has gotten physical with Heather and in the midseason trailer we see her fighting Lisa, but they put that label on MARY, not her. Then if you go back to season one you'd see why Mary has such a bad relationship with the group. Mary came in kind to everybody, but when she had her issue with Jen, everybody kept quiet because they were afraid of Jen. They knew Mary was right, but nobody wanted to get to know her and defend her because of Jen. They only started to come around to Mary after Jen had pissed them all off. The only one who has tried to develop a real friendship with Mary is Meredith. Heather and Whitney were nice to Mary, yes, but they'd go in their confessionals and scenes together laughing at her like she was a joke. Yall think Mary didn't see that? I feel like now people are mad because Mary is so good at reading these girls like a scripture, but I wish they'd take the time to look and see HOW it got to this point. Mary doesn't bother them unless they come for her. When she does her interviews she doesn't even mention the other girls, except Meredith. They've wanted to get rid of her and I'm afraid I feel it'll most likely work after this season.

After watching episode 3, I'm glad Peacock changed the plan of dropping the first 3 episodes at once. These episodes are JAM PACKED because these women are intent on delivering and I think this episode deserved to breathe on it's own. Alexia continues to amaze me. Her life before this show, during the first three season and now is just insane. You could make several movies about her life! Before the season premiered people were upset that the trailer showed Adriana mentioning that Herman was gay and I never could've imagined she would've been so open about all of this. On most shows I can't see the HW being this honest, especially the bit about her father. I'm glad she isn't allowing herself to be shamed and is holding her head up high. I also continue to love whenever we get to see Frankie. I'm so happy be survived his accident and is doing well. The other lead HW seems to be Julia or Adriana depending on how you look at it. Their chemistry is STRONG and you can tell Julia is more interested than she wants to admit. Her jealousy at the art show was insane and her doubling down in her confessionals like her wife won't see this?! Girl, thank you for being so messy! I can't wait for this to blow up in her face. Poor Larsa I try to like her, but she seems so dumb and she has no personality. To quote Nene, "Nothing was there." I wouldn't know how to describe her, she is just her looks. She never has anything interesting to say, she doesn't have an interesting relationship with any of the girls. She is simply there. If the show continues for a season 5 they need to go ahead and cut their losses. They got whatever buzz they're gonna get off her so call it a day.

Storm’s suicide is a good one! If prime time counts, you can’t go wrong with Val getting her babies back on Knots Landing.

Thank you for that info! I’m going to keep going then. I’m at Harley/Alan-Michael’s wedding now and thus far it hasn’t really been drawing me in. I think it could be that the episodes start at the climax of this story with Michelle Forbes, so I’m a bit lost. I’m going to keep going and see how I feel.