13 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

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-- I thought Dani's conversation with Nicole about Carlton and sex was cringe. Her level of excitement about Nicole having sex was so high school.

Lol! Seriously? That's her sister who just got a divorce.

There are people who can speak explicitly with their friends with no issue.

Edited 12 hours ago12 hr by MontyB

1 minute ago, MontyB said:

Lol! Seriously? That's her sister who just a divorce.

There are people who can speak explicitly with their friends with no issue.

I didn't find it too explicit. That's not why I didn't like the scene. I realize it's probably an unpopular opinion on this board. If others liked it, that's great.

29 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

-- Still #TeamKat. Eva-as-victim doesn't work for me.

-- I'm happy with the Shanice story upgrade, but WAY too much Tomas on this show. I really don't understand what BTG sees in him.

-- I thought Dani's conversation with Nicole about Carlton and sex was cringe. Her level of excitement about Nicole having sex was so high school.

-- I continue to be unhappy with Dani practically begging Bill to notice her while she forgets about how he wrecked their marriage. And Bill's explanation for why he lost interest in Dani during their marriage? Awful.

-- Seeing Nicole at Uptown dressed as a two-bit trashy hooker? Really? This doesn't work for me. She has sex with Carlton and now decides she needs to meet men in bars dressed in an outfit that looks like Hayley chose for her?

-- Please don't make Vanessa or Kial or anyone else a customer of Vanessa the whore's escort business.

-- Ted's a plastic surgeon, right? That must be why they called him when Anita passed out.

Amen. Amen. Amen. Especially about AA - he just... needs to go. And what do they see in him you wonder... - I don't know... PITY maybe. Maybe he's just a good guy in real life and they don't want to fire him. But he CAN'T act and is a bad look for any of the other wonderful actors to be around. This is not a school for amateur actors... models, whatever. It's a show on CBS with major talent in it... Don't bring the entire quality down by employing people like this. Sorry if this sounds brutal. It's just my honest feeling.

Also... huge agree with the comment about Dani. But I'm not surprised. Dani is a narcissist who will destroy her own life again and again repeating the same mistakes. It works for a soap... but in real life these kinds of people end very badly.

1 hour ago, CrazySexyQ said:

100%. But I don't think the writers remember this.

Hahahah, I hope they do! 😁

1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

-- Still #TeamKat. Eva-as-victim doesn't work for me.

-- I'm happy with the Shanice story upgrade, but WAY too much Tomas on this show. I really don't understand what BTG sees in him.

-- I thought Dani's conversation with Nicole about Carlton and sex was cringe. Her level of excitement about Nicole having sex was so high school.

-- I continue to be unhappy with Dani practically begging Bill to notice her while she forgets about how he wrecked their marriage. And Bill's explanation for why he lost interest in Dani during their marriage? Awful.

-- Seeing Nicole at Uptown dressed as a two-bit trashy hooker? Really? This doesn't work for me. She has sex with Carlton and now decides she needs to meet men in bars dressed in an outfit that looks like Hayley chose for her?

Dani is emotionally immature, insecure, and values surface over substance. She's also displayed an addictive personality which we've seen with her in regards to alcohol, sex, and Bill.

The way she shaded Shanice made me really dislike her because she'll never been a quarter of the person that Shanice is. Shanice is strong minded, empathetic, and has people skills.

Nicole is trying out a different persona now that she's newly divorced.. hopefully she'll regain her senses once Carleton is revealed for the creep that he probably is.

Unrelated, but can the writers give Vernon back his balls? It's hella cringe how he makes his whole life about Anita when she doesn't do the same for him, imho.

He worked much better when she was off the canvas as a character.

1 minute ago, Soaplovers said:

Dani is emotionally immature, insecure, and values surface over substance. She's also displayed an addictive personality which we've seen with her in regards to alcohol, sex, and Bill.

The way she shaded Shanice made me really dislike her because she'll never been a quarter of the person that Shanice is. Shanice is strong minded, empathetic, and has people skills.

Great analysis.

When are we going to see Banneker (is it designated as a College or University?) This show barely shows what people do for a living. We have a whole host of characters that are connected with Banneker-- Vernon (who is a prof./lecturer there), the McBride twins and now Izaiah Hawthorne. It would give more dimension to Vernon and Izaiah especially, if we actually got to see them in action at Banneker. Even having Vernon preparing his lectures in an office at Banneker. Seeing Izaiah counsel a dayplayer or under-5 student in Student Support services would give them lives outside of Anita and Eva. We could even see the other twin Deanna, who we only hear about yet never see. Perhaps, Deanna uses the Student Support Services and is in frequent contact with Izaiah, forms a crush or an unhealthy attachment to Izaiah, which Eva eventually picks up on because Izaiah gives a lot of time and attention to a student he sees as being in need. It could cause some tension in the relationship, as Izaiah comes to think that Eva doesn't fully understand the importance of his job. Gives us something!

Just now, DramatistDreamer said:

When are we going to see Banneker (is it designated as a College or University?) This show barely shows what people do for a living. We have a whole host of characters that are connected with Banneker-- Vernon (who is a prof./lecturer there), the McBride twins and now Izaiah Hawthorne. It would give more dimension to Vernon and Izaiah especially, if we actually got to see them in action at Banneker. Even having Vernon preparing his lectures in an office at Banneker. Seeing Izaiah counsel a dayplayer or under-5 student in Student Support services would give them lives outside of Anita and Eva. We could even see the other twin Deanna, who we only hear about yet never see. Perhaps, Deanna uses the Student Support Services and is in frequent contact with Izaiah, forms a crush or an unhealthy attachment to Izaiah, which Eva eventually picks up on because Izaiah gives a lot of time and attention to a student he sees as being in need. It could cause some tension in the relationship, as Izaiah comes to think that Eva doesn't fully understand the importance of his job. Gives us something!

Yes they are ignoring workplace drama/interactions which can add character depth and plot complications.