I think they just don’t have a place on this show for an Asian leading man, even if they slightly DESORAS him. JG is too entranced by Adam/Billy/Nick, who are all tired.

Just now, Faulkner said:

I think they just don’t have a place on this show for an Asian leading man, even if they slightly DESORAS him. JG is too entranced by Adam/Billy/Nick, who are all tired.

Billy and Nick who do nothing. Not complaining considering JM stinks in the role.

36 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Billy and Nick who do nothing. Not complaining considering JM stinks in the role.

Exactly. Nick does nothing and hasn’t had a successful pairing in years yet isn’t disposable. Ditto Billy, who is an albatross who’s been relegated to podcasting as a story, yet isn’t disposable. Adam was “dead” and is playing the same old stories, yet isn’t disposable. They are thirsting to get back Michael Mealor as Kyle. They let Noah mope around the canvas for a year with no love interest (except creeping on a lesbian) and yet he’s not disposable.

They say they want to have a “new beginning” and rebuild the Abbotts (sans Ashley and Traci full time). You’re telling me Jack’s oldest son has no value to the show alive, when he could easily be paired with Sharon, Chelsea, Victoria (post-Ashland), even as a spoiler for Amanda/Devon, the list goes on?

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There is a way that Keemo would have added even more complexity if Allie was torn between loyalty to her father and wanting to build a relationship with Jack. There was no need to kill Keemo, who didn't even need to be onscreen to present a conflict.

Also, WTH does putting Nate in a suit have to do with the building of three corporate centers. Does Josh even know that Nate is a Hastings? 

I guess he chooses to conveniently forget that there was ever a Barber family. SMH 

4 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

There is a way that Keemo would have added even more complexity if Allie was torn between loyalty to her father and wanting to build a relationship with Jack. There was no need to kill Keemo, who didn't even need to be onscreen to present a conflict.

Also, WTH does putting Nate in a suit have to do with the building of three corporate centers. Does Josh even know that Nate is a Hastings? 

That could've been the story with Allie being torn with the father she loves and the grandfather and family she wants to get to know. I was hoping they were going to have Allie become a schemer, but I know that was asking for too much. Keemo didn't have to die for this happen at all. 

Nate should still be a doctor like his mother. That would be like Olivia going to work for Newman as an executive. Makes no sense! We saw for years Olivia in her office at the hospital. 

I wish they would actually get back into actual corporate stories again with Jabot vs. Newman or what if Hamilton-Winters decided to do a natural black hair care line and Jabot decides to rival them a nod to Tuvia vs. Safra back in the day. But nope we get PowerPoint Presentations and buzz words instead. 

7 minutes ago, Forever8 said:

That could've been the story with Allie being torn with the father she loves and the grandfather and family she wants to get to know. I was hoping they were going to have Allie become a schemer, but I know that was asking for too much. Keemo didn't have to die for this happen at all. 

The thought of Allie's motives in wanting to get closer to the Abbott family, namely Jack, being suspicious was the first thing I thought of when I read about this character. I can't believe they are not writing it this way! Those are some of the most interesting kinds of characters on soaps, especially a Bell soap, which this soap seems to barely resemble anymore.

It would give Allie some agency as a character, if viewers weren't quite sure of her motives, at least at first. Give her an air of mystery. 

And I think it would have been so much better to keep Keemo just within close range. 

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These shows are so timid that there’s no way that the Asian outsider to the Abbott family would have been a schemer. Although it would have been more interesting if Diane had manipulated her more beforehand. Allie certainly could have been more of a grey character. Right now, it seems like they’re going in the direction of bland do-gooder.

BTW between DAYS and Y&R is Allie the new ubiquitous name for ingenues?

Is Allie the new Beth?

3 hours ago, Khan said:

Agree.  There were definitely ways to bring back Keemo, reunite him with the rest of Abbotts AND still keep spinning suspenseful story from that.

And will somebody please tell those idiots that Kay was not a businesswoman?

Now, Jill living alone at the Chancellor Mansion, drunk off her ass 24/7 and screwing every stable boy in sight - THAT would be the legacy that Miss Chancellor would want to leave behind, lol.

Alden laid the groundwork for that. She had Jill drinking a lot and right when Jill dumped Sean she had this great scene where Jill says she doesn't want to be some old woman whose trying to be with a man she can't keep, then reaches for a decanter, withdraws her hands, looks in that gilded mirror in the Chancellor living room, and cries.

It was only after LML that this bizarre 'St. Katherine of the Boardroom' character emerged and Katherine was now depicted as some savvy businesswoman when she was really a bored, vengeful socialite. 

2 hours ago, Aback said:

He's delusional.

 

2 hours ago, Forever8 said:

And from all of that Josh still has a job! 

It's very bizarre writing. You won't convince me that Natalie Minardi Slater or Janice Ferri Esser wouldn't like to take a crack as HW. 

28 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

These shows are so timid that there’s no way that the Asian outsider to the Abbott family would have been a schemer. Although it would have been more interesting if Diane had manipulated her more beforehand. Allie certainly could have been more of a grey character. Right now, it seems like they’re going in the direction of bland do-gooder.

Lola 2.0 is not needed.  Allie needs to at least be ambitious. Have her bond with Ashley in the lab and strive to create new products; bond with Traci over loss.  She doesn't have to be a troublemaker, but let her POV be heard. It's not hard (for most) to write a character being multi-dimensional.

 

As for Noah, I still say his best story could be sexually and drug addicted as a rich kid just going drinking/clubbing. Waking up in complicated situations with people of both sexes-- trying to maintain his "good guy " image with his family.

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Diane is back for a couple of months (at least at the time this interview took place that's the plan).

I am confused about this. You are not saying she is only staying a couple of months, right?
It is just that by the time he gave the interview they had already filmed two months worth of her return?

5 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

I am confused about this. You are not saying she is only staying a couple of months, right?
It is just that by the time he gave the interview they had already filmed two months worth of her return?

He said whenever this interview took place that Dianes return was a couple of months. Idk if it got extended or wherever.

There's literally no way in hell that Diane abandoned a son that she wanted so desperately.

1 hour ago, slick jones said:

Allie needs to at least be ambitious. Have her bond with Ashley in the lab and strive to create new products

Allie told Jack that she is busy studying, working on getting her master's degree in chemical engineering.  Jack tells her Keemo worked in the lab with Ashley. Allie replies she had no idea and "I'm not going to hit you up for a job when I graduate". She seems sincerely surprised.

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I think making the first younger Asian-American female lead this show has ever had(?) a schemer against the whites would be a bad look. She should be given the same heroine push as her white peers. But yes, Keemo should turn up alive. And other siblings.