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  1. Looking back, there were other issues with Laura's story that would be offensive by today's standards. After the rape, she wrote a letter to Luke expressing her longing for him. Scotty found the letter, slut shamed Laura, and threatened to leave town. When Luke and Laura returned from their summer adventure, Lee Baldwin confronted Laura about the letter and also tried to make her feel guilty and ashamed. None of the Baldwins ever considered Laura's lack of compliance with the initial contact with Luke, including Gail, a psychologist who should have known better. Hopefully, by today's standards, the plot would include references to Laura's complicated relationship with Lesley's lovers from the rejection of Cameron Foster to the illicit affair with David Hamilton.
  2. I went and read the French Santa Barbara site and it clarified that Kelly was raped, but Eden who had also been kidnapped by Peter was not raped ( sorry for the confusion) I still think Kelly was doing something to drive those other guys out of town never to be mentioned again....
  3. I beg to differ because she was "saved" prior to being raped and she was very specific about saying that in later scenes with Marcello.
  4. This may be a dumb question, but I wonder how the hiatus saves money? Actors are contracted for a certain number of episodes whether they are filmed in a day or a month. We've read that they've all taken pay cuts, but 3 episodes a week are still 3 paid episodes regardless of how speedily they are filmed. Below the line staffers are union employees who get a certain yearly salary regardless of how limited the production timeline becomes. Writers and producers are also paid an annual fee regardless of how they film. So, unless the utility bills for water and power for the months when they go dark saves Sony millions of dollars a year, I don't know why it is more efficient? One would hazzard that the loss of directors and production staff who want to work 12 months a year would actually be less efficient.
  5. I think we can add Kelly Capwell to the list of women who were never sexually assaulted in Santa Barbara. She was kidnapped quite often, but never raped. Of course, given my Kelly-was-a-secret-serial-killer theory - i.e. most of the men she was coupled with (Nick, Pearl, Ric Castillo, Craig Hunt, and Justin Moore) "disappeared" from SB without a goodbye scene, she may have been more of a menace than a victim.
  6. I would proffer that the Dash/Julia/Augusta story was even more offensive that Eden's rape. Not that there should be a competition, but the Dash stuff is particularly tone deaf in retrospect.
  7. Clarice and Larry are such an odd case because at one time they each had an entire family built around their characters. Clarice had a couple of brothers, who both dated Sally, and Larry had Catlin, who also dated Sally. In addition, Clarice's son was the heir to Delaney Brands of Somerset, so there was lots of potential for both characters.
  8. My somewhat uninformed take on the DAYS taping schedule is two-fold. On the one hand I reject the theory that taping in advance does not allow for audience response to guide the storylines. Fans tend to want to have more influence than what is realistic and the theory assumes that nobody in production can see chemistry (or lack thereof) between actors. On the other hand, it seems as if stories are being written to the production schedule in terms of being able to do multiple scenes between limited cast members in a limited number of sets. Often one group of characters will have a week worth of scenes in one set without ever running into people from other storylines, because they were filmed on a seperate schedule. As a result, DAYS often seems as if the characters are living on separate islands and one set of characters never seems to react to the action in another part of town.
  9. It was fun @Franko One of the details that I remember was that Long's fiance gave her exit interview. Pam was never quoted in the article, but her husband-to-be gave some details. Including that she tried to bring back Reva in December of that year, when she died over the prior summer, but it was nixed by production not Zimmer. Also, the talk in SOD at the time was that Rick Bauer was going to be re-cast, so there was a lot of turmoil behind the scenes
  10. My objection to Todd is his placement within the Lord family dynasty. Although Victor never had as many long-lost-children crawl out of the woodwork as Stephano Dimera, Tony and Todd seemed unnecessary additions to the family tree, when the story of Tina's paternity was the focus of the show for years. Not only did we get the inexplicable inheritance that one only gets on soaps when an illegitimate child, not named in the father's will, is suddenly given riches, but also Victoria's allegiance to Todd never held water. Viki was kind to Tony, but never defended him like she did Todd. Not to mention that Irene seemed to have had Tina and Todd when she was rather young, but her best friend Viki never knew that she was pregnant (perhaps Viki was in Eterna at the time?). It all reportedly stemmed from the coincidence that the character was given the last name Manning. However, the writer at the time never planned for the backstory so it was all rather convoluted. Somehow, he had to have a father with the last name Manning, but still be related to Irene, which was just dumb.
  11. If any of you read @franko and I recaps of the 1990-1991 SOD breaking news thread, there was a ton of press prior to Matt Weiss's casting (including a story about mothers from the Upper Westside trying to get their sons cast), and then poof he was gone. The guy who played Matt Weiss was Jeff Gendelman, who had been on Loving. If I remember correctly, CBS nixed the storyline with Matt and he was quickly written out. I believe the story goes is that CBS' interference is what we led Pam Long to leave as head writer.
  12. Butch Hartman who was Sean Masters on Generations later created the Fairly Oddparents on Nickelodeon There was an SOD story at the time of his hire that noted he always carried a sketchpad and he married the Jeopardy audience coordinator after appearing on the show
  13. LOL - I thought the same thing because the writers seemed to have done no research for the heart transplant, especially when Katie kept having cardiac issues after being transplanted with a healthy heart rather than issues regarding organ rejection. So, I looked it up and it is more common to have a heart transplant followed by a kidney transplant than one would think. However, I doubt we'll ever see Katie have dialysis, just as she never seems to have been burdened by anti-rejection drugs for the past few years. Combined Heart and Kidney Transplantation: Clinical Experience in 100 Consecutive Patients Morcos Atef Awad, et all - Originally published11 Feb 2019https://doi.org/10.1161/JAHA.118.010570Journal of the American Heart Association. 2019;8:e010570 And to be fair her sister Donna had a full transplant and she seems to be thriving.
  14. Didn't Paul Hornsby 2.0 give an expository update on Jenny when he returned a few years ago? I recall his daughter died of an OD, but I don't recall what happened to Jenny.
  15. SOD was bi-monthly (published every two weeks) until the early 1990's, after the establishment of Soap Opera Weekly, the sister publication. For a time, the two publications distinguished themselves by having SOD summarize the weekly plotlines and SOW covered behind the scenes news and critiques. The SOD summaries were about a month behind what was shown on air also until the early 1990's. This was common at the time, when monthly daytime magazines were often two to three months behind what was currently airing. Given the technology of the era, writers were actually watching the shows and publishing full summaries. There was a specificity to the writing that is missing today. Some writers would include what people wore or even lines of dialogue. As opposed to current SOD which relies on summaries provided by the various daytime productions. The writing in the pre-VCR years meant that one could keep up with soap plots without ever watching the shows. I recall being fully versed in ATWT, even though I never watched an episode for years. The one exception was the Ryan's Hope finale, SOD wrote a longer synopsis of the final month, so that they would not keep covering stories that were no longer airing. Once SOD "caught up" with the weekly aired show, the covers would emphasize that they were now covering the prior week's shows.
  16. Don't forget Cousin Joey Mancini (aka the lost Eckert). He was in the first scene of Tony Geary's return episode, flirting with Amy at the nurses station, while Bill was laid up in a hospital bed (hurt by the Mac's eco group's bombing of the Q ship) and Bobbie was shocked by his similarity to Luke (even though Bill was blond and not permed). Cousin Joey appeared for a couple of weeks and then disappeared into the mist of the Port Charles just like Laura (not literally, but nobody ever mentioned him again). It was a crazy transition because weeks prior Bobbie was involved in a very heavy baby selling scam story, and crying daily over the loss of her marriage to Tony and her baby. She was even suspended from the hospital due to her involvement in the illegal adoption. The villain who set up Lucas's adoption was also poisoning the water supply at the apartment where some of the nurses lived. And there was a possibility that Scorpio, not the presumed-dead Julien, was Lucas's father. Meanwhile, Edge Jerome (the Cousin Joey of the mobsters) was flirting with Anna. Then, a month later, Bobbie was suddenly back at GH and had to play wacky in the scenes with Ruby while they spewed exposition about how their cousins lived in Port Charles but they never spoke to them. The nurse's water was fine and Scorpio was told by Cheryl that he was not Lucas's father. Anna started tying up Robert in order to seduce him and Edge pivoted to Dawn before both were quickly killed off. Then, Papa Eckert died, Mama Eckert moved out west (never returning for Jenny's wedding or Bill's funeral), Bill became wealthy by surprise and his ex-wife returned creating the Eckerts 2.0. I think the best remnant from that period was Bill and Sly's lighthouse set which Kevin moved into after Bill's untimely death.
  17. Lachlan Buchanan has a very VPL
  18. As much as I like a blond IRL, they tend to be synonymous with blandness when it comes to soaps. Ryan's Hope - Chaz Seybrooke - perfect soap opera name, but kind of a nothing character, he was the rebound guy for Ryan after Rick left her (I can never remember if it was the actor or Rick who went to RADA), he was involved in a minor insider trading story that was much too simple to be intriguing Bold and Beautiful - Thorne Forrester - it is hard to be that dull with a fascinating mother, but he pulled it off, a character so boring that his job is literally in the basement All My Children - Greg Nelson - his big love story with Jenny is mostly remembered for her time away from him in New York, he was strictly an object of desire with no substance - special mention to Dr. Cliff Warner, the slightly older version of the same character, a guy who we are told women long for, but we never found out why Loving -Jack Forbes, not actually blond, but you know a guy is bland when he was the center of the drama for the first year and then he disappeared and nobody noticed for a long time Santa Barbara - Brick Wallace, also not blond, but a character name was never as prophetic. Here's a guy who was the son of Sophia and Lionel, (arguably two of the most intriguing, sophisticated, and smartest characters in town ) and he was a complete bore. He also grew up in the circus, and yet it did nothing to make him more likable or interesting. His background is strikingly similar to Dinah on GL (raised by carnies, abandoned child of two intellectual characters), and yet somehow their paths were very different.
  19. As I recall from one of the podcast interviews with the actress, her real-life pregnancy and resulting child with special needs were impetuous for her character's departure, which was sad to hear and made me give AW a pass on their exit, but not on the prior errors in establishing the character.
  20. Regarding the shoulda/woulda/coulda of 1985-1987, I think it is important to add that the plot ascendance of The Loves also the end of an era at the Cory Mansion. Sandy left with mis-recast Blaine while he investigating Carl during his post-escort stint as a journalist. Jamey had left town with his tail between his knees after his drug addiction. In retrospect, some would say these moves were to set up Nancy was the sole ingenue in the Cory family. However, I think Neil and Adam Cory were clumsily introduced, and then discarded, due to shifts in the writing of the Cory storyline which diminished Sandy and Jamey, who rightly should have helped Nancy fight Carl. In addition, Sharon Gabet as Brittney is the real loser of this period. While being a deaf-mute with a dead baby and a passion for horses was a hyperbolic contrast to Sally, the character was never built to sustain. It was a soap so the audience was immediately waiting for Britney's cure. Then, once she could speak, fans were assured in the soap press that she would be different from Raven. There were many options. Raven was a contrast of self-assurance with very low self-worth, as a result, she made many poor decisions based on her survival instinct without regarding the welfare of those around her. Britney could have been self-assured in another way either due to her prowess with animals or working with men on the ranch for so long. In contrast to Sally who was always needing to be rescued, Britney could have been a good rival. Instead, once Britney could speak, she became all of the worst parts of Raven and never had her own routing value. Much like Blaine or Rachel, Britney needed a "talk-to" to make her more sympathetic to the audience. Her motives for marrying Peter were so ill-explained that I recall being unable to tell if she was conning him or being conned. It seemed like a classic example of a soap hiring an actress expecting them to be the character rather than writing for them.
  21. Can you imagine the amount of exposition it would take to re-introduce Pam? "Oh look there's my half-sister Pam who worked on a steamboat casino with my rarely-discussed father who was paid to testify against me by Steve Frame in my custody battle over Jamey. Not to be confused with Pamela, Steve's wife from his time away from Bay City with whom he had Dianna, who ran off with a stable boy."
  22. Donna Love's age was always odd because if you do the math she had the twins when she was 16, and they were turning 18 when introduced, which means she was only 34 when returned to Bay City. However, they always made her a contemporary of Rachel and Felicia who were easily ten years older. I mention it because the excellent idea of getting Pat to marry into another family would have interesting if Pat went for Reginald Love or Spencer Harrison (RIP the actor today). She liked vaguely European men and she liked an older man, so either guy would have fit the bill. I would be excited for Pat to have a power base to avenge her loss of Brava and set a new magazine for a rival of Mac's.
  23. While I get the critique in retrospect, (hell it probably could have been predicted from the date of the article's publication), I was thinking that Donna Love would probably not be as beloved if this period had not existed. During the Sally/Catlin years, Donna was a harpy who seemed older than her years and her character was mostly a spanner who kept other couples from getting together. However, the post-Catlin story helped flesh out the character and made her more of a sympathetic diva. Also, I hereby reject reactions the suggest that a certain writer or producer "killed off" a legacy family. The Matthews are a perfect example. While it is true that new family members could have revived them, by the late 80s there were too few Matthews around Bay City to make a character out of the family as a whole. They stopped having a home base set, Liz was mostly seen at work, and once Sally died there was not a future generation in town to carry on the legacy (as much as I liked Michael and Maryanne, they were stuck in the 70s and never procreated). For as much as I liked Pat, I never wished for more character details from her brother Russ. They were a family that was almost defined by their good nature and that is a ubiquitous characteristic that could be found in many other characters. Lastly, the "Chris Whitesell as boy wonder" PR continues to fascinate me. His resume before AW was tenuous at best. The short term SFT stint was never fully explained and therefore why NBC kept placing him in high-level jobs was a mystery. The comparisons to current producers also are interesting because he was clearly a fan of the genre and wanted to center his career around soaps despite the fact that they were dying off at the time.
  24. The longevity of a character like Larry Ewing is remarkable. He was the lone survivor of both the Hobson and Ewing families. I think he existed at the police station beyond the last appearance of his wife Clarice. He was a voice of reason for Clarice, Blaine, and Caitlin, but outlasted them all. I wonder the ratio of the ubiquitous nature of the character that allowed him to be in multiple storylines versus the likability of the actor that is the cause of such a long life for a fairly underdeveloped guy.
  25. Here's the thing, it was definitely a choice to keep the mustache and haircut for over 20 years because the accent was fictional but the look was deliberately creepy. I'd love to see who Christine Baranski is dating now to see if she has a type - maybe Larry the cable guy?
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