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  1. Did Cheryl Stansbury know that her sister's real name was Elsie Mae Crumholz?
  2. Whoever was the writer to give Holden a brain injury was a good problem solver. The plot matched the characterization and explained his sodden presence. As I vaguely recall, the scenes with Lucinda that caused Holden's miraculous recovery in a cellar were captivating, but mostly due to the skills of Elizabeth Hubbard. Catty quotation for the week: it didn't help that he didn't age well...
  3. What if Amanda is the person in Europe that keeps messing up Fallon's IPO? My new theory is that Liam is reported dead, Fallon goes to Europe to meet Amanda, she falls for her husband Miles. Fallon and Miles begin an affair, then in the season finale, Liam returns!
  4. Given that ratings seem to show that nobody is watching this season, it seems fortunate that they're already renewed for season five. I wonder if it will run during the summer again or restart in late fall? I continue to be endlessly amused by Dominique's full body shimmy every time she speaks. The cover of diver's license was fun. Anders and Alexis commiserating over the kids they abandoned as teens was ironically fun. I still don't understand Blake's wealth - he could afford to buy back the manor, but can't seem to start his own business?
  5. Skeeter Mckee? Was this GH in the 90s or Our Gang with Spanky and Alfalfa during the Depression era?
  6. With all due respect, I would also offer a hubbard squash to anyone who can find a retired cabaret singing, doctor's wife, and great grandmother in the outer suburbs of Chicago (close to the farmland) who was that chic. Even with this obvious misstep To be clear, I don't doubt that women in the midwest can dress well. I was merely remarking on the universal styling abilities of the characters seemed to reflect an urbane New York sensibility rather than the suburban setting of Oakdale (even with its rather active nightlife).
  7. Cleveland Amory was famous for hating everything on TV, except cats. He really liked cats and promoted the humane treatment of feral cats into the public conscience. That being said, it always seems unfair when TV critics write about a soap that they did not follow. It would be like a literary critic only writing about the second book in a trilogy without the benefit of reading the other two. It reminds me of when the NY Times wrote a review of the online versions of AMC and OLTL, the main thesis was that they were difficult to follow for the uninitiated fan. Of course, those shows were not meant for uninitiated fans, and few people would watch one episode of a soap and expect to immediately understand the plot. Also, he repeats that old yarn about Eileen Fulton being accosted on the streets of New York by a fan who could not tell fact from fiction. I dislike that story because it diminishes the intelligence of soap fans. Sometimes that mythical tale happened to Ms. Fulton in a supermarket involving a tomato and sometimes it happened on the street. However, I would give a hubbard squash to anyone who could actually verify those events.
  8. I don't know if this counts as the type paranormal that you dislike, but there were repeated references to a psychic connection between Eden and Cruz that was supposed to confirm that they were each other's destiny. Before their wedding there was that weird story where Cruz was kidnapped by a mad scientist on an island. It involved ESP, wild animals, and Eden had a vision of the site of their wedding which Sophia was able to interpret as Pebble Beach (I bet if Sophia had a shared vision of the awful hoop skirts that Eden's bridal party wore she would have warned against it). Also, during Eden's baby's kidnapping there was a psychic character who helped solve the mystery. Is that the Xmas when Lionel was arrested and the Lockridges move their celebration to the jail? I remember that episode as really solidifying the charm of the Lockridge family, along with Minx's humorous take on the police of SB (although I can't remember if Laken was present).
  9. Thank you for not seeing it as disrespectful because that was not my intent. To me, it is just remarkable that daytime shows in the 1990s thought nothing of styling the wife of a small town doctor in Italian silks with an asymmetrical hair cut. As you said, anyone with money could buy those outfits, but the sophisticated styling was what stood out to me. My amusement was derived from the idea that they valued urbane glamour over authenticity of the setting, but who could blame them, given their access to such high end designer clothes, jewels, and stylists. And it is stark contrast to the costumes of the later years of the show.
  10. The irony here is that there is a never verified story that Marla had a clause in her 227 contract that if Jackee got a spin-off then she could never return to the main show. While on The Jefferson's, Marla's character got a spin-off that quickly failed and she felt lucky to be able to return to the main show. However, once she was the lead on 227, legend has it, that she resented the attention that Jackee received, so she put the clause in place. Jackee was given a spin-off, it failed, and she never returned to 227. So, the fact that she was hired on Days using Jackee's proverbial coattails is ironic.
  11. Lady Kitty Spencer is the kind of unfortunate name usually only reserved for soap opera characters.  It is hard to imagine that in 40 years someone will have to call her Granny Kitty.

  12. I was just thinking about how amusing it was that the women of east coast soaps had such sophisticated fashion sensibilities in their choices of clothes, makeup and hair styles. I guess it would make sense that Barbara, Lisa, and Carly would keep up with the trends, but it is fun to watch the 90s episodes to see how often the other women are wearing major designers. It was also a different time when everyone was much less casual in their daily attire (from 90210 to Clueless every young woman wore a blazer with every outfit). However, I was watching an episode and in one day in Oakdale, Lucinda wore an Escada suit with coordinating coat and shoes, Connor wore a Donna Karan suit, and even Kim Hughes was wearing Armani head to toe. And think about how avant garde Kim and Carly's haircuts would seem to be in such a small suburban city. I'm not dissing the midwest, but one wonders about the authenticity of the availability (and affordability) of these small town women wearing high end fashion. I doubt that we would see many women in a suburban midwestern Target today looking as chic as those ladies. It wasn't just that their clothes were expensive, but it was complete polished looks that they tuned out on a daily basis (with the obvious exception being Emma Snyder). In real life, Ellie would have needed another farm just to store all of her hats. It is fun to look at, and I never questioned it when I watched them at the time, but upon rewatch, the fashions styling was really remarkable.
  13. I would suggest that the reason Gwyneth's reveal was such a surprise is that there was not enough groundwork in terms of clues for the audience to be able to guess whodoneit, and the murders were implausibly committed by a woman of Gwyneth's age and experience. Perhaps a final "kaiser soze" like montage of the murders would have tied things up better but I was left with a lot of questions. For example, how did Gwyneth learn to make poison makeup? Where did she buy lethal candles? How could she lift enough cement to kill Jeremy? Why was Trisha's disappearance more traumatizing than killing her other child Curtis? They showed a pen in a promos for the murders so it was reasonable to assume. I think it was a rush job that was poorly written because there were too many loose ends. Steffy's final scene with Gwyneth, and Tess's use of the stalker to gain press were interesting. However, a week later everyone moves to Manhattan and never experienced any consequences from the serial murders. In fact, from the dead body in Ally's rug to the smiley face murders, one would think that the ex-Correntth residents had never met a serial killer
  14. Is that when there was so much press about her salary? I recall that she returned with a large contract
  15. I think it makes a huge difference when writers actually watched the show and then gave their recollections. It reminds me of the All My Children novelizations when the author always included a note about what the characters were wearing because that was obviously what interested her. It was a much more engaging form of writing, but was also subject to errors, such as those included in my favorite soap history book Soap World by Robert Laguardia, because their editors were not knowledgeable in soap opera cannon. In the late 1980's SOD played catch up so that the publication matched the prior week of shows. There were weeks when the magazine covers a month worth of shows in order to be contemporary with what was on air. In order to do so they relied heavily on the production synopses rather than employing writers to actually watch the shows. As a result, you can no longer follow the story just by reading the magazine. Which is why I treasure these forums. Every day people engage in smart dissections of the daily drama, often minutes after the episodes end. It is the closest thing to the "old school" soap columns and magazines of the 1980s.
  16. I agree with @Franko that Bobbie's blindness scheme to keep Noah Drake, followed by her humiliation over his sudden departure from Port Charles really changed the character. From there she went on to her relationship with the abusive DL Brock, which resulted in her becoming an empathic stepmother to Terry, buying the brownstone, and becoming a de facto Mom to many of the youth of General Hospital. However, she backslid significantly during the adoption of Lucas, which caused her to be fired from GH (although that was swept under the rug when Gloria Monty returned and Bobbie was somehow back at the nurse's station when Bill Eckert was brought in), as well as during what I think was her most interesting period when she married Stefan Cassidine. I always felt the Damien Smith stuff was out of character, and her brief foray into undercover work to help Melissa was ridiculous. But, I really enjoyed the setup of the Stefan story and how it played on her history with Luke and Laura.
  17. @FrenchBug82 Rob Lowe reenacts Kevin Dobson's hour in the makeup chair
  18. I disliked Nick more than Dylan Hartley, (and Nick seemed so much older than Kelly) Something about the mullet-DNA in that family was very unappealing. I forgot that after Nick, Kelly met a psychiatrist named Justin Moore (played by Larry Poindexter, later of GH). It was during the phase when she worked at La Mesa and had her own apartment. Kelly was trying to create her own identity away from the other Capwells. That was also a lost thread that would have differentiated the character of Kelly from the other Capwell kids. As for Kirk, I enjoy the 80s yuppie qualities of Kirk that contrasted him with Cruz. He plays not only on Eden's desire to please CC and save the company, but also on her expectations for upward mobility that a cop on a boat could not fulfill.
  19. I know Gina's family was messed up and retconned over the years, but who were Hayley Benson's parents and how was she supposed to be related to Summer? Suddenly there was Summer, Mack, and some other kid that Phyllis didn't raise well? The French SB site notes that Stan Benson was Gina's half brother. I think the other missed opportunity was not introducing more of Stockman Demott's family. He could have been married before Gina and she could have had lots of stepkids who didn't like her.
  20. It seems like hyperbole to say he was a non-entity from day one because there were certainly a lot of story opportunities given to Warren that didn't pan out. Including his Oedipal-like relationship with Augusta, the sunken treasure, he was a murder suspect in Channing's death, and his newspaper. As I mentioned previously, there was clearly some chemistry testing with Eden when she parachuted into his front yard. And, he has this very amusing scene with Minx in the first month of shows where he is applying body oil in the living room, she urges him to get a real job, and he mentions some investors who want to open a new beach club. I am no fan of Maggie-the-cop (to this day I think her husband's catatonia was actually just a response to being bored to death by her), but those scenes of her sweaty fantasies of a shirtless Warren changing a tire were promo-ed for weeks. For me there are two key missed opportunities (1) Summer, connecting Gina in with the Lockridges thru her sister had a lot of potential. Warren could have helped Gina fight the Capwells and used his newspaper to garner support. Lilly/Ted were a pale retconned comparison to Summer/Warren. (2) Santana, looking back it is odd that they never paired Santana and Warren. They were the same age, considering that Warren and Channing were friends from school. It would have established that Santana had a type, sons of rich guys. Santana could have used a stable relationship with Warren in order to gain custody of Brandon. A Warren/Santana/Cruz/Eden quad seems like a natural fit within the SB ecosystem. And it would have avoided those creepy CC and Santana workout scenes.
  21. Somebody asked a question on Facebook and now I can't keep the Mitch storyline straight in my memory. Here's the timeline as I recall, please feel free to correct: After St. Croix, Mitch returns to Bay City, he hides in the Cory barn. Rachel finds out she's pregnant after one night with Mitch in St. Croix, there's a confrontation with Mitch, the barn burns down and everyone thinks he's dead Rachel goes on trial for Mitch's murder, Mac finds out that he's sterile from the drugs that Janice gave him and that Matthew is Mitch's son ("Oh, Rachel") Mitch returns from the dead, goes on the run with Rachel, and they fall in love. Rachel is exonerated, gives birth, and she and Mitch plan to move to San Francisco Mitch goes to San Francisco, but Steve's return from the dead distracts Rachel. After Steve dies in a car accident, Mitch returns, he is influenced by a vigilantly father's rights group to kidnap Matthew, Rachel saves Matthew after a car chase, Mitch is arrested and goes to jail, until Sam marries Amanda and Mitch is released wanting to have a relationship with Matthew. Mitch has a relationship with Felicia, they break up, he remembers that he was a photographer, moves to Africa, and never talks to Matthew again My questions are (1) How long was he thought dead after the barn fire?, (2) How long did he stay in SF, and (3) How long was his return/kidnap story (on AWHP it notes that he returned for a week in 1982, but I think of the kidnapping as being longer with a chase in San Diego that is shown in one of the anniversary clips)? Did Bill Espy quit three times, or was the comeback always a short term gig? Was the kidnapping a plot device to reunite Mac and Rachel?
  22. I'm leaning toward a fake out because there's been so much foreshadowing of Liam's death (from the wedding topper with its head chopped off, to the psychic, and all of the drama around his investigation). It is easy to see how Liam could have to escape, pretend he died, and then return in the cliffhanger at the end of season, just as Fallon has moved on with another guy. However, as a newly committed viewer, I would be let down by a fake death. There's been so many good scenes of Fallon and Liam as a team that I would hate for him to betray her trust by faking his death. We know he can't get amnesia again because that breaks all of the soap rules. And we know that if he fakes his death Fallon will forgive him immediately, which all seems too predictable. I'm still hoping for either Blake to die on the eve of Fallon's IPO, (which would have an impact on the entire family, as well as her relationship with Liam, and be a great intro for Amanda), or for Cristol to die (which would impact Adam, Kirby, and Blake). Either way with the number of times that they've mentioned the date of the IPO it has got to have something to do with the death.
  23. I'm addicted to achievement so the fact that my status is set at "apprentice" when I've posted 1,564 times since 2013 is driving me nuts.  If you hear someone screaming, "I used to be a contract player.." it's me.

    1. All My Shadows

      All My Shadows

      I have 16,000+ posts since 2005 (not counting two years on the "old" board before that), and I'm a "Rookie," so I feel you. I didn't have a single hair on my ass when I first got here, but I'm a Rookie.

    2. Errol


      I'm working on getting this corrected. Hopefully will have a solution soon enough.

    3. j swift

      j swift

      @ErrolThanks for your reply and please note that I am grateful for the community that you've curated.  The status thing does not divert from the entertainment I get from reading so many people's fascinating discourse on the daytime genre.

  24. It is ironic that Laken is not even home for Lionel's introductory episode. The episode ends on a cliffhanger with Warren mistakenly knocking Lionel out because he thinks that he's an intruder. Then the next episode picks up with Lionel regaining consciousness and trading quips with Augusta, while Warrren sits around in a robe, and nobody even mentions Laken or calls for her to come see her father. She's in LA during Ted and Danny's summer adventure, but I do not recall a follow up scene where Laken greets her father or remarks on his return. She such a nonentity that her presence is not needed.
  25. I think it is most noticeable in the sets that seem sparse, like the strip club and the lobby at La Mirage. (BTW, did Sam know that Lachlan Buchanan (the twinkiest stripper in the South) went back to stripping? I recall he made a joke about it, but Sam seemed surprised to see him at the club.) It is less noticeable when they return from places where they would have seen other people like when Adam comes home from the hospital, or Blake and Cristal come back from the track. (I thought going from the Carrington Racetrack to the Carrington Plane was very Batman, going from the Batcar to the Batplane). (Also, what was up with the scene about Blake telling Fallon to buy plane, when her father who works for the company already owns one? I keep thinking they are setting up a plot that Blake is secretly working to destroy Fallon's company from within but nothing supports that theory). (And can we agree that only in soaps dresses come in those boxes with the lid wrapped separately from the rest of the package, and only in soaps would a woman want someone else to pick out a surprise wedding dress?)
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