15 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

I liked the Carly/Nina confrontation for the most part. I would have loved a full on cat fight but of course Jason had to walk in. I'll take what I can get from this show at this point I guess. It wasn't totally one-sided for a change but it still was slanted in Carly's direction. Laura Wright and Cynthia Watros elevated some of it and I thought they were good...

I would like more POV from some of these people, like Escargot and even Jason and Liz. It's just so lacking. 

 

I know they're trying to keep Esme 'mysterious' but they have to give a little at times too ... I feel like they shifted directions on her already but I could be wrong.

I feel like the Nina/Carly scenes were solid overall, but felt just a little anemic due to lack of physical altercation, lol. In a situation like this it would make sense if Carly slapped Nina.

I agree, they've haven't told us enough about Esme. Like who is she really after? She's interacted with Kevin, hates Ava, and is also circling around Joss. Who is she really after? They could also give us more insight into her motivations, like what's driving her to do what she's doing. We're not given much of nothing but her hanging onto Spencer, while Sprina aren't given much of anything anymore in regards to airtime together.

They should have had at least one alone scenes with Spencer/Trina before he got exposed. But I don't think we are going to get that. We might not really get much of that for a while after he's exposed. They are wasting airtime with the way they are handling Esme. And I think that the actress can act which makes what they are doing worse.

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I honestly forgot about Stella until I made that post just now. 😂 I wonder if the show is just going to forget about the whole plot with Stella and the divorce papers now that Jordan isn't on the show anymore.

2 minutes ago, xtr said:

I feel like the Nina/Carly scenes were solid overall, but felt just a little anemic due to lack of physical alteraction, lol. In a situation like this it would make sense if Carly slapped Nina.

I agree, they've haven't told us enough about her. Like who is she really after? She's interacted with Kevin, hates Ava, and is also circling around Joss. Who is she really after? They could also give us more insight into her motivations, like what's driving her to do what she's doing. We're not given much of nothing but her hanging onto Spencer, while Sprina aren't given much of anything anymore in regards to airtime together.

They should have had at least one alone scenes with Spencer/Trina before he got exposed. But I don't think we are going to get that. We might not really get much of that for a while after he's exposed. They are wasting airtime with the way they are handling Esme. And I think that the actress can act which makes what they are doing worse.

 

I agree totally on Esme. They already seem to be wasting time. I think the whole 'Ava's stalker' storyline is stalling and keeps getting 'reset' if you will. We're all losing interest. I like the actress too and she seems to elevate a bit past the one-noteness of the character. I just don't get this show. There's "slow burn" (where, you know, it's actually interesting) and then there's whatever they call what they're doing.

 

Agreed on Carly and Nina. I could nitpick a few things but I'm satisfied for the most part. I wanted a slap really bad though.

10 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

I agree totally on Esme. They already seem to be wasting time. I think the whole 'Ava's stalker' storyline is stalling and keeps getting 'reset' if you will. We're all losing interest. I like the actress too and she seems to elevate a bit past the one-noteness of the character. I just don't get this show. There's "slow burn" (where, you know, it's actually interesting) and then there's whatever they call what they're doing.

 

Agreed on Carly and Nina. I could nitpick a few things but I'm satisfied for the most part. I wanted a slap really bad though.

I think that the Ava's stalker storyline is definitely stalking. And it does feel like according to what I've seen from the newest spoilers, like they are going to kind of reset after spencer is exposed. I wonder if a big reason it's stalling is because Ava/Nikolas haven't really kissed and haven't shown much in the way of physical intimacy.

I'm not sure if that's because MC is not vaccinated or maybe that's a choice by either or Maura not to kiss due to Covid, I don't know. But they are definitely lacking when it comes to kissing and physical closeness. Those bottom of their shoes kisses are not working. They couldn't do any better before the vaccines, but now the vaccines are out there. And IMO, Nik/Ava don't have enough chemistry to sell a pairing that can go without kissing/physical closeness. Sprina can sell that and a pair like Valentin/Anna can, but Nava can't IMO. 

So, I think that's why the show keeps doing everything to try and keep them apart so they don't have to kiss/have real intimacy. On one hand it brought us NC as Spencer, and he's a doing a great job in the role. On the other hand they can't do this forever. And even if they do reunite, after Spencer is exposed. (And I think they might) I think they still will flat as a couple because of the lack of physical closeness. 

And I don't like what they are doing with Sprina. No alone scenes and today Trina said she barely knew Spencer. Granted she hasn't known him a long time, but that did feel a bit cold. Cam showed more concern for Spencer's well-being today than Trina did. That may change as this story progresses, but that's not something I like to see. Though, maybe things will work out for them. 

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Is it me or does temp Nik look like he's totally wasted and just rolled out of bed?  

Just now, ChitHappens said:

Is it me or does temp Nik look like he's totally wasted and just rolled out of bed?  

Or out on parole from Rikers Island…

1 minute ago, ChitHappens said:

Is it me or does temp Nik look like he's totally wasted and just rolled out of bed?  

Might as well have brought Tyler back for a day...

2 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Might as well have brought Tyler back for a day...

😂😂😂 Yikes!

5 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Might as well have brought Tyler back for a day...

*gigglesnort* 

Carly made me want to pull my hair out today. She is such a freaking hypocrite.

36 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Might as well have brought Tyler back for a day...

It took me a second to get this and then when I did 🤣🤣 savage. 
 

I saw the chem btwn Esme and Cam too and now there are two teen couplings I want to happen that seem unlikely. Seriously, they were getting great buzz from Sprina so they decide to just not have them be alone together for months? 

Maybe I am overthinking it but the fact that Nina's first line during the confrontation was "I see Sonny told you..." followed by Carly briefly frowning tells me this particular point is going to bother Carly. Because indeed he didn't tell her and we are supposed to draw a conclusion from that.

I didn't think it was worth its own spoiler thread, but a recurring character has been upped to contract status. 

Spoiler

Harmony

Why??? Yet another bizarre decision that nobody was asking for. 

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5 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

I didn't think it was worth its own spoiler thread, but a recurring character has been upped to contract status. 

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Harmony

Why??? Yet another bizarre decision that nobody was asking for. 

I do wonder if she is Esme's Bio Mom with Ryan as the Dad. Maybe if true, Harmony doesnt know thats her daughter but I bet Ryan does

Another ridiculous casting decision by #FireFrank

10 hours ago, FrenchBug82 said:

Maybe I am overthinking it but the fact that Nina's first line during the confrontation was "I see Sonny told you..." followed by Carly briefly frowning tells me this particular point is going to bother Carly. Because indeed he didn't tell her and we are supposed to draw a conclusion from that.

 

Yep. Carly should definitely be pissed at Sonny. It's probably not going to be long before Carly starts realizing there's more between Sonny and Nina than either is saying. Hopefully.

45 minutes ago, MichaelGL said:

Another ridiculous casting decision by #FireFrank

 

It's such an odd decision. I don't even dislike the actress and I'd rather see Harmony over Willow but like ... WHY?