The girl who played Ava on GL. The one that turned out to be Olivia and Jeffrey's daughter. I don't know why they thought she was worth keeping around for so long. 

2 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

The girl who played Ava on GL. The one that turned out to be Olivia and Jeffrey's daughter. I don't know why they thought she was worth keeping around for so long. 

 
I don’t even recall that actresses name off the top of my head but she was awful and seemed to get paired or tested with everyone. I remember she was first brought in to prop both Sandy & Johnathan but somehow stuck around into being in an instant feud with Olivia. I guess they gave up on her because she ran out of men her age to sleep with. 

The first actor that sprung to mind under this topic was Victor Webster (Nicholas Alamain on Days).  I recall that within his first month on the show he was featured on Entertainment Tonight, and there was a spread (pardon the pun) in Playgirl.  All of this publicity for an ill-conceived SORAS character that was gone within a year and later de-Sorased.

 

Of course, Mr. Webster went on to work elsewhere, (including a memorable striptease in a tv movie about the Chippendale murders), but it was remarkable how much press he got for his first role in daytime that ultimately made very little impact.

 

I would also place children of actors into this category, (Ryan Brown, Morgan Englund, and Clementine Ford).  Lots of press attention was given due to their inherited celebrity status, but they never developed a fan base on their own.

 

Finally, Jennifer Hammon (Karen Wexler) was literally the face of Port Charles when it first debuted.  She was the center of the plot, Scotty and other characters were established to be within her orbit, and she was photographed on all of the posters and commercials for the show.  A year later, after joining a cult and being groomed to be Tom Cruise's wife, she left the show and was never heard from again.

 

Similarly, Vanessa Dorman (Caitlin Deschanel) on Sunset Beach was the center of a major baby switch plot line involving her mother (played by Lesley-Ann Down) and husband (Eddie Cibrian) only to ask for more money, get fired/recast, and become a trivia question for hard core soap fans.

Edited June 13, 20205 yr by j swift

On 6/12/2020 at 9:46 AM, Faulkner said:

For me, “not happening” means someone who hops from soap to soap (edit: or is force-fed to us intermittently on a single soap), is pushed heavily or paired with popular characters romantically or as part of a core family, only to be greeted with a “meh,” a quick axing or a ticket to the backburner. Some of these people seemed like they happened with brief success on one soap but were revealed to be a flash in the pan when they tried to re-create that success elsewhere in daytime. IMO Scott Clifton, as awful as Liam is, definitely “happened” on B&B. He’s led that show for years.

I think that’s a pretty good assessment.

 

 

Who is Ryan Brown related to? I agree he failed miserably on both GL and Y&R. In fact Brown’s casting at Y&R surprised me as was there no one else for the role? Suspiciously like a Lucy Johnson directive to me. 
 

I remember ATWT hyping they had hired Spencer Grammer in the pivotal of Lucy and comparing her talent to Jennifer Landon at the time. Well as it turned out the apple fell really far from the tree on that one and she was let go a few months later. She then had that crappy ABC Family show but after that ended she went back into the woodworks. 

9 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I think that’s a pretty good assessment.

 

 

Who is Ryan Brown related to? I agree he failed miserably on both GL and Y&R. In fact Brown’s casting at Y&R surprised me as was there no one else for the role? Suspiciously like a Lucy Johnson directive to me. 
 

I remember ATWT hyping they had hired Spencer Grammer in the pivotal of Lucy and comparing her talent to Jennifer Landon at the time. Well as it turned out the apple fell really far from the tree on that one and she was let go a few months later. She then had that crappy ABC Family show but after that ended she went back into the woodworks. 

Ryan Brown's mother is romance author Sandra Brown. 

 

Edited June 13, 20205 yr by Forever8

On 6/11/2020 at 9:27 PM, carolineg said:

 

ALW's Courtney was slightly promising in the beginning with AJ.  But awful after that.  I do sorta remember liking her with Jax at first, but the drab 4 years were just so much..  And I think Spencer remembers her?  But agreed she never spoken about in any other context.  Mike doesn't even mention her.

 

I like Katherine Bell.  I liked MBE as a bitch and in the Ned/Lois story and with Lucy.  But it was when they paired her with SN's Stefan and pushed her off a parapet  a million times it was done lol!

Same. 

 

I thought MBE gave good bitca. And I looked forward to her feuding with Lucy during the Nurse Ball every year. 

 

Of course, I didn't know about her and SN on DAYS at the time so I liked them together. And how gothic it was. And everything with the ball and her conversation with Laura is one of my favorites with the duality, acting, writing, EVERYTHING...and then she came back looking like a mini-Helena HAHAHAHAHA. They could have been bitter adversaries (Stefan and Katherine) forever. 

On 6/11/2020 at 11:03 PM, Khan said:

Another name: Christopher Douglas.  Couldn't happen on OLTL, Y&R (although, that one probably wasn't his fault) or on PASSIONS.

 

I sooo liked him loosening up Jill on Y&R, while I like the recast, I felt he had some chemistry with JW.

 

On 6/12/2020 at 6:46 AM, Faulkner said:

For me, “not happening” means someone who hops from soap to soap (edit: or is force-fed to us intermittently on a single soap), is pushed heavily or paired with popular characters romantically or as part of a core family, only to be greeted with a “meh,” a quick axing or a ticket to the backburner. Some of these people seemed like they happened with brief success on one soap but were revealed to be a flash in the pan when they tried to re-create that success elsewhere in daytime. IMO Scott Clifton, as awful as Liam is, definitely “happened” on B&B. He’s led that show for years.

Now some of them are not quick.  

 

 

9 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Now some of them are not quick.  

 

Touché. That’s very true. I don’t think Roger Howarth on GH as Franco ever really happened, yet here we are eight years later with him as a constant presence (and paired with a character the show doesn’t particularly hold in high esteem). 

I don't think Roger Howarth has 'happened' since 1994, if that. 

 

Let's not forget how terrible he was on ATWT as well...

Edited June 15, 20205 yr by BetterForgotten

On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2020 at 7:42 AM, j swift said:

The first actor that sprung to mind under this topic was Victor Webster (Nicholas Alamain on Days).  I recall that within his first month on the show he was featured on Entertainment Tonight, and there was a spread (pardon the pun) in Playgirl.  All of this publicity for an ill-conceived SORAS character that was gone within a year and later de-Sorased.

 

Of course, Mr. Webster went on to work elsewhere, (including a memorable striptease in a tv movie about the Chippendale murders), but it was remarkable how much press he got for his first role in daytime that ultimately made very little impact.

 

 

Finally, Jennifer Hammon (Karen Wexler) was literally the face of Port Charles when it first debuted.  She was the center of the plot, Scotty and other characters were established to be within her orbit, and she was photographed on all of the posters and commercials for the show.  A year later, after joining a cult and being groomed to be Tom Cruise's wife, she left the show and was never heard from again.

 

Victor Webster was blazing hot.  I assume that's why he was pimped.  I don't think anyone, anywhere thought he was a good actor.  He was pretty charismatic in a role that just made no sense with the aging.  He was in a love triangle with Kate and KA's Billie.  That's a no win situation lol.

I really liked Jennifer Hammon's Karen.  Much better than Marie Wilson's.  To be fair, she probably got most of the publicity within the "younger" cast because she was actually tied to GH.  But also never heard from again so I could be wrong lol.

 

11 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Same. 

 

I thought MBE gave good bitca. And I looked forward to her feuding with Lucy during the Nurse Ball every year. 

 

Of course, I didn't know about her and SN on DAYS at the time so I liked them together. And how gothic it was. And everything with the ball and her conversation with Laura is one of my favorites with the duality, acting, writing, EVERYTHING...and then she came back looking like a mini-Helena HAHAHAHAHA. They could have been bitter adversaries (Stefan and Katherine) forever.

 

 

 

 

Stefan had/has so much potential still.  Katherine was pretty ill-conceived, but MBE played her well.  I always disliked the fact they dumped the intriguing Bobbie/Stefan pairing for Kat/Stefan.

1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

I don't think Roger Howarth has 'happened' since 1994, if that. 

 

Let's not forget how terrible he was on ATWT as well...

 

I would certainly agree Howarth has never happened on GH.  To go from James Franco's Franco to whatever it is RH is playing these days will never stop being mind boggling.  I really want to know what on earth Frank or whoever was truly thinking with this.  Can't GH just cut him and save the money and hire someone back the audience cares about?

2 hours ago, Faulkner said:

Touché. That’s very true. I don’t think Roger Howarth on GH as Franco ever really happened, yet here we are eight years later with him as a constant presence (and paired with a character the show doesn’t particularly hold in high esteem). 

Hahaha. 

 

Which is a shame because quite a few fans LOVE Liz more than Franco. 

 

And while I liked some of RC's writing...I LOATHE how Franco would worm his way into other people's tales. I mean...even now does the majority of fans accept him really? 

54 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Victor Webster was blazing hot.  I assume that's why he was pimped.  I don't think anyone, anywhere thought he was a good actor.  He was pretty charismatic in a role that just made no sense with the aging.  He was in a love triangle with Kate and KA's Billie.  That's a no win situation lol.

I really liked Jennifer Hammon's Karen.  Much better than Marie Wilson's.  To be fair, she probably got most of the publicity within the "younger" cast because she was actually tied to GH.  But also never heard from again so I could be wrong lol.

 

 

Stefan had/has so much potential still.  Katherine was pretty ill-conceived, but MBE played her well.  I always disliked the fact they dumped the intriguing Bobbie/Stefan pairing for Kat/Stefan.

 

I would certainly agree Howarth has never happened on GH.  To go from James Franco's Franco to whatever it is RH is playing these days will never stop being mind boggling.  I really want to know what on earth Frank or whoever was truly thinking with this.  Can't GH just cut him and save the money and hire someone back the audience cares about?

THANK YOU!!! Victor Webster was sex on a stick at one point. And had the charisma at least to make up for some of that acting. 

 

With Jennifer Harmon, I like that they did what they did with TB as recast Carly...found a recast who looked similarly to their predecessor. Always respected that and at one point had to research to be sure it wasn't the first actress. 

17 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Hahaha. 

 

Which is a shame because quite a few fans LOVE Liz more than Franco. 

 

And while I liked some of RC's writing...I LOATHE how Franco would worm his way into other people's tales. I mean...even now does the majority of fans accept him really? 

THANK YOU!!! Victor Webster was sex on a stick at one point. And had the charisma at least to make up for some of that acting. 

 

With Jennifer Harmon, I like that they did what they did with TB as recast Carly...found a recast who looked similarly to their predecessor. Always respected that and at one point had to research to be sure it wasn't the first actress. 

 

True Jennifer Hammon and Marie Wilson looked a lot alike.  And they favored Cari Shayne, so good job casting!  I always felt so bad for Karen leaving another sex on a stick candidate Jagger for dull, boring Joe Scanlon lol.  Antonio Sabato Jr. is another candidate for being heavily pushed because he was hot with no discernible acting skills, only to leave after 1 contract cycle to do whatever he does now.  Try to make a GH return happen? lol  Poor Jagger never even gets a mention during the numerous Stone tributes we have had through the years.  I guess he got the guest stint on Night Shift though lol.

 

On 6/11/2020 at 11:40 PM, Vee said:

 

Off to OLTL, too.

Then GH wherfe he played Reese's abusive EX. Didnt he do YR too when JFP was there

Liz fans love her having a man valued by the EP and getting airtime. That's it. Some of those folks would be down for her with Sonny or the Emperor from Star Wars if it kept Becky employed and on 3 days a week. They cape for Franco bc it's airtime and prominence, their feelings mean nothing to me in this instance.

Years ago Billy Hufsey was pushed as Emilio on Days. He had the bad boy/good girl template writing with Adreienne, Jennifer and Melissa,lots of sexy photo shoots etc and was even brought back but nothing seemed to work. 

 

Edited June 15, 20205 yr by Paul Raven

Just now, Paul Raven said:

Years ago Billy Hufsey was pushed as Emilio on Days.

Didn’t Michael Logan at one point write that he was the worst actor working on daytime?