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Just now, Soapsuds said:

Yes them too...although I did like Graham.....Jordan and Zach are just awful.

 

Graham's the most boring of them all! LMAO. But I guess because he looks good without a shirt that makes him more interesting

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Just now, cassadine1991 said:

Everyone is foaming at the mouth here and picking everything apart like vultures at a carcass.

 

LMAO. I'm glad someone said it.

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1 minute ago, John said:

They are Keeping Reed Tessa. The Tessa Mariah Story will continue

 

 

 

If the backlash continues CBS will cave and end the story...just watch!

1 minute ago, KMan101 said:

 

Graham's the most boring of them all! LMAO. But I guess because he looks good without a shirt that makes him more interesting

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You're losing more points.

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53 minutes ago, Vizion said:

DC: Y&R fans on social media are questioning the timing of your decision to retire and the launch of the story. Do you regret not being able to stay on and tell the story yourself?

SS: The two events are not related; this storyline was approved last October. The material airing now was written in May because the show is three months ahead of air. I know a lot of fans got upset by the only interview I did while at Y&R, which was last October with Michael Logan. He had been faithfully watching the show throughout all the head writer changes and really wanted answers to the loose ends that were left by my predecessor. What he didn't know is that night I had to fly to Vancouver where my 61-year-old brother just died suddenly and unexpectedly. He was my last surviving family member and it devastated me. Thinking about future stories for Y&R was the furthest thing from my mind, so I just made up a bunch of stuff because I hadn't gotten the chance to write a long-term yet. At that point, I honestly didn't think I could make six months in the job. So I'm thrilled to have made it to one year.

 

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I'm sorry about her brother, but you'd think that she would have had ideas for storylines when she got hired. While it doesn't surprise me if she took her job at Y&R so casually, given the way that they have cycled through writers in recent years, it helps explain just why her material is so empty. 

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11 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

My guess?  No one else was eager to take the job.  Which might explain why Mal Young is now the HW.

Yeah. Sadly that's likely the case, which is crazy because HWs still make bank. I remember when Guza left GH, and they promoted Michele Val Jean and Elizabeth Korte to interim head writer before taking on Megan McTavish (ugh) for the permanent role. I wonder if Y&R might have asked Natalie Minardi Slater and Janice Ferri Esser to hold the position while they recruited someone else to take over. 

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Look, if Sally did come into the gig on short notice and with nothing that approached a long-term plan, then why not admit as much to Logan?  Why not just tell him (and us) what's going on and then say, "Come back to me in six months or so and we'll talk about what long-range plans I got up mah sleeve"?  Why did she feel the need to bluff Logan AND the viewers?  As desperate as viewers might be for Y&R to make a comeback, I think they'd rather you be honest with them than to blow more smoke up their collective, figurative asses.

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1 hour ago, Vizion said:

 Daytime Confidential: Mariah and Tessa kissed last week on The Young and the Restless. What was the genesis behind telling a story where two seemingly straight women fall in love?

Sally Sussman: When I came into Y&R last September, I had one day's notice to start the job. I had been traveling in France with my feature documentary [Midnight Return: The Story of Billy Hayes and Turkey], and hadn't been watching the show for several years. So, I had nothing prepared and never have started a job like that before. But because of the change happening so fast, I had to jump in with both feet. While starting to write the daily shows, I came up with several stories that I pitched the network; one of which is the love story between Mariah and a new character named Tessa. This is a love story; it's not a gay story. It's about falling in love with a person, not a gender. It is about Mariah and Tessa's self-discovery and it catches them both off guard. People fall in love unexpectedly for all sorts of reasons. Some they understand; some they don't.

 

DC: Per usual with LGBT stories on daytime, some fans are loudly voicing their disapproval on social media. Did you anticipate this?

SS: Before the kiss actually aired and the audience was starting to sense where the story was going, I was told by CBS that they had been getting a lot of negative comments. Because I had been away from the daytime genre for 10 years, and was aware that many other soaps had done stories featuring LGBT characters — some as long as 20 years ago — I was honestly a little taken aback by the depth of the negativity. It made me quite sad. When I created Generations, my goal was to make the African-American families where you didn't see race. I had hoped with this story people wouldn't just see gender; they'd feel the honest love between the characters.

 

 

I'm bored of hearing "it's a love story" when same-sex relationships pop up. Viewers don't see it that way. They see a gay story. It doesn't matter what you call it. 

 

Say what you will about the writing for Bianca on AMC - I'd say it was a lot of [!@#$%^&*] - but Agnes Nixon took time to have her come out and make viewers care about her. ATWT did the same with Luke. That meant when they did have relationships, viewers were more supportive. 

 

Y&R has always had an extremely conservative fan base (which I'd think she would have known given her history with the show) but even if they didn't, there would be a backlash about two women being involved. Many would see it as a stunt, on top of the people who object due to homophobia. 

 

You can say love is love and it's not about gender as many times as you want when you're on your Twitter or Facebook or whatever. When you're a writer, it doesn't work that way. 

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But it should be a "love is love" story. Why do viewers have to label it "the gay story"? More people are coming out as sexually fluid. I'm tired of all of us having labels. We live in a society that insists on labels. It's annoying. We're all just human beings who want love.

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8 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

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I'm sorry about her brother, but you'd think that she would have had ideas for storylines when she got hired. While it doesn't surprise me if she took her job at Y&R so casually, given the way that they have cycled through writers in recent years, it helps explain just why her material is so empty. 

Like Victor's family parties?

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And I love Sally's directness and that she just came up with stuff. LOL. It doesn't bother me. She clearly didn't have long-term plans. There was clearly lots of backstage interference whether she admits it or not ... everyone's coming for her so I hate that I feel like I have to even defend her because while I liked a few things she did (I judge things differently than some, I look for little things, like Sharon getting a reset but others say "it's boring") but I think she lacked direction, her new characters lack depth ... she was lackluster and boring but she wasn't a hack.

2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Like Victor's family parties?

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If you look past being annoyed and bored by it, there was a clear effort to make Victor likeable again, like she did with Sharon (and with Victor it was quickly thrown out the window). I'm not saying I enjoyed his tea parties with Faith, but look a little deeper sometimes

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Did we not all read the same interview? Or are y'all just going off of (biased) comments here? What she actually said was the whole gig happened very fast, she had ONE day from not being the HW to being the HW. They clearly needed someone FAST. She took the gig.

 

Here's the answer. The very first part of the very first question:

 

When I came into Y&R last September, I had one day's notice to start the job. I had been traveling in France with my feature documentary. So, I had nothing prepared and never have started a job like that before. But because of the change happening so fast, I had to jump in with both feet. While starting to write the daily shows, I came up with several stories that I pitched the network; one of which is the love story between Mariah and a new character named Tessa. 

 

So this explains the half-baked, haphazard, unfinished nature of the show. She was making it up as she went along. The difference is, it was not show-decimating, character-destroying stuff that she was making up.

 

And she takes responsibility for the work she did. That's something to hold against her now?

 

10 minutes ago, Khan said:

Look, if Sally did come into the gig on short notice and with nothing that approached a long-term plan, then why not admit as much to Logan?  Why not just tell him (and us) what's going on and then say, "Come back to me in six months or so and we'll talk about what long-range plans I got up mah sleeve"?  Why did she feel the need to bluff Logan AND the viewers?  As desperate as viewers might be for Y&R to make a comeback, I think they'd rather you be honest with them than to blow more smoke up their collective, figurative asses.

 

I will never understand why she did it this way, but a couple of things: I HIGHLY doubt anyone would be happy if she admitted she had no long-term plan when starting. The network wouldn't like what it said about them, and the fans would DECIMATE her from the very beginning for daring to start the job without it. She felt the need because that's what HW do when they start: They come on and say they have all these long terms plans. We've seen this on literally every HW change for Y&R. I like the optimism but she would have been picked apart.

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