I got very very angry last night when I saw quotes that Frankie supposedly made about Zach (essentially that he wanted to stab the baby to death, he wanted to bathe in his blood, dildo talk, and more) that have been all over social media. Some people are saying these aren't true and they were just lies put into the Joker updates. Until there is video, I will give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's sad that such vile, personal comments are so true to Frankie's character.

I despise him. This isn't even a good game move. It's 100% personal because he never imagined he'd come on this show and have HIS season and HIS story hijacked by a frat boy with a big heart and a big mouth who worshiped him. He has spent months trying to destroy Zach and he finally has his moment in the sun. I just know he thinks America will adore him and see him as a hero for this. I am sick of his Dobby face and I am sick of his tanorexic body and I am sick of being asked to give a damn about him because of his last name. He has done so much to ruin this season and ruin any mood in the house. He's wasted so many opportunities and chances. He could have been liked. He and Zach could have been a fan favorite alliance even if they weren't good players, like that nasty-ass "Brenchel" (I like her, I don't like him) got fans. He threw it all away, because he can't take not being the center of attention. I'm tired of his nasty hands being all over men because he knows he can get away with it. I'm tired of his embarrassing wet dream crush on Caleb, who only goes near him because of his sister, and who will ditch him as soon as he realizes Ariana Grande's people are not going to help a racist stalker get a big break.

Rarely has anyone destroyed post-show career options and destroyed goodwill this way.

I feel like production just decided not to even bother hiding their disdain, as apparently the zings for Derrick were that he was ugly (which bothered him a lot), told Cody that America had no idea who he was (that will burn), and openly called the adulteress out on her fling (which reduced her to tears, as she finally realized the "don't forget about me, OK?" in her husband's letter was a bad sign).

Cody was going on about how Donny is "skating" and Donny has won nothing. Donny's number of comp wins is larger than the size of your penis, you dead-eyed, soulless snot. You are a loser and a chump and you have no value in anything beyond a jerkoff photo. Quit the game and give your stipend to someone more worthy...like Cowboy.

I wish the show would have two jurors come back. Or would cancel the eviction.

I'm not going to sit here and act like Zach has been robbed, but he is the only reason I have kept watching this season. He's had so much drama and drive and even though he's said some things I don't like, he's also had so much compassion and sweetness. He's multi-faceted in a way this show rarely lets players be now. I can't imagine this group without him and I won't bother watching without him. I hate that he's leaving. I hate that he's leaving with people in there who think he's scum and America hates him and America will cheer them. I hate that he has so little self-confidence through them. I hate that he did nothing but give loyalty and trust to Cody and Frankie in particular and in return they said vile things about him for a month. I hate that even in the slim chance he returns, he will likely go right back out. I hate that his story doesn't seem over and yet it's done, and we're left with rotting corpses.

I can respect Derrick, to a point, but I don't like him. I only like Victoria and Donny, and they have no chance.

I started crying last night when I realized Donny would once again be all alone in that hellhouse with people who think he's some sort of evil genius or pervert. And I know people in his position have had a much harder time than he does, but it's just so depressing and mind-numbing, this herd mentality and how gross and unappealing most of those involved are. He and Zach had started to become close and Zach finally saw that he needed Donny for his game, and now Zach is probably going, just as everyone Donny cares about goes.

I feel ashamed of myself that I cried over THIS show, of all shows, which is such trash, and has been trash for such a long time. I feel like it was my subconscious telling me to let go.

Wow. Epic post. Well said.

One of Zach's friends, who runs a fan twitter, called Frankie a fa**ot last night. He deleted the post and apologized, but it bothers me because I've seen an undercurrent of, "I hate gay people because of Frankie!!" in fandom that I didn't even see with Andy last season. I don't even entirely know why. I think it may be because Frankie is such a bitterly negative stereotype. Either way, it's wrong and it should be called out.

Zach has made one or two comments I haven't cared for that seemed borderline, but I do believe he's supportive of gay people (and frankly I wonder about his own sexuality, especially after this http://zankieslife.tumblr.com/post/94994677199/thanks-to-victoria-i-think-zach-is-finally). I feel like the topic is going to veer away from Frankie's many ugly actions and offensive actions, and toward Frankie being gay, and it shouldn't be that way. Frankie does not represent me and he never will.

Edited August 17, 201411 yr by DRW50

Because BB never casts anything but weak/crying gay men (Ragan, Bunky, Beau) or queenie, attention-whore, evil gay men (Marcellus, Frankie, Joshuah, Andy.) The only decent gay men we've ever had were Will in BB5 and Kevin in BB11. Ragan made a post about it that I made fun of him for at the time, but it's true.

And they're hiding his favorite shirt (along with stuff of other people's, which he will likely get the blame for). It really is like Jen Johnson all over again

I guess the only consolation is these people don't have the undeserved popularity Dick Donato did.

Didn't I read somewhere that Zach is saying he is bisexual. Oh yeah it was on Twitter. I hate guys like Frankie....

Thats why I stopped watching this s hit show long time ago.....why torture yourself....I wish I could say that about DWTS and the endings of Bachelor....the guy I want to get the girl never does..lol

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Frankie says he only has 3 options to nom, one he has no beef with, one has done nothing negative to him, and one tried to murder him #BB16

Bravo, Carl you hit on so many points I agree with it's scary! I will probably stop watching if Zack leaves as well, because no one in there but Donny is worth watching. Derrick irritates me, I don't see how Victoria has skated along as she bores me. Caleb is creepy, Cody, well Cody is "there", and Christine [Alice the Goon, Popeye] grates on my nerves. Frankie's OTT "Look at me I'm soooooooooo Gay!" while fondling and writhing on Caleb who's made it clear he stalks women, not men. As a gay man who just acts like a man, not a stereotype, he just embarrasses me. I actually find that Zack's devotion to Frankie, who badmouths him constantly, makes me feel even worse for him. I hope he doesn't leave for all of our sakes, the house won't be watchable w/out him!

idk, personally I think Caleb will let Frankie blow him when there aren't cameras on them 24/7.

The crucification of Zach has begun. Everyone is calling him the "Saboteur." These hamsters are so damn stupid and paranoid.

The way they're treating Zach is disgusting. I just canceled my feeds. Done with this season.

Might as well. Zach just accepted his fate that he's going. You can tell he's emotionally over it and has given in. Especially when Caleb told him in so many words he's going. Good thing is that Caleb now knows about the Detonators as Zach told him. But Caleb tossed the info aside (like the idiot that he is) and told Zach he's going home b/c he supposedly stole the cue ball earlier. Lies. And that everyone believes he the "saboteur." Does these idiots honestly believe that production would bring back a twist that failed miserably? For Christine, Caleb, & Cody to be such "super fans," they are stupid. Once they realize that they spent the summer helping Derrick and Frankie (Donny too but they want him out) make 5k a task, they'll be bitter. Especially Cody. But thank God we won't have to listen to him bitch, pout, and moan on feeds.

Twitter fans are revolting b/c Frankie broke the rules and told Zach he's going up and it's trending That's supposedly against the rules and production is supposed to enforce that Frankie renoms someone else. But I think that Zach is over the game like Candice was last season. I wouldn't be surprised if Zach just hops off the wall on Thursday and goes to jury. It's clear that production is against him. The houseguests are against him. No need to stay fight a losing battle.

Thursday/early Friday will be the deciding factor as to whether or not I'll give up this season for good. If Donny or one of the returning jurors don't win HoH and nominate Derrick and Frankie, I am done. I refuse to waste my time watching and keeping up with a show with no power shifts.

Not much else to add, everyone else has pretty much said it. The way they're treating Zach disgusts me. Derrick and Frankie are terrible people for doing this to him.

I'm about done with the show too. It all depends on who comes back and who wins HOH.

The Battle of the Block has helped ruin this season too. It changed the way the game is played and I don't like it. In theory, I like the idea behind battle of the block and I was willing to give it a shot. I still am, but this cast figured out how to use to get their alliance to dominate. Which I doubt is what BotB was intended to do. I guarantee you it was designed so one alliance WOULDN'T dominate. Of course, like every BBUS twist, it failed. Like they all do. It sucked because if there were normal HOH's and say Donny and Nicole won they could have actually put a dent in that alliance, but everyone was too scared to to do anything all summer because of this stupid twist. Just like Cody was too scared to backdoor Caleb. So they wasted their HOH's. I mean, Nicole wasted her HOH on Jocasta and Cody wasted his on Brittany. Siiigh.

Edited August 18, 201411 yr by KMan101

Zach is an !@#$%^&*] who basically tortured Victoria at the start. This whole poor innocent sweet perfect zach thing is bizzare. I like him, he's my fave this season, but he's played one of the worst games ever and deserves to go.

Derrick is one of the best players this game has seen and I hope he wins. Cody has played smart by sticking with Derrick. As has Victoria. They both know he's been running that house.

Ffrankie is an idiot if he gets zach out. He think he's this great player when he's really just average.

Watch Caleb win.

I don't mind BOTB but it's gone on too long. It also should have been saved for an all star season to throw them all off their game.

I'm annoyed that someone is coming back this late into the game. I don't mind ppl coming back pre-jury, but post jury it shouldn't happen IMO.

Well blame BBCAN for post jury returns. BBUSA saw how successful Gary's return was and they've been trying to emulate it since.

And many past hgs are confirming that the "renom rule" is fallacy. Boy when Zach is nominated, his rabid fans are going to torture the f*ck out of production, CBS, and Frankie/Derrick/Cody/Christine.

No one this season other than Derrick has played a good game. No real reason to single Zach out.

Zach has some problems with not respecting women but you can see he has a good heart and just needs to grow up.

Frankie has no heart. He is a sociopath. He is a monster.

Beyond all of his verbal and emotional abuse toward Zach after the POV ceremony, he decided before the POV ceremony to wake Zach up and lie that he might keep him, so he could hear Zach beg. He then went to laugh with that bitch Christine about how Zach had begged him, and told people around the house. After the ceremony, when Zach confronted him, he claimed he'd just been trying to show Zach that he loves him so much!!! It was one of the most petty, cruelest things I've seen ANYONE do on this show to a supposed friend.

Look at the tweets he's getting for his HOH. All hate. All hate. Vile.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/hohsuitespot?f=realtime&src=hash

Derrick is one of the best players this game has seen and I hope he wins. Cody has played smart by sticking with Derrick. As has Victoria. They both know he's been running that house.

Victoria has spent most of the game thinking he's all alone.

Cody played stupid by working so closely with Derrick. Derrick sent out most of Cody's allies and other than the adulteress, no one left likes or respects Cody much at all. People like Zach who used to love him now see him for what he is - a gutless wonder.

He can only beat Victoria or Christine in a jury vote now.