I say have sharon confess to the crime. Then have them redo the tests to find Jack is the father. Then have them question whether Sharon actually did it or not. Look through security footage and have her NOT be found, i.e. She was hallucinating.

As for Phyllis' fall down the stairs. Since Sharon didn't push her, let's not even play that beat. Let it never come out.

Ideally, I would want Y&R just to drop the whole matter, you know? Just do for this entire story what they did for years about Brad Carlton's secret past and Phyllis running down Christine and Paul (among other things) until some yahoo decided it just had to be rehashed. (Although, in this particular case, I would hope that never happens, lol.)

But, you know, I'm down with your scenario as well, ajsp.

Edited June 6, 201411 yr by Khan

Still waiting on Devon to have his first onscreen love interest, get married, and have kids like everyone else. It seems impossible. But the writers have seemed to finally find another creative role for him besides angst to Lily's love life though. He is now Neil's foil and rival. The designated loser to Neil. A role that was formerly reserved for Malcolm.

I don't get that Devon is going to lose to Neil. There's no story there. Jmo.

Just to be clear, are we denying racism in Daytime TV here?

Even if we are, Neil and Sharon are two different types of characters with different roles on the show. It is a poor comparison. Neil should be allowed to grow beyond working under someone at this point. Sharon was never anything other than a romantic heroine. Neil was never limited to just that.

Racism exists in ALL of Hollywood, prime time, film, daytime, you name it. It's the ultimate liberal hypocrisy. Primetime is especially awful - take a look at Shemar Moore. How many black co-stars has the CM team had in its nine seasons? Exactly. I don't watch the show, but I see the promos, etc. Revenge? OUAT? Law & Order SVU? on and on. I rarely see diversity on these shows. It's pathetic, really. There are so many wonderful talent AA/Latino actors out there and several roles - like on a procedural some soapy dramas, color is irrelevant.

I don't get that Devon is going to lose to Neil. There's no story there. Jmo.

He has already lost to Neil. The fact that she is with Neil makes it a loss for Devon even if he and Hilary do get together. I know this is a soap and family partner swapping is a staple, but I don't see Devon and Hilary having the writing or investment from TPTB to make them work "after the fact". They are barely on as is and the writing is very shallow. I don't see that changing.

Racism exists in ALL of Hollywood, prime time, film, daytime, you name it. It's the ultimate liberal hypocrisy. Primetime is especially awful - take a look at Shemar Moore. How many black co-stars has the CM team had in its nine seasons? Exactly. I don't watch the show, but I see the promos, etc. Revenge? OUAT? Law & Order SVU? on and on. I rarely see diversity on these shows. It's pathetic, really. There are so many wonderful talent AA/Latino actors out there and several roles - like on a procedural some soapy dramas, color is irrelevant.

Oh okay. Now I am wondering what point you were trying to make with your initial post then?

Ideally, I would want Y&R just to drop the whole matter, you know? Just do for this entire story what they did for years about Brad Carlton's secret past and Phyllis running down Christine and Paul (among other things) until some yahoo decided it just had to be rehashed. (Although, in this particular case, I would hope that never happens, lol.)

But, you know, I'm down with your scenario as well, ajsp.

I would love if we drop and transition away from it too. But I don't think that would go over well with the audience. It has gone on so long and been so tedious that dropping it at this point is not really an option.

Edited June 7, 201411 yr by ajsp35801

Racism exists in ALL of Hollywood, prime time, film, daytime, you name it. It's the ultimate liberal hypocrisy. Primetime is especially awful - take a look at Shemar Moore. How many black co-stars has the CM team had in its nine seasons? Exactly. I don't watch the show, but I see the promos, etc. Revenge? OUAT? Law & Order SVU? on and on. I rarely see diversity on these shows. It's pathetic, really. There are so many wonderful talent AA/Latino actors out there and several roles - like on a procedural some soapy dramas, color is irrelevant.

IMO, primetime is better than daytime when it comes to their treatment minority characters and primetime still has many issues. I remember Criminal Minds had a black girl take JJ's place when she went on maternity leave and some of the anatognists have been minorities.

Primetime has had it highs and lows when it comes to POC. I knpw when a primetime network is just starting up, often times use black audiences by having black shows to build their brand and discard them once their established. Fox, WB, and UPN did this. I could go into greater detail about primetime and POC but I don't want to get sidetracked.

I miss UPN

I miss UPN

Me too. Half & Half, One on One, The Parkers, & Girlfriends ... my shows!

One on One, that show made me love Kyla Pratt a whole lot besides her role on The Proud Family

It seems that OWN is taking that route as well.

Is there a lot of work to do on daytime as to people of color? Yes.

Still, I find it ridiculous that these "racism on daytime" posts almost always pop up on YR threads. YR does better by black characters than any other soap and gets the most grief for it. I just don't get it.

Some of you keep saying that black characters "don't get their own story," pointing out that they end up in a s/l with white characters. Huh? So you want black characters on a story island somewhere, not interacting with other races in town? That makes no sense to me at all. I want African American characters fully integrated with other characters on the show.

The problems at YR are many. EVERY storyline has problems.

I dont follow YR on a regular basis I just keep track of the show as I do most of the remaining soaps on the air.

I followed it a bit more this week but since im in canada we got one episode earlier than in the state. I wont comment on friday's/monday show until it airs in the US.

I have noticed that the guy who plays Austin briefly played ActorNathan on OTH and i suspect there might be a trend lol. On Days, they hired CM who played actorLucas on OTH, yr got ActorNathan. Im expecting actressBrooke to pop up on BB any day now.

Is there a lot of work to do on daytime as to people of color? Yes.

Still, I find it ridiculous that these "racism on daytime" posts almost always pop up on YR threads. YR does better by black characters than any other soap and gets the most grief for it. I just don't get it.

Some of you keep saying that black characters "don't get their own story," pointing out that they end up in a s/l with white characters. Huh? So you want black characters on a story island somewhere, not interacting with other races in town? That makes no sense to me at all. I want African American characters fully integrated with other characters on the show.

The problems at YR are many. EVERY storyline has problems.

This post from the HAHN thread should posted over here.

" Because black people are on tv we're supposed to excuse bad writing, acting, and casting."

I agree with you that Y&R has other problems besides the storylines of black characters.

Some of you keep saying that black characters "don't get their own story," pointing out that they end up in a s/l with white characters. Huh? So you want black characters on a story island somewhere, not interacting with other races in town?

Not necessarily. Integrating the AA characters with the rest of the cast is fine. Putting them in a secondary or subservient position in a storyline driven by their Caucasian counterparts isn't.

This post from the HAHN thread should posted over here.

"Because black people are on tv we're supposed to excuse bad writing, acting, and casting."

Yep. Pretty much.

One flaw with this...There is no mention of anyone with any color. Do they not matter. While we mention Scotty, there is no mention of Nate.

I got this from another board

*young and the restless 2014

This is supposed to be the future of the show. The show is called The Young and the Restless. Your de-aged vixens arent the young ones. Make us care about Abby (Melissa Ordway). Settle Summer's (Hunter King) paternity once and for all (she should be Jack's). You've got Camryn Grimes back. Figure out Mariahs backstory and stop putting it off. Why on earth is Max Ehrich (Fen) on recurring? Give this kid a storyline that doesn't have him steal pills from the hospital. Where is Lauren's (Tracey Bregman) other son Scotty? And please give Noah Newman (Robert Adamson) something to do. Victor Newman's grandson should have been raised to hold down a job that wasnt behind a bar.

Bravo! well said and ITA the young crew is lacking with Nick chilling back out of Newman Industries, Victoria is MIA in business she' in baby / family mode....Noah is the one, there should be one Newman at Newman.

What happened to Kyle? They can use more Abbotts.

Also agree re: Nate and even a recurring Olivia for a strong story arc from time to time would be a welcomed addition esp since Dru isn't on the canvas ... Nate should be how old now? For some reason I kept thinking Leslie would unknowingly wind up with Nate as that husband since he's a doctor.

Neil needs to be a powerhouse by now in his own company...was sorry when they took Indigo away from him; I really liked him owning that club for some reason. I'm wondering what they are going to do with Tyler now that he's broken up with Abby...Mariah?

WoW there is a HAHN thread here? I'm a fan of the show let me mosey on in....

Edited June 9, 201411 yr by Cyberologist

I've always thought it was stupid not to utilize Olivia and Nate when they know how much people want Dru back. Hell, a properly recast Malcolm could be helpful as well. Let's face it, Shemar Moore is NOT hard to recast. Especially when you consider how hard it is for black actors to find work. They could've easily found a handsome, charismatic male to play Malcolm successfully. Plus Olivia has ties to the Abbott's, the hospital and the Winters family. Nate has endless potential, especially with the doctor setup. Also having Olivia would at least give you the second most successful black female the show has ever seen.

And I'll say it again, if Olivia was played by a white actress she would've returned with a story by now. Period.