Members SFK Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 Wasn't there an adult Billy before DT? Or would he be considered a teen? I seem to remember a dark-haired Billy in the late '90s/early '00s, but maybe that guy was after DT, my memory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 David Tom was the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 It was David Tom as the first teen/adult (perfect) Ryan Brown (meh) Scott Seymour (wtf?) Billy Miller (barf) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 Who was Ryan Brown's Billy paired with? I just looked up the other actors and I think I'm remembering him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cassadine1991 Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 DT played Billy in the late '90s/early '00s, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cassadine1991 Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 Kelly Kruger's MacKenzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 He only worked with Kelly Kruger as Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 Thanks, I'm not exactly sure who I'm remembering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 I just can't see how he can be not a right fit for what is his character. This whole idea reminds me of how on FRIENDS Joey had to audition to see if he would be right as Dr Drake Romoray on DOOL--the role he previously played. It was fodder for comedy in fiction because the whole idea is so bizarre in real life. It would be like if they did a new Brady show now as adults and the producers decided Maureen McCormick was all wrong to play Marcia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThePrinceOfSunspear Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 LMAO...the first thing I thought when I saw the pic was "WTF...they replaced Billy Miller with that?". I wasn't a big fan of Miller's acting towards the latter half of his tenure on the show but he def wasn't flabby or bad to look at from day to day...this guy was bland as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dio Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 this whole thing is such a mess... Billy Miller will likely be back in the role by years's end, out of desperation for a paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 Absolutely. They were not writing Billy for David Tom and that is where this all starts to unravel. David Tom's Billy was Jill Abbott's most prized possession, the son she adored, her second chance at motherhood, of getting something right in life, at proving her worth through her child. David Tom's Billy was, really, an extension of Jill Abbott. And like Kate and Lucas Roberts on DAYS, the whole point of the child is to bolster the mother, serve her storylines, serve her character. Sometime before Billy Miller's Billy the decision was apparently made that Jill Abbott was never getting an A-storyline again and that she would support scenes written by that hack bitch from the depths of hell LML featuring that down under wonder Cane. And that's when the purpose of the character of Billy changed. He became a rapidly aged character, a leading man, hardly shared scenes with Jill, let alone the other Abbotts and went into the Newman orbit, married Victoria and had all these crap storylines that didn't fit the character's origins. So many characters have been destroyed since 2005 when this show left the control of Bill Bell's team. The ones that have gone largely ignored (Jill, Ashley, Tracey and Neil spring to mind) are the lucky ones because they haven't been truly gutted. Y&R is a husk and decisions like these only made it more evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted May 25, 2014 Members Share Posted May 25, 2014 We are talking about two different things: Current headwriters, which vary from hacks to mildly talented (but still unable to handle daytime drama) write by committee, think the audience will, or at the very least should, adore their stories, and don't care about the show or its viewers unless there is such a massive outcry and/or ratings decline that the network forces them to shape up--temporarily. But, in the end, it will be the same old, same old. Writers of Bill Bell's caliber could best be described as "not caring" for their viewers' thoughts and feelings. By which I mean, they had such vision and were so talented, that they "didn't care" if the audience was complaining because they knew--they just knew--that, once the story reaches a certain beat/point, all will be revealed/understood and the audience will LOVE it. They knew not to give the audience the easy gratification but to give it what it needed. They had their finger on the audience's pulse, whether by instinct, or by fanmail and such. And most of the time, it worked. When they truly made a mistake (Katherine is a lesbian, Christine/Victor romance, Nina's baby dying, among other examples), they heard the audience and REWROTE. But this attitude should only be employed when you are a talented writer. Funny that--the talented, genius writers are willing to change course when it was truly warranted but the hacks stick to the same crap with almost pathological stubbornness. Absolutely, 100% spot on. David Tom can hardly be blamed for not succeeding in a role that is Billy Abbott only in name. The character was massively rewritten to the point of being completely unrecognizable. It has nothing to do with growing out of it. On top of that, he had to work with a zombie of an actress who made it clear publicly she was tanking her scene partner. I just hoped they would afford a freakin vet, the originator of the character, the same millions of chances they afford other less (much less) talented actors and characters. It's a shame, really. Billy's arrival in Genoa City, and what that meant for Jill, were HUGE stories and affected a big part of the canvas. To see the blatant disrespect for that chunk of the show's (his)story in favor of a grinning ham with perpetually unzipped pants is saddening, to put it mildly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted May 26, 2014 Members Share Posted May 26, 2014 DT was doing an outstanding job once again as Billy. It's not his fault he doesn't have chemistry with vampira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted May 26, 2014 Members Share Posted May 26, 2014 Wait a minute -- Papa Bell actually attempted to pair The Mustache with The Bug? I totally do not remember that! Wow. He really did love his daughter, didn't he? (Either that, or he was looking for a really good reason to get her away from the show, lol.) Now, I'm not suggesting viewers should rally around BJ regardless of his talent level. Definitely, give the guy a chance to prove himself. If he sucks, then pray TPTB will show him the door as well. (Of course, as I think I have suggested up-thread, if BJ flops, and TPTB still can't lure back BM, then that's pretty much the end of the road for Billy Abbott.) But if he's actually good...? Then, my suggestion is to beat the old drums as loudly as you can. Let TPTB know however you can that this Billy is a keeper, regardless of whether he has chemistry w/ AH. As fans, I think, we have to fight on the same level as the die-hard BM fans (w/o resorting to any "dirty tricks," mind you) because, chances are, BJ will be fighting an uphill battle with that contingent starting on day damn one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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