Ok, the delays aren't that bad. When I used to do episode counts for PASSIONS, you'd have contract players off screen for multiple months at a time. I'm pretty sure TC was off screen for five months in a row in 2006. FIVE MONTHS. Katherine and Martin got similar treatment. That year was particularly heinous. GH is not at that level yet.

Yea, that's basically the gist. Her contract had expired but she was re-negotiating. She was set to come back and it was supposed to be her in these scenes with Luke instead of Tracy. But something happened behind the scenes that no one seems to be privy of and they took her off the master cast list and poof, she was gone, likely for good.

Oh, I remember how bad Passions was. I watched that show nearly every day from the start heh, I agree, it's not NEARLY as bad, I was being a tad dramatic, but it's still just as frustrating. I guess I just knew how JER was and what Passions would ultimately be like that it didn't bother me but it was beyond ridiculous how long and how many ways that man could stretch a story out. He beat every beat to DEATH.

I remember that year of Passions and I think that was one of the years I tuned out for a good while. Wasn't TC, Liz, etc. just dumped? But not to turn this into a Passions thread ... lol. I remember one day lasting what felt like MONTHS.

EDIT: Thanks for the Genie clarification, Brett.

Edited October 15, 201312 yr by KMan101

I see Todd and "Derek" going round and round about Carly, who's nearly ceasing to exist as a character in her own right, IMO.

BINGO! You nailed it Andrea. I've been seeing the same pattern and I saw it with OLTL and I stopped watching that under his pen too when he kept pulling the same crap though it feels far worse on GH. I'm all for a clever delay, I can deal with a few Passion-esque delays, I kinda lol at them and don't mind, but I feel like his writing is nothing but delay after dealy, then a rushed resolution. I knew the baby story would be totally sidelined. I should have known AJ's would be too, but I really felt they were going to do him justice.

Sigh.

I don't really mind Genie, and I feel bad if she was just dumped for no reason, but the show has way too much going on and they aren't servicing everyone correctly (lol, that sounds dirty ...).

We ended up going from baby drama/AJ framed for Kawny's murder (both not bad stories, mind you, and some I actually didn't hate watching) to Ava banging Morgan (when did Bryan Craig actually get hot?), Sonny's now all better? etc.... I can't even keep up.

EDIT: And don't even GET me started on that mask Dr. O wore as Anna. I admit to not seeing that coming (until they kissed and 'Anna' didn't murder him right there) but that's the WORSE. I hated how JER used that on Passions. It's the one trick I really just HATE and think is so completely implausible. Amazing how wearing a mask everyone can change their height, their weight and their accent! I'm ALL for stretching my imagination and I overall didn't HATE Faison masquerading as Duke, as ludicrous as it was, simply because the resolution was quite entertaining, but even then ... it's lazy.

Agreed with all this. The way Carlivati does classic soap "Make 'em wait" is lazy--and increasingly so and it does really feel like it's based on one of JER's worse traits. There rarely even is really any progression--which is how these stories should be done--instead it's just constant fake-out with the characters and story remaining basically where it was in a holding patter until we get a rushed conclusion and than those stories and characters are all but forgotten about.

And I already talked about how much I hate the Mission Impossible masks but I agree with you completely. GH has had silly action/adventure plots with super villains for over 30 years now--so I expect that. But the fake masks are so lazy, because they don't even work in a suspension of disbelief way the way plastic surgery does (at least for me.) Nobody would think someone with rubber hair was someone else--and agreed about the voice and size. Add to that how did Dr O even have time to get a mask made to look like Anna? At least with Faison he had that masterminded for months. And as I said before, it gives the show absolutely no stakes--if anyone could feasibly at any time be wearing a mask and be in disguise, then who cares? They could just say that--I dunno--Tracy was actually Heather all this time or something.

EM, just you wait til Derek is revealed as Lorenzo Alcazar, who's apparently a regular at Hair Club For Men.

Exactly Eric. He's lazy and tries to pass it off as "rotating" stories, which I guess IS true, but it's ridiculous. I mean the show has like 50 characters at this point.

And not to mention he's really writing for nearly everyone BUT the GH cast (I don't want this to turn into a Llanview 3 debate). Leslie Charleson and Monica get scraps (every other month or so, even when it, you know, makes SENSE to have her on) probably because he likes her. Jane Elliot and Tracy are only on because they sidlined Genie.

Where's Kin? Where's Lynn Herring? Jon Lindstrom? I know they're "recurring" but what happened to Lucy and Kevin's kids coming on? Not that we need them at this point.

Sean Kanan got a nice chunk of time off (because Ronald has Todd and Derek to write for now -- subtle Ron is not). Hopefully he's taping? Anyone know?

Emme's a good actress but I'm still not thrilled with her Lulu and it's clear he has no idea what to do with Dominic Zamprogna or Dante (who, aside from when he first came on and was the be all end all, isn't a bad character at all). Lulu and Dante are totally wasted on wanting a baby. Maxie looks awful. Spinelli has always been awful.

And it's like whiplash. A few months ago it looked very likely that Laura/Luke would of course work together/get together (not that I cared) but now it's Luke professing his love for Tracy and offering her the "whole enchilada". Yuck. I actually wish I could like them together but Tracy is awful when she's with Luke. And to know this should have been Genie/Laura? Just makes it ring even more hollow. Like when Luke was supposed to find Robin. Thankfully that was accidentally corrected by having Tristan 'fill in'.

I mean, everything just seems backwards.

And I just cannot sit through a Michael/Sonny scene. They are TERRIBLE. I feel like the writers just struggle to write them together and it shows. Not to mention Mo is just so awful lately and it looked like Chad Duell had eye shadow on today.

LOL Andrea ... I had a good laugh at that. But shhh ... don't give him any ideas because you know he'd run with that ish.

Oh, and again, do Carly or Liz even exist as characters on their own? I think he likes them so they get scraps and they make their crap work because they're good actresses, but this show is beyond a mess.

And Heather just able to frequently escape? GMAFB. And do they put crack in the BLTs at Kelly's? Seriously, it's a B.L.T. They ARE great, but really?

Oy. I need a drink. LOL.

EDIT: And that's not to say I didn't initially like Obrecth (who's a joke at this point, even if I do laugh at her and she has some good lines), Britt (well, I like her now), or even Ava and Derek, but he just overkills them. I'm already sick of seeing Maura West and I like her (though the way she was talking as Ava was really annoying). Same for William deVry, shirtless or not.

Edited October 15, 201312 yr by KMan101

I agree that the cast is too big and it's getting even bigger. They just did final screen tests for four new characters, just started casting two other new characters, have a soras/recast coming on, and more people coming back. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Tracy and Luke have always been awful with each other. They bring out and celebrate the worst in each other and have since day one of this putrid pairing. I can't tell you how much I resent the fact that Laura could be in Tracy's place right now and TG would get his classic, REAL Luke and Laura with the two of them foiling Jerry and going off together to investigate.

Instead, we get Tracy making a laughable attempt at being an "adventurer." I'm so embarrassed for JE watching what's been done to her character, first sucking up to Frodd to get AJ booted out of ELQ when the REAL Quartermaines would have been horrified at the idea of Frodd in the company and put their differences aside (temporarily, of course; these ARE the Qs after all) to band together against him. Tracy holding a gun is just so ridiculous.

When do we get back to the Robin story?

Edited October 16, 201312 yr by katie_9918

I agree that the cast is too big and it's getting even bigger. They just did final screen tests for four new characters, just started casting two other new characters, have a soras/recast coming on, and more people coming back. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Thanks for the scoop ... I just have to shake my head at this. Wow. No words ...

Tracy and Luke have always been awful with each other. They bring out and celebrate the worst in each other and have since day one of this putrid pairing. I can't tell you how much I resent the fact that Laura could be in Tracy's place right now and TG would get his classic, REAL Luke and Laura with the two of them foiling Jerry and going off together to investigate.

Instead, we get Tracy making a laughable attempt at being an "adventurer." I'm so embarrassed for JE watching what's been done to her character, first sucking up to Frodd to get AJ booted out of ELQ when the REAL Quartermaines would have been horrified at the idea of Frodd in the company and put their differences aside (temporarily, of course; these ARE the Qs after all) to band together against him. Tracy holding a gun is just so ridiculous.

When do we get back to the Robin story?

+1 to all of this.

Edited October 16, 201312 yr by KMan101

Today's show was terrible. The boxing scenes were especially bad. That whole set needs to be burned and never seen again.

Tracy and Luke have always been awful with each other. They bring out and celebrate the worst in each other and have since day one of this putrid pairing. I can't tell you how much I resent the fact that Laura could be in Tracy's place right now and TG would get his classic, REAL Luke and Laura with the two of them foiling Jerry and going off together to investigate.

Instead, we get Tracy making a laughable attempt at being an "adventurer." I'm so embarrassed for JE watching what's been done to her character, first sucking up to Frodd to get AJ booted out of ELQ when the REAL Quartermaines would have been horrified at the idea of Frodd in the company and put their differences aside (temporarily, of course; these ARE the Qs after all) to band together against him. Tracy holding a gun is just so ridiculous.

When do we get back to the Robin story?

When do we get back to the Baby Falconeri story?!

I agree that Tracy looked foolish. It is impossible to imagine? No, but it just was poorly done and JE looked like a fish our of water.

Catching up on missed episodes.

Emma drew a picture and said its supposed to be Mommy and Elizabeth says it looks just like her. No it doesn't! That little bitch cant draw.

Olivia says that Robert and Anna had 20 odd years to get back together after Duke died and they didn't. Yes they did! They remarried within a year of his death!

Olivia says that Robert and Anna had 20 odd years to get back together after Duke died and they didn't. Yes they did! They remarried within a year of his death!

"Cartini" don't give a [!@#$%^&*] about any history on this show. They know nothing about Anna's past. It's a joke.

I agree that the cast is too big and it's getting even bigger. They just did final screen tests for four new characters, just started casting two other new characters, have a soras/recast coming on, and more people coming back. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Like who, damn this soap needs to cut down.on A LOT of.people

Terrible episode today.

Emma drew a picture and said its supposed to be Mommy and Elizabeth says it looks just like her. No it doesn't! That little bitch cant draw

Cheap, your continuation of calling little girls "bitch" is kinda disturbing.

Like who, damn this soap needs to cut down.on A LOT of.people

Every week I read about them doing screentests and casting new characters. And for all the screentests they are always doing there is an overall lack of chemistry on this show.