Jump to content

AMC & OLTL Get Summer Run On OWN


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 610
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

Not that I truck with them much but in the interest of all angles on a story, DC's take is (surprisingly) pretty rosy. Here.

I'm not sure their take on the pre-soap numbers is entirely accurate based on what else I've seen, but I wasn't looking that closely at those.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I wonder if OWN is paying attention and will make schedule changes. They need to drop all the repeats and air both shows back-to-back in 1 hour block. Then they need to repeat them later at night and have a weekly marathon. 4 episodes a day is confusing. Plus with such little promo (including NO promos showing footage from the shows), any ratings are good. They're being forced to fend for themselves. Unfortunately, I think if things don't improve OWN will look at this as a failure in the end.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

These numbers are not strong enough to talk anything past this test run. I am very skeptical about continuation of the shows past the run. Spin it any way you want and rationalize right and left, back and forth, and still at the end of the day, AMC will probably just have to stay on HULU for its lifespan to continue. Maybe the new writing team will have some new material that will try to generate viewers.

OLTL seems to be faring alot better with OWN and could be salvagable. OLTL has its matriarch with Erica Slezak and AMC does not have Susan Lucci due to unavailability. Key characters and MIA characters needed to strengthen the show are not on the show currently. No Jacob in the Cassandra storyline, the storylines are not balanced yet. Alot of things can turn away a viewer for so many reasons.

At the end of the day, All My Children just might be one of those shows that does better 4-5 days a week at 30-60 minutes each. AMC is a family based/community oriented themed show. The character emphasis and focus is fine balancing the family themes which does not exist with the reboot.

and to make things worse, PP has still not given any signals that there will be a 2nd season as of yet.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

That is actually one the first things they said a couple months ago - that they were already talking about "Season 2."

Why don't you just admit that the reason almost everyone around here is loving it but you and that you refuse to acknowledge that is because you personally hate the Angie/Jesse storyline, you hate anything that makes them unhappy and you are terrified that they will pair David and Angie? You're willing to tear the show down and spin imaginary scenarios where only AMC will have to be taken off the air just to stop that from happening.

In that sense, you're not actually being a fan of the show - just one couple.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

No I think it would be figuring out a better option- the current schedule is confusing and more repeats than anyone needs. Tweaking it really has little to do with the merits of the show.

They have made references to a season 2 but its not even 3 months into the first year yet. Right now they should be focused on their return to taping in August and Sept.

I'm not really sure OLTL is faring that much better on OWN- it seemed like they flip flopped on different days. OLTL might have closed the week a little stronger. Am I missing something? And though the shows have always been different, I think you could call both of them family based and community oriented.

And I'm sorry, I know you love Darnell but no one is tuning out on OWN because Jacob from The City which was cancelled in 1997 isn't there. Some diehards may wonder where he is but...no.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

What? Actually, I think the opposite. It would be a failure if they were not even slightly willing to test things like that (at the least try some sort of less confusing schedule.)

Linda said: "OLTL seems to be faring alot better with OWN and could be salvagable. OLTL has its matriarch with Erica Slezak and AMC does not have Susan Lucci due to unavailability. Key characters and MIA characters needed to strengthen the show are not on the show currently. No Jacob in the Cassandra storyline, the storylines are not balanced yet. Alot of things can turn away a viewer for so many reasons."

I hate this OLTL vs AMC argument but... OK, I know this is just your "opinion" but it's not backed up by ANYTHING. If anything AMC, for the most part, has apparently been doing better than OLTL but the difference--even in these OWN ratings, is really pretty negligible that to use a qualifier like "alot better" makes me just think you're making things up out of thin air.

And really, to have Jacob on AMC right now would clutter the show and confuse non The City/Loving viewers and newbies--I do think some mention of him should be made, though, and I dunno, maybe down the road they could bring him on for a bit (though I don't think it's needed.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Seriously--I loved The City, and I love that they are mentioning some of its history, but except for hardcore online fans like myself, I honestly don't know ANYONE who watched The City or even remembers it... It was nearly 20 years back, and got a tiny fraction of AMC and OLTL's numbers.

As Vee and Greens mentioned some mention of a Season 2 has been made--but seriously it is WAY too soon to expect an announcement--they haven't even started the second cycle of filming. Maybe when that's done for both shows you could reasonably expect some talk about the future--but...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

+1

It is still too soon to tell. I am sure in 3-4 weeks there will be improvement. Regardless, they have to start somewhere.

I don't think Susan not being present has anything to do with this. AMC is lower but I don't find it significantly lower besides Erica wasn't that prominent during the later years as she should have been.

Actually, with this potential Dimitri/Brooke/Opal story and all the Mirranda Drama and the Drama with Bianca and Kendall I think Erica's presence hasn't been this strong in a really long time. All those points I mentioned are Erica centric without Erica being there!! That said, on the OWN re-runs it is just the Miranda stuff but she still seems there in spirit so to speak.

Also, Linda, OLTL and AMC are both Family/Community based. AMC seems more community and OLTL seems more family but wasn't that how they always were? You can trace virtually to Vickie EVERY CHARACTER on OLTL directly to Vick or Dorian. Weather it is through one of there Kids, Nieces/Nephew's, or Siblings.

That said AMC has always been more Community.

One more thing. I challenge you to say 5 good things about new AMC becuse if you think about it, it really isn't the horror picture you make it out to be smile.png .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I agree with this assessment. The schedule never made any sense, and I don't quite understand why the very obvious, very simple concept of airing the shows in an hour block was passed over (or never brought up?). An hour at noon, an hour in the early evening. Done and done. As it stands, it's nearly impossible to simply watch the shows back-to-back.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Well, since I am a babyboomer, I have watched AMC since it's debut, before Angie and Jesse of the 80's.

There are many Angie/Jesse fans out there who love the SuperCouple, period.

I am watching because of my 40 plus years dedication and loyalty to the show.

If they were to cancel the show after Season 2, then whoever tries to spin bad ratings and numbers will be sad fans at the end of the day.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • I appreciate your POV and ideas here. I don't, however, trust Josh Griffith to make this anything like a good story. My guess is that much of it will be off-camera and that we'll have to be happy with Mariah retelling the nightmare in bits and pieces. Meanwhile, Tessa will still be strumming her damn guitar with Daniel. Ugh. I know I'm negative about this show. I am hate watching with every fiber of my being, and there's nothing about it that's working for me. I never recall Y&R being worse.
    • A batch of photos from Episode #67 which aired Thursday June 5 in USA. Some are scene pictures, and some are behind-the-scenes. https://www.paramountpressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/beyond-the-gates/photos?episode=25710 Posting because there's a pic of director Michael V. Pomarico; and a pic of director Steven Williford whose photo caption says "J. Steven Williford".
    • Please register in order to view this content

       
    • I think the gross ickiness is Josh Griffith's intention. At birth, Ian Ward stole Mariah from Sharon, so that Sharon knew only of the Cassie twin and not the Mariah twin.  Sharon gave up Cassie for adoption at birth, never knowing that Mariah existed. When Ian Ward stole baby Mariah, he had her be raised by a woman member of his cult. She grew up in his cult. Years later, after Mariah was an adult in Genoa City and had left him, he tried to kidnap her to marry him himself, I sort of remember some icky scenes where he had arranged a wedding, but she escaped or was rescued -- it was so gross that I chose to forget it, and I don't want to look up the details. Mariah is feeling traumatized/triggered by Ian Ward being in Genoa City several months ago, because he was obsessed with her, and he terrorized her loved ones, interacted with Tessa, and drugged Sharon, which ultimately resulted in the death of Heather -- causing the grief of Daniel and Lucy. None of that was Mariah's fault. But she was so horrified by what happened, that she feels she did something wrong that caused this hateful villain to continue to obsess about her.   Based on small comments that Mariah made recently, I think she feels completely worthless. I gather that when she was away on the business trip a month or two ago, all of what happened with Ian Ward and Heather's death just hit her all at once and she was mentally/emotionally collapsing, and just felt unable to call for help.  During the business trip she sat in her hotel room and spiraled more, feeling more and more worthless and afraid. Finally she started drinking at a bar, and that's when the creepy old man approached her.  By that point, she wasn't in her right mind, and started interacting with the guy.  Either she thought he was Ian, or she thought he was someone like Ian, and she would be *required* to flirt with him in a role play, and do what he commanded, almost like old programming being reactivated.  Or perhaps just simple self-loathing playing out. I don't know if the guy actually knew Ian or Jordan, or if he was a random stranger.  But Mariah's fear/loathing/subconscious chaos kicked in. And then... well that's as far as her flashbacks have aired so far. She can't bear to face the rest of whatever it was.  I gather that in the coming episodes, we'll (eventually) find out what happened next as we see more of the icky flashbacks. --------------- The rest of this post is only my speculation: I think that she felt like she was supposed to have sex with him but didn't want to, and may have tried to kill him instead. Or he r*ped her.  Or they didn't have sex at all, but it's all convoluted in her mind.  Something horrible happened but I don't think it was her fault.  If the man died, maybe she covered it up?  I really don't know, I'm just speculating ideas. At any rate, I'm totally convinced that this is NOT a conventional "cheating storyline" where someone willingly has sex outside their relationship. ----------------- This is basically Josh Griffith's obsession with dark storylines, creepy villains, and terrible writing of "mental health issues".
    • The most we ever saw was on the "Roger years" tape.

      Please register in order to view this content

       
    • Right. Literally for decades, soaps mesmerized their audiences with tales of romance, family conflict, class struggles, and recognizable interpersonal-relationship sagas. We didn't need relentless, heavy violence. We didn't need clones, mad scientists, extra-terrestrials and demon possessions. We didn't need gaggles of plastic himbos and bimbos pushing beloved vets off-screen. We only needed to see people whom we cared about, and the intelligent, moving progression of their lives. Flashy sets, gaudy gimmicks, and high-falutin' hairdos be damned. The characters and the words were important.
    • Absolutely! Brad should've simply moved on from Lunacy. There's no point of freeing her, if you're not going to at least make an attempt at redemption or incorporating her into the fold. It happened with Quinn, who committed quite a few felonies before become the Forrester Matriarch.  Heck, keep Lunacy in prison and have Poppy/Finn discover that she gave birth to twins - 'Sunny' could've come on with a clean slate and still had Sheila/Finn and all the other drama. It certainly couldn't have been worse than what we've witnessed with the destruction of $B.    
    • I would enjoy it if Swan popped up on BTG as an old one time friend/mentor of Anita’s for a cameo. This is just

      Please register in order to view this content

    • I had totally forgotten that Courtney story. I see Burton was already phoning it in by that point.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy