Members Darn Posted June 14, 2013 Members Share Posted June 14, 2013 There was none! Veronica still doesn't know jack. It was stupid and pointless and looooong. There are ways to write a scene where neither party learns new information and still have it be interesting but they have not mastered that. At all. I REALLY hope TP isn't writing this whole show by himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted June 14, 2013 Members Share Posted June 14, 2013 Episode 3 had 11 scenes and Episode 4 had 12! Most scenes were over five minutes, some over six! Which would be divine (for me) if they were written well To have something to compare to, the average primetime show does about 35 scenes an episode. 11 scenes is conservative even for a half-hour show! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted June 14, 2013 Members Share Posted June 14, 2013 I was going to watch again to count the scenes because I estimated about 12. Damn! I was right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted June 14, 2013 Members Share Posted June 14, 2013 Between the 12 minute long scenes and the horrific lighting this show is a dated looking mess. One of my biggest pet peeves is dark as hell lighting for scenes with people of color. The gay dude was blending into the couch at one point! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vanguardian Posted June 14, 2013 Members Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I didn't sense that they were going to kiss at all, despite my belief that Wyatt likely has as much sugar in his tank as Jeffrey does Veronica's reaction about the bracelet was understandable. There are some who say that she overreacted, but I get why she felt unnerved by Wyatt's gift to Jeffrey. Jewelry, IMO, is a very intimate thing. Think about it as though Wyatt had given Jeffrey a ring as a gift. It's just very intimate and Veronica reacted the way she did because she knows her son is gay and Wyatt's very intimate gift to him just added fuel to the fire. It sounds like Wyatt will attempt blackmail against Jeffrey because of his sexuality. I expect Jeffrey will beat Wyatt at his own game. Edited June 15, 2013 by Vanguardian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted June 15, 2013 Members Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) I cant stand Candace's trifling ass! I cant wait till the episode where she is finally murdered. Ho! Man the actress playing Veronica is awful! She makes bootleg Sally Spectra look like Meryl Streep. The two of them together and all that bad dialogue and stiff delivery was cringeworthy As far as Jeffrey goes: and I find it hard to believe that Candace is the only one that sees it (well prior to her saying something). I think the mother might know but is in denial. I like Hannah's friendship with Pilar Lopez-Fitzgerald Edited June 15, 2013 by Cheap21 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted June 15, 2013 Members Share Posted June 15, 2013 Tuesday's ratings...1.305 million, .5 (18-49) live + SD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted June 16, 2013 Members Share Posted June 16, 2013 I have no problem at all with the long scenes. It seems like people forgot how soap operas used to be back in he day before RC/FV(queens kings of the 15 second scene) and the plethora of commercial that are inserted now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted June 16, 2013 Members Share Posted June 16, 2013 It's not that the scenes are long -- it's that the scenes are long and nothing is happening except for repetitive dialogues and misplaced pauses that do nothing to advance story or character in any particular way. Let's not ignore that major point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted June 16, 2013 Members Share Posted June 16, 2013 long scenes arent bad if the dialogue is on point and the acting is good. Unfortunately that is not the case with this show 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted June 16, 2013 Members Share Posted June 16, 2013 I don't like FRons 15 second scenes. I hate the longer scenes on this show because nothing happens in them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted June 16, 2013 Members Share Posted June 16, 2013 Meh! The pauses were strange, but I didn't think the dialogue was bad. Matter of opinion, I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gray Bunny Posted June 16, 2013 Members Share Posted June 16, 2013 Yup... I agree... Good... Then you agree with me?.... Yes... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members difficultdiva Posted June 17, 2013 Members Share Posted June 17, 2013 The Backlot Interview with Aaron O'Connell aka Wyatt Cryer http://www.thebacklot.com/aaron-oconnell-on-tyler-perrys-gay-storyline-on-the-haves-and-the-have-nots/06/2013/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted June 18, 2013 Members Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) TBL: Scandal is a big show right now. Do you think viewers should compare that show with this one? AO: I think parts of Scandal can compared to our show but I think the way Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey operate, they always want somebody to take away something from the show. I think that’s the difference, the difference in Scandal and The Haves and The Have Nots is that there are life lessons and messages to be learned in every single episode and in every single character. LOL http://www.thebacklot.com/watch-bro-hunts-mo-on-new-o-show/06/2013/ Edited June 18, 2013 by EricMontreal22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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