Members Khan Posted August 28, 2012 Members Share Posted August 28, 2012 What does that have to do, then, with what I've said upthread about GUIDING LIGHT and TEXAS? I'm so confused. Thanks, frequentsoapfan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted August 28, 2012 Members Share Posted August 28, 2012 The reasoning about combining fans of both shows to make a stronger rated show (i.e. Texas and GL and OLTL and GH). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted August 28, 2012 Members Share Posted August 28, 2012 Ohhhhh, I see. I "get" what you're saying, then, R. It just went over my head. Thanks, Y&RWorldTurner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoyaltoAMC Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 When you think about it, it was odd that P&G let her introduce a southern family on GL given the commercial failure of Texas. I guess because Dallas was still extremely popular in 1982/1983, they decided to go with it at GL and chalk up Texas's failure to its airing on a failing NBC, bad time slots, low clearance, no boomerang viewers, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 Why do you have banners turned off, Khan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 The Buchanans had also been very popular on OLTL (although the ratings still weren't great on OLTL at that time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 Beginning to veer OT, but artistically, even commercially, the way daytime bit off Dallas just skeeves me out. So cheap and obvious. Not that I didn't love the Buchanans and the Lewises, but... How about a glamorous family of diamond rich South Africans with a less played out copycat concept and a less familiar accent to our American ears? In this day and age, I might do a family of nouveau riche Russians. Just more thinking outside the box. Anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 I can tell you right now that I won't. I didn't want Jack Smith back when the LML suckage was really setting in and I certainly didn't want LML back when MAB came aboard. The only place for Y&R to go is forward and I have hope for this new regime. I'd like Kay Alden to be brought back as a co-head or at least a consultant, I won't deny that. But we're getting a solid team IMO and I'm just happy to know that somebody out there cared enough to make a change at all. Hell, many were resigned to MAB being with Y&R until the end!! Amen. Jill has been my favorite character pretty much since I started watching in '92 so I'm relieved that JFP spoke to Jess and wants to use her. I'm not sure whether the spin we got during Jess's exit from she and MAB was true, true at the time, or total BS, as it seems JFP is alluding to. Whatever the case may be, she took the time to call her already and that's a positive. I sure hope so! I could deal with that. Exactly. They didn't hire Frank Valentini, they hired Jill Farren Phelps! GH was never known for sticking to it's budget and I don't feel that's why she was brought in at all. Have you actually followed JFP's career or just read about it on the internet? Jill Foster Abbott is the kind of character JFP gravitates toward and Walton the kind of vet that JFP returns to the forefront on her shows. Ok, just, no. ^^^See what I mean ZendallFan dragonflies? ***does a spit take all over DeeeDee*** Point me to this enormous fan following of people that want to "see more of Lesli Kay" that you speak of. I've never cared for her work and always got the feeling she became sort of a diva on the ATWT set at the end of her original run. I liked Donna's tenure more probably because I wasn't alive or at least able to watch Y&R during Rauch/Lemay. When I started, it was the show that came on after DAYS. I liked it but was more attached to DAYS's characters. Then when I got into SB, AW really started to seem like chopped liver. But during Donna's years, 88-92, I was truly and genuinely hooked on AW and thought it was the best writing I'd ever seen on the show. The long-term plotting was phenomenal, the stories well-told, and the fallout amazing. There were stories, like Steven's Paternity for example, that could have gone numerous ways and any of them would have been fruitful, yet Donna always seemed to make a surprising choice AND get the mileage of it. I liked it. She used the AW ensemble like other writers before her hadn't (and nobody who came after would ever do again). The sense of community was re-established and everyone was integrated. I can't think of anybody that was in a storyline island during her time there. Did she do anything groundbreaking or earth shattering? No. But she produced a solid soap, gave the show the stability it needed to continue on, and had an invaluable sense of who the characters on the show were. For me, that's why her AW tenure is so highly regarded- it's just an unfortunate coincidence that it happened while first ATWT then GL experienced major creative renaissances that AW was judged against (both at the time and now). But neither of those shows were nearly in the shape that AW was in when Swajeski got it. Who knows what she'd have done on AW if she inherited a show that was in the shape either of those two were in. Oh, and I almost forgot...... I LOVE YOU COURTNEY PHELPS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 Someone seemed to care at some point to bring Lemay back, but he was quickly forced out after the '88 strike, when Donna, who was a known scab writer and NBC exec usurped power. I really wonder what would've or could've happened had Lemay remained. I know some accuse Donna of using story projections he left behind, but who knows? Swajeski's AW was just safe generic soap to me that didn't hold up very well in the SoapNet re-runs I watched, IMO. I think what saved AW through some pressing times was a strong cast of actors and strong friendship dynamics between characters. AW always seemed like PGP's bastard child from the 80's on. Which is unfortunate, as it was once one of their proudest joys in the 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y&r_fan Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 I know nothing of Kay's ATWT work but B&B fans have been wanting to see more of Felicia for years. Personally I've never thought there was a need for the character on B&B but she'd fit right in at Y&R and already has ties to some Y&R characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 I think so, too. Plus, it's no secret how much PGP wanted to ditch, or at least de-emphasize, characters and families from previous eras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 Because it makes scrolling through and reading these threads a much easier job. Some people don't realize how difficult that can be when you have all these humongous banners that take seemingly forever to upload. It's also why I'm in favor of no animated avatars or gifs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 Fine. Just don't suggest again that she could take Drucilla's (or Victoria Rowell's) place. Because that's insulting on a number of levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoyaltoAMC Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 The ABC soaps (esp. the big 3) were on fire from the late 70s through about 1984, so I'm sure there were mandates EPs/HWs of the other networks' shows to ABC-ify their shows, meaning more youthful romance, super couples, faster plots, some gothic touches, action/adventure, and of course Tony Geary lookalikes. Suddenly the P&G shows, which had mostly been very traditional and family-oriented, started doing all these outrageous plots that went againt their grains. GL, at least under Marland, probably fared the best during this transitional period. SFT probably stumbled the most. I don't think AW during this period was as terrible as other have made it out to be, and I think its being on NBC, which was in such turmoil from sign-on to sign-off, really kept the ratings low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 Who were some examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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