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DAYS: August Discussion Thread

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His suddenly being written as being in denial again - for no apparent reason - makes no sense.

I didn't see denial so much as fearing that he won't be accepted. T disturbed him on a powerful level, and that would make him feel less safe being so open with himself, good or bad.

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I didn't see denial so much as fearing that he won't be accepted. T disturbed him on a powerful level, and that would make him feel less safe being so open with himself, good or bad.

Nothing of Will in recent times has suggested he even cares about being accepted. No one in his family had a bad reaction, and he lived solely for EJ's approval. It's just resetting a year.

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Depends on the story. I hated this story as soon as Will started terrorizing innocent kitchens and as soon as some clever (fired) writer decided he had to be the new Sami. Nothing I've seen has made me change my mind. I think it's the worst major gay story ever on a soap.

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Really? Will struggled with his sexuality for MONTHS. It wasnt a quick acceptance. I think he lived vicariously through Sonny, finding him as a comfort bc he wasnt ready to accept who he was and he was also very confused about things. He made being gay a bigger issue than it was and was surprised to see what a non-reaction he got from most of the people in his life as they all accepted him. Roman seemed to have a slight hesitation but that was minor and he never rejected him. This week however he faced his first bout of rejection in the form of his best friend T, insulting him, making him feel ugly about his choice and flat out rejected him. Thats not something Will has had to deal with before. Him questioning his sexuality makes sense given what just happened there.

I dont think its about him questioning it, bc he knows he's gay. He is just scared and not ready to face the negativity and hate associated with beign an out homosexual. T's rant was a huge slap in the face and wakeup call that unfortunately the world isnt as accepting as Salem USA. He hit alot of points as well which probably hit home when he told Will that his family and friends might not say it to his face bc they dont want to be rude, but behind his back are dissapointed and ashamed of him. He is feeling a bit of uncertainity now about the signals he projects and is ALOT more self aware of how people might percieve him and thats a direct result of T bringing attention to it. Makes sense to me

Totally agree but I was so pissed at Will today. Why not tell Sonny about what T told him.?? Will is so Sami.....its all about him...I mean Sonny has been there for him since day 1 and if Will didnt know why Sonny kissed him then he is clueless. I do wish Sonny had told him how he feels. I hated the whole taking advantage of me crap Will was spewing out. I was hoping Sonny would have told Will to go to hell.....was just hoping...never happenned...sad.....

Will goes to Marlena and he calms down and wonders if he still has a friend...hello Willl he kissed you.....he wants more.......

Was so happy to see Sonny flirting with Brian....yes Brian is hot.......Will seeing them would have been much better had Chandler Massey...ummmm....ACTED....his reaction to seeing them together was awful....all the time with his awful storyline with EJ really fucked up his acting.....ruined that scene for me....

Sonny needs to throw dump Will to the curb......

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The problem with Will living vicariously through Sonny is that during that time Sonny and Will barely interacted. When they did, Will treated him with contempt. The show put Will into EJ's orbit and shut down everything else. There's no going back.

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The problem with Will living vicariously through Sonny is that during that time Sonny and Will barely interacted. When they did, Will treated him with contempt. The show put Will into EJ's orbit and shut down everything else. There's no going back.

Will has pretty much treated him like a doormat. I still remember when he totally ignored him when Sonny wanted to hang out with him. I mean anytime Will needed an ear besides Marlena it was Sonny to listen. I thought he treated Sonny like [!@#$%^&*]. I say dump him Sonny. He is not worth your time.

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The problem with Will living vicariously through Sonny is that during that time Sonny and Will barely interacted. When they did, Will treated him with contempt. The show put Will into EJ's orbit and shut down everything else. There's no going back.

Sonny and Will interacted quite a bit before he came out. There hasnt been as much since he re-entered EJ's sphere in the last couple of months, but he and Sonny were onscreen together alot before that. I remember commenting on how they dropped any connection Will had with his former best friend Chad in favor of showcasing him then with Sonny isntead

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I mostly remember him whining to Sonny, but since Sonny had no life beyond a few brief appearances by gay men, it never felt vicarious to me. They took pains to make sure the characters weren't too friendly, like making sure Will wasn't at Sonny's coffee house opening.

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I don't get why Sonny likes Will. Why a gay man who's totally comfortable with who he is likes someone who's hostile and just a repulsive person as Will is. What on earth is so attractive about Will to Sonny? Brian is so much nicer and hotter than Will. He and Sonny should be a couple.

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Will has pretty much treated him like a doormat. I still remember when he totally ignored him when Sonny wanted to hang out with him. I mean anytime Will needed an ear besides Marlena it was Sonny to listen. I thought he treated Sonny like [!@#$%^&*]. I say dump him Sonny. He is not worth your time.

He should! WHY does Sonny even like douche-bag Will? Why should I as a viewer root for Will & Sonny? Will has never shown any concern for Sonny at all. We saw Sonny acting all worried trying to find Will, but did Will ever think about Sonny? First thing Brian said to Sonny was sorry about your uncle Jack, yet I bet that never even entered Will's mind.

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I get what they seem to be going for -- a hard reset to last fall. I suspect this is EXACTLY the story that was going to be told in the fall of 2011, except since Will already came out, they have to backpedal on that a little and make him fearful about "acting gay" or acting on his feelings. I can understand why everything's happening on an intellectual level, but it all feels very forced and abrupt. Although in a way, it does patch up some of the MarDar holes, like how Will was apparently hanging out at The Spot all the time even though we never saw it -- I liked how Sonny called him on it really being just one night, how he hasn't actually made a move to get involved with any guys, etc. I also liked that they dirtied Sonny up a little. This was the first time he's seemed obnoxiously pro-out, like, unsympathetic to anyone not just being out and proud. Some flaws could be a good thing. Although I tend to give these writers (all of them) way too much credit.

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Typically, the most exciting time for a head writer (/ing team) is the first month or so. GT & CW are off to an incredibly underwhelming start. DRT & MMcP really didn't bother with wrapping up DH's stories beyond those rushed rewrites, but GT & CW literally are just jumping into their content--it's very jarring. These Will & Sonny (and the Will and T) scenes should've had a week's build, or at least a few episodes, not two. We've had maybe three scenes of sexual tension with them, but ya, we needed to be provided with more motivation from Sonny.

The rest of the program is a sh*tshow for real. DRT & MMcP were inept at plotting, building, and structuring a story, but they grounded the show and provided it with some much needed substance (before stuff started getting SO freakin' random in Feb.) . . . and now I fear GT & CW's material is going to be random AND superficial.

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I get what they seem to be going for -- a hard reset to last fall. I suspect this is EXACTLY the story that was going to be told in the fall of 2011, except since Will already came out, they have to backpedal on that a little and make him fearful about "acting gay" or acting on his feelings. I can understand why everything's happening on an intellectual level, but it all feels very forced and abrupt. Although in a way, it does patch up some of the MarDar holes, like how Will was apparently hanging out at The Spot all the time even though we never saw it -- I liked how Sonny called him on it really being just one night, how he hasn't actually made a move to get involved with any guys, etc. I also liked that they dirtied Sonny up a little. This was the first time he's seemed obnoxiously pro-out, like, unsympathetic to anyone not just being out and proud. Some flaws could be a good thing. Although I tend to give these writers (all of them) way too much credit.

Today did feel like a reboot, complete with the Rafe/Sami "reconnecting" scenes, EJ back as Stefano's son and Dan/Jen redux

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So Ivette is Ian's mother - did we know that before? I guess Ian was suppose to be a Dimera and that's why he went after Stefano's family. And who's Paolo?

The repairing of Dan/Jen - I knew it was coming and was dreading it, and now it's here already. :(

The Sonny/Will scenes were awful too. They're just nothing rootable about them as a couple.

I wasn't disturbed by the Rafe/Sami scenes. Sami was trying to get away so he handcuffed her to a chair. It's not like he has a history of violence towards her like EJ does.

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