On DOOL, I think it was NBC or Sony that wanted McPherson/Thomas. Now we have NBC and Sony coming back in and installing prior Santa Barbara/Sunset Beach folks (Tomlin and Whitesell)

That makes is sound like either NBC or Sony (or both)are in majority full control and not Corday.

Which is what Sony's trying to do to Y&R and Bells?

Phelps is rumored to be joining the show as EP

Y&R you are truly doomed if this happens

http://daytimeconfidential.zap2it.com/2012/07/25/rumor-report-is-jill-farren-phelps-taking-over-as-executive-producer-of-the-young-and-the

I don't necessarily think she'd be worse than MAB. Y&R needs new blood

IMO fire the head writers and have Y&R with no official head writer. OLTL in 1999 had no official head writer for a whole year and so perfect opportunity to JFP appoint herself as ghost head writer. We had Ben/Blondie in 1999, Dorian hit and run against Jessica, Delphina, Sam/Nora/Lindsane, Sophia, Roseanne-Jessica-Will and tons of music montages. It was pure amazing stuff.

OLTL was absolutely dreadful in 1999

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That makes is sound like either NBC or Sony (or both)are in majority full control and not Corday.

Which is what Sony's trying to do to Y&R and Bells?

Which isn't accurate. Corday Productions is the legal majority owner of the show. Corday absolutely has to defer to Sony and NBC because of their respective production contracts, but at the end of the day DAYS is run by Ken Corday and everything has to have his approval.

Y&R, different story. The management agreement Bill Bell had ended with his death and Sony's been a very active part of the show ever since.

Look at how well B&B is doing. I'd try to cut a deal and get Kay Alden or Ed Scott back. People who don't understand what makes Y&R unique won't be able to help the show IMO.

Yes, an ultimate match if they had to have someone like JFP would be to pair her with a writer from the old Y&R guard. It would have been an interesting experiment to see how well they would balance one another out.

I could support JFP with Kay Alden/Josh Griffin as HWs, but this is just nuts. Hollywood Heights is also terrible and Griffin/Bell weren't a good team to begin with. It was very dull. I also wonder what this means for Jess Walton's return....

You would think SONY would stay clear of giving Y&R to JFP given how awful the ratings for Hollywood Heights have been. At this point, maybe Brad Bell should pull double duty, I don't always agree with everything he does on B&B, but he'd probably do better than anyone else.

I don't necessarily think she'd be worse than MAB.

I agree. JFP wouldn't necessarily approach Y&R the same way as GH or any of the other shows she EP'd. Y&R is about its vets and history and I'm willing to keep an open mind and give JFP a chance to deliver on that. I know this is unpopular but I also love the idea of a Josh Griffith return (as a writer, not a producer). His 2008 stint may have been boring but it was very character driven and he seemed to 'get' Y&R much more than the current regime - I think he and Sheffer could balance each other out well. And with JFP in charge of the technical side of things I think it could actually work out.

You would think SONY would stay clear of giving Y&R to JFP given how awful the ratings for Hollywood Heights have been. At this point, maybe Brad Bell should pull double duty, I don't always agree with everything he does on B&B, but he'd probably do better than anyone else.

The Hollywood Heights ratings are good for their network. I know they took a nosedive recently because of the whole Viacom situation but I've seen teen shows on network tv with lower ratings get renewed for more seasons.

You would think SONY would stay clear of giving Y&R to JFP given how awful the ratings for Hollywood Heights have been. At this point, maybe Brad Bell should pull double duty, I don't always agree with everything he does on B&B, but he'd probably do better than anyone else.

If Brad heading two shows isn't practical, cut Alden loose to return to Y&R. Maybe Jack Smith too. They were schooled by Bill Bell. They know Y&R's unique way of telling story, and know the history of the show and characters better than anyone. Bringing someone like JFP as executive producer would only work with a strong head writer or head writing team. She has no history with Y&R. I'm not sure she would ever get Bill's original creation unless some of the old guard returned.

I agree. JFP wouldn't necessarily approach Y&R the same way as GH or any of the other shows she EP'd. Y&R is about its vets and history and I'm willing to keep an open mind and give JFP a chance to deliver on that. I know this is unpopular but I also love the idea of a Josh Griffith return (as a writer, not a producer). His 2008 stint may have been boring but it was very character driven and he seemed to 'get' Y&R much more than the current regime - I think he and Sheffer could balance each other out well. And with JFP in charge of the technical side of things I think it could actually work out.

I can't view JFP with an open mind, especially where Y&R is concerned. She's made a mess of too many shows in the past. Her track record is checkered at best. I think she did tremendous damage to GH, and there's nothing that makes me think she won't do the same at Y&R. As for Sheffer remaining: no. He's been a misfit at Y&R from the beginning. So much of his storytelling is plot driven at the expense of characters and their histories. Hamners out, Sheffer should follow.

I don't necessarily think she'd be worse than MAB. Y&R needs new blood

OLTL was absolutely dreadful in 1999

I don't disagree that Y&R needs new blood, but the EP's talents have to match the needs of the show they're heading. Nothing in JFP's career so far makes me think she would ever get a show like Y&R. It's nothing like the shows she headed at ABC, NBC or GL at CBS.

I can't view JFP with an open mind, especially where Y&R is concerned. She's made a mess of too many shows in the past. Her track record is checkered at best. I think she did tremendous damage to GH, and there's nothing that makes me think she won't do the same at Y&R. As for Sheffer remaining: no. He's been a misfit at Y&R from the beginning. So much of his storytelling is plot driven at the expense of characters and their histories. Hamners out, Sheffer should follow.

Oh I agree that Sheffer should go too. I just meant that if he IS staying, it's good that Griffith will be there to balance him out.

The Hollywood Heights ratings are good for their network. I know they took a nosedive recently because of the whole Viacom situation but I've seen teen shows on network tv with lower ratings get renewed for more seasons.

You have said this but how do you know what is acceptable for Nick. Just because TLG had a .5 doesn't mean HH at a .09 is ok. It may very well be ok but I haven't seen any press releases from Nick bragging about the shows performance.

You have said this but how do you know what is acceptable for Nick. Just because TLG had a .5 doesn't mean HH at a .09 is ok. It may very well be ok but I haven't seen any press releases from Nick bragging about the shows performance.

Nick doesn't really do much promotion outside of anything non Dan Snieder produced. They didn't brag about House of Anubis(their other soap) either but that did well for them.

Just saying it's not a fail if it's making good ratings.

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