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I expected there to be some stunning revelation as to why Ronan couldn't have a relationship with Chance and Nina. Instead, it's he "owes them his life and he doesn't know how to handle that"? WTF! How about by not being a complete dick for no reason? Add a thank you to that and you're probably good. I swear, this show.

Although you cannot expect either Ronan or Nina to pretend as if she raised him...yeah, I don't get Ronan's issues either.

Michael Learned is no Jeanne Cooper, of course, but she definitely works as a soap matriarch.

I expected there to be some stunning revelation as to why Ronan couldn't have a relationship with Chance and Nina. Instead, it's he "owes them his life and he doesn't know how to handle that"? WTF!

I wish there were some way to reveal Ronan isn't really Nina's son. I still hate the fact that Y&R felt the need to pick up that loose thread. It colored so much of Nina's history, especially in regards to her relationship with Chance Phillip IV, I think resolving it has actually done more harm than good.

Although you cannot expect either Ronan or Nina to pretend as if she raised him...yeah, I don't get Ronan's issues either.

Michael Learned is no Jeanne Cooper, of course, but she definitely works as a soap matriarch.

But Nina does love him as much as if she had raised him, imo. Having your baby stolen is something you never forget. She wants a relationship with him, so I don't really see why he can't have some compassion for someone who grieved for him every day of his life. If he really doesn't want a relationship with her, he should leave town.

But Nina does love him as much as if she had raised him, imo. Having your baby stolen is something you never forget. She wants a relationship with him, so I don't really see why he can't have some compassion for someone who grieved for him every day of his life. If he really doesn't want a relationship with her, he should leave town.

"Agree" to all of that, Julia. I'm just saying I always expect there to be an element of awkwardness on Ronan's part since Nina came into his life again not that long ago.

I can see that and I agree with you that Nina should have never found her son. I think that's what BB wanted and that should have been respected. Nina even had some dialogue once about how stories can't always have a neat resolution. She was talking about her own writing, but I took it as a "message" from BB about Nina's story on the show.

I don't think they should have kept Nina from her son forever, I think the story could work. It just doesn't work with this writing team, and with Branson, who is very shut down as an actor.

The real idea of this story is that we're supposed to think Ronan is a man with balls for not wanting anything to do with his family. In Shefferland, family is garbage, and for wusses, unless of course, you are a patriarch and your family is too stupid to do anything without you (like Victor).

They have never had any idea what to do with Ronan. The only reason they likely even hired Branson is because he'd been on AMC with Reigel and Hendrickson. They've repeatedly thrown him into bad stories, and now, out of pure desperation, they've thrown him in with Phyllis and basically rewritten the character's entire personality for the sake of Phyllis.

When the only thing anyone likes about a character is fill in the blank "snarking" with fellow sociopath Adam, that's not saying a lot.

I expected there to be some stunning revelation as to why Ronan couldn't have a relationship with Chance and Nina. Instead, it's he "owes them his life and he doesn't know how to handle that"? WTF! How about by not being a complete dick for no reason? Add a thank you to that and you're probably good. I swear, this show.

Exactly!

But he's a Hogan Hero which means anything even remotely genuine goes out the window.

I don't think they should have kept Nina from her son forever, I think the story could work. It just doesn't work with this writing team, and with Branson, who is very shut down as an actor.

The real idea of this story is that we're supposed to think Ronan is a man with balls for not wanting anything to do with his family. In Shefferland, family is garbage, and for wusses, unless of course, you are a patriarch and your family is too stupid to do anything without you (like Victor).

They have never had any idea what to do with Ronan. The only reason they likely even hired Branson is because he'd been on AMC with Reigel and Hendrickson. They've repeatedly thrown him into bad stories, and now, out of pure desperation, they've thrown him in with Phyllis and basically rewritten the character's entire personality for the sake of Phyllis.

When the only thing anyone likes about a character is fill in the blank "snarking" with fellow sociopath Adam, that's not saying a lot.

Yep!

Speaking of Hogan's favorite pet sociopaths, its most clearly obvious that by next summer we'll see Ricky chasing either Lily or Abby in drag and causing a miscarriage.

I been watching old scenes with Ronan & Nina, I really like their scenes together. I hope he gives his family a chance, he seems almost likable with them. I still think Chance is better if they write for him.

Learned seems WAY too young to be Katherine.

Learned seems WAY too young to be Katherine.

Problem is they didn't try to give her the Cooper hairstyle. And in contrast to previous KayTemps she doesn't try to mimic Cooper's ringfinger ticks. Without this Kay is completely useless...

If Y&R is still around in two years, Delia will be old enough to marry Victor.

Watch.

If Y&R is still around in two years, Delia will be old enough to marry Victor.

Watch.

Two years?

Try 6 months.