Nikki's best or worst (depending on your point of view) parenting move was the wicked witch bedtime story to little Victoria. That lead to little Victoria telling Ashley "you're the wicked witch. Please don't take my daddy away."

On 4/7/2022 at 5:53 PM, Soaplovers said:

I'd forgotten Dru and diane interacted.  I think it was shortly after this that Diane was dropped.

Maybe I am becoming too socially conscious for my own good but did noone at Y&R pick up at the connotations of having a scene featuring a white woman hassling a black woman about touching/seeing her hair even after being told no?
 I know in context it made sense but that's a weird way to accidentally mimic a pretty common real-life microaggression without a trace of self-awareness

I have a random question, are any of the videos on the vault with Abby Dalton as Phyllis’ mother? I’ve always wanted to see that but have never come across it. 

On 4/8/2022 at 9:17 PM, slick jones said:

@Broderick @will81   I did a profile for the SOAP HOPPERS thread on Robert Gibson.   Is this the same actor that played David Mallory, the man that received Bill Foster's eyes? I haven't found a Y&R related picture (so far).

A good friend thinks it was him, but he's admitted he could be wrong.  Thanks.

 

I declare.  There don't seem to be many pics of David Mallory floating around!  

4 hours ago, Broderick said:

I declare.  There don't seem to be many pics of David Mallory floating around!  

Courtesy of Eddie Drueding's ANOTHER WORLD HOMEPAGE.

14 hours ago, FrenchBug82 said:

Maybe I am becoming too socially conscious for my own good but did noone at Y&R pick up at the connotations of having a scene featuring a white woman hassling a black woman about touching/seeing her hair even after being told no? I know in context it made sense but that's a weird way to accidentally mimic a pretty common real-life microaggression without a trace of self-awareness

No one on the writing staff, absolutely not. Victoria Rowell was the only advocate for Dru's blackness. And they quickly demonized her for it. Still do.

I really hate the way male characters spoke to women back then. Are Dru and diane being a bit unprofessional? This happened a lot back then, especially scenes with Dru or Phyllis, some man would enter the room and scold them like children.

Damon Porter mentioned in that Dru/Diane clip.
Fyi, his portrayer Keith Hamilton Cobb appeared as a judge on April 7, 2022 episode of Law & Order.

Christine & Michael! What do you guys think about this, and what was the general concensus back then? I think this would be controversial given that he attempted to rape her, reminds me of when OLTL's Todd & Marty almost got together, minus the amnesia.

Edited April 14, 20223 yr by ironlion

Christine and Michael and Paul raping Christine ruined her character. It’s sad to see what’s become of what was such a popular character. 

Agreed. I think when Christine left for Hong Kong at the end of 2000 (LLB leaving for her first of two extended maternity leaves), that was the end of Christine as we knew her. It didn't help that her bestie Nina left right at the same time.

 

3 hours ago, ironlion said:

Christine & Michael! What do you guys think about this, and what was the general concensus back then?

I thought it was so, so wrong back then; and I think it was so, so wrong now.

2 hours ago, Chris B said:

Paul raping Christine ruined her character.

Agree.  But it didn't ruin just Christine.  I think it ruined Paul as well.  In fact, I think the rape made it much easier for the show to marginalize him to the point where he's never seen or even mentioned today, which is a shameful thing to do to a character that was so front-burner BITD.

Christine being a procecutor and going against Sharon, Victoria, Nikki, and Phyliss for killing JT also didnt help. She used to stabd up for the abused now she's percecuting them. This is similar to Molly on GH procecuting Trina.

If Michael Baldwin had he retained his edgyness he would have been a better DA, if they kept him as an outsider charachter.

33 minutes ago, ironlion said:

Christine being a procecutor and going against Sharon, Victoria, Nikki, and Phyliss for killing JT also didnt help. She used to stabd up for the abused now she's percecuting them. This is similar to Molly on GH procecuting Trina.

If Michael Baldwin had he retained his edgyness he would have been a better DA, if they kept him as an outsider charachter.

And not to mention she was a good friend to Sharon starting when Sharon was raped by Matt Clark too. 

On 4/14/2022 at 5:02 AM, ironlion said:

Christine & Michael! What do you guys think about this, and what was the general concensus back then? I think this would be controversial given that he attempted to rape her, reminds me of when OLTL's Todd & Marty almost got together, minus the amnesia.

That storyline was part of Michael's redemption arc from villain to anti-hero. Christine and Michael should not have been placed in each other's orbit romantically after the sexual harassment/attempted rape from a decade earlier. 

On a totally shallow note though, CLB glowed up in 2002. That's another glow up we have LLB to thank for 🤣

 

Edited April 15, 20223 yr by kalbir

This may have been during one of my many quasi-breaks from daytime, so I have never really seen this stuff and I don’t think I really want to see that kiss, tbh.

I know that there was a time when Christine wasn’t many people’s cup of tea but she had some interesting face offs with Phyllis that began with her marriage to Danny into her relationship with Paul.
I was never a big Christine/Paul fan but but I do agree that having a marital rape scene and then trying to backtrack it as a generic “He Said/She Said story diminished her character and pretty much destroyed Paul. After that story, Paul’s days of being a leading man character were pretty much over and his days of being a viable character were numbered.

Paul didn’t need to be front burner but after that very unfortunate story, he seemed to slip even further down the chain to “talk to” to nonentity.

Edited April 16, 20223 yr by DramatistDreamer