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Remember in 2018 there was a flashback to Victor and Nikki's first Christmas together in 1981? In the scene shown Nikki mentions Victor having an unhappy childhood. Was this when it was first revealed that Victor grew up in an orphanage? I can't find any recaps from December 1981 that delve into the details of the Christmas episodes.

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9 hours ago, kalbir said:

Remember in 2018 there was a flashback to Victor and Nikki's first Christmas together in 1981? In the scene shown Nikki mentions Victor having an unhappy childhood. Was this when it was first revealed that Victor grew up in an orphanage? I can't find any recaps from December 1981 that delve into the details of the Christmas episodes.

The scene you mention is in the vault under '81 Clips - 12-24 Victor Nikki Christmas

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4 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

Michael Damian will be interviewed by Alan Locher tomorrow:

 

I can't wait to hear what he watched during lockdown just as he starts to discuss his storylines.🤣😅🤣

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6 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Ouch!

Didn't he interrupt Judith McConnell about her time on ATWT to ask her where in Manhattan she lived? I mean, nothing like changing momentum...😎

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1 hour ago, slick jones said:

Didn't he interrupt Judith McConnell about her time on ATWT to ask her where in Manhattan she lived? I mean, nothing like changing momentum...😎

He's just not a good interviewer. Shut up and let the guests speak, come on!!

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5 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

The scene you mention is in the vault under '81 Clips - 12-24 Victor Nikki Christmas

That's where I saw it. Maybe someday the full episode will surface and we'll know for sure if December 1981 was the first reference to Victor growing up in an orphanage.

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3 hours ago, slick jones said:

I can't wait to hear what he watched during lockdown just as he starts to discuss his storylines.🤣😅🤣

Y&R fans usually turn up for livestreams, regardless of who does them. Locher needs this kind of livestream to juice up his click counts since his view counts over the last several months have been exceedingly low.

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Probably the most I have read about this infamous behind the scenes moment outside of forums. Pretty detailed too. "learn your lines old man" LOL I kinda hope this is a real quote. Steam must have been shooting out of Eric's ears, haha. 

This article was from January 04, 1992 - not sure which issue of SOW it came from though

 

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34 minutes ago, will81 said:

Probably the most I have read about this infamous behind the scenes moment outside of forums. Pretty detailed too. "learn your lines old man" LOL I kinda hope this is a real quote. Steam must have been shooting out of Eric's ears, haha. 

This article was from January 04, 1992 - not sure which issue of SOW it came from though

 

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OMG! No wonder all the fights between Jack and Victor there 1992-93 felt so raw. When did Bell step in exactly to put the men in their places? 

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1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

OMG! No wonder all the fights between Jack and Victor there 1992-93 felt so raw. When did Bell step in exactly to put the men in their places? 

I had heard Bell was pretty swift and threatened to sack them both if it happened again. Not sure where I heard that though

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2 hours ago, will81 said:

I had heard Bell was pretty swift and threatened to sack them both if it happened again. Not sure where I heard that though

Yes I remember reading Bell allegedly said something that “he’d show them both who the real diva of the show was” or something  along those lines. I always felt like that’s why Jack & Victor ended up in completely separate orbits 1994-97. 

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4 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

OMG! No wonder all the fights between Jack and Victor there 1992-93 felt so raw. 

Yeah, it looked like they were ready to kill each other. I'd say their beef went back to 1989, the tension between them was visible from the onset, and I felt it was there until maybe 2005 or so. EB didn't really delve into details of the beef in his book, but he seemed regretful of it.

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45 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Yeah, it looked like they were ready to kill each other. I'd say their beef went back to 1989, the tension between them was visible from the onset, and I felt it was there until maybe 2005 or so. EB didn't really delve into details of the beef in his book, but he seemed regretful of it.

Yes.

To both men's credits, they have owned up to it, talked openly about it and how unfortunate it was and they both accepted their part of responsibility.

That being said, maybe I am naive but it is for me to understand how anything like this can escalate to blows. I mean, short of someone sleeping with someone else's wife or something very personal like that, disliking a colleague should be something you grin and bear.
I wonder what the real spark for this was - can't just have been excess of testosterone and professional rivalry for it to escalate so much.

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