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She there & they still not being seen 99.9% of the time, anyway. & you better believe that the new sista girl going to be sleeping with just the Winters guys. That's going to be the February Storyline, finding out that Devon, Neil, and Malcolm all be doing the same sista girl. Because she's all that & a bag of chips.

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I'm trying to catch up, just finished watching the 23rd and I strongly believe the Winters family could be fine with what you have now. There is Neil, Malcolm, Lily, Devon, Roxanne, Olivia and now Ashley. You have a good variety of personalities and each character has unique ties to the canvas. But even with what they have they don't utilize them (of course) and Lily's storyline is just a joke. How hard is it to put some makeup on her to make her look sick? It's just ridiculous how lazy this story is. You're telling me this woman is dying and she looks fabulous. Hell, I look closer to death after working 14hrs than she does!

I wish they'd at least give a little Olivia/Malcolm booty call or something. I still can't get over what an important couple they were and how little they interact now. It makes no sense at all.

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Jesus, Rauch. How long are you going to punish Kristoff St John for an interview that nobody remembers from, like, 2008? This is ridiculous. Instead of playing any possible beat from a potential Neil/Ashley/Fluckers triangle, we get: Neil hastily breaking up with Ashley after having reflected (offscreen) upon the birth of his new grandbabies that he needs to re-prioritise his (offscreen) life and focus more energy on changing diapers (offscreen), wringing his hands over Brave, Self-Sacrificing Lily (onscreen, unfortunately) and just generally being a hermit monk. Because my daughter needs me now.

Neil, here's a tip. Your daughter can barely figure out how to open a screw-top bottle. She's going to need you all. The. TIME. Doesn't mean you have to hook up a chastity belt.

Oh, and now he's just sold Indigo to Jeffrey & Gloria -- bet we'll be seeing TONS of that Indigo set now that Neil's not there. Y&R are so afraid of giving their AA characters anything to work with -- anything! Why are they so frightened? Is Trent Lott producing the show?

Nina is 2000 kinds of awesome. Her "I'm going to be sick" when Chloe and Chance announced their engagement was :lol:

Oh, look! Bianca and Maggie talking to Jonathan Lavery! Wonder if Jonathan is going to start beating Maggie up again and make her watch porn? How sad that Megan McTrash's awful AMC SLs from 2007 actually sound more intriguing than what Y&R currently has to offer.

God, Reigel is a rotten actress. She can't hold back her inane grinning even when she's supposed to be offended by Paul's inference that she's hot for Chance. Even Vail would have managed an authentically angry look.

Jeff Branson sounds like he is channeling Stephen Schnetzer in the way he speaks.

Billy Miller's bored, uninterested line readings as Jill talked about Liz and her death ("Yeah, sorry I couldn't be there") says it all. Obviously a veteran character's death wouldn't warrant the presence of Y&R's Most Beloved Young Male. They need him poking his chompers into the Lame SL so that he can show Daniel Goddard what AHHHHHH-cting is all about -- in a SL in which he plays no part.

Poor Jess Walton is once again dressed in some goodawful muumuu. Somebody in Wardrobe really hates her. And Graz's long, sad attempt at a mustache needs to END.

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Amen!

And word to the rest of your post: it seems MAB and team hates everybody except her pet story of LAME-cancer and Scott Hamner's latest ingenious courtoom/murder mystery crap.

As much as I love Jess Walton/Jill: she should have bolted last year, what they are doing with her is beyond criminal. Jeanne Cooper should knock some sense into Maria...

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If it were about artistic freedom the only people still left on the show might be Braeden, Stafford, Muhney, and their beloved Billy Miller. I think Jess might be one of those who is staying around because in this economy it's better to make some money than to make none or to have to go look for other work in an industry which declares women dead after age 40.

The show is just so empty. And when the mass firings start you can bet that this will be spun as MAB and Rauch nobly doing what they have to do because of evil Sony, and who cares about dead wood characters like Jill or Paul or Nikki anyway, and don't worry, at least "stars" like Chompers and other rejects of soaps that no longer had use for them will be able to find a job.

Since they do whatever they want anyway I'm still hoping they might rewrite Billy as being someone else's son. He can't stand Jill, he hates his father, he only cares about anyone with his last name if he needs a handout. Just let him become some Newman and if they are that desperate to prop his latest flop homance, then say Victoria is Kevin Bancroft's child. Then recast Kevin Bancroft with Crispin Glover (can't you see the resemblance?) and claim its a major casting coup.

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For some unknown reason, Hogan Sheffer's always had a hard-on for AMC. Don't know how much power he has in casting, but is it a coincidence that at least five ex-AMCers have joined the cast in the relatively short time he's been there? I don't follow the writing teams as closely as some of you guys do, but didn't he also hire some former AMC writers?

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MBJ would be an awesome Little Nate! In fact I'd say he is far too good to be used just every two months.

Yep. Amanda L. Beall is the writer who comes to mind. I don't know who the other one is as I don't keep up on these things.

I'm wondering if Sheffer/MAB/Rauch's hard-on for AMC has anything to do with the fact that both shows are timeslot rivals in many major markets. And with ABC having shoveled a shitload of publicity AMC's way over the past year, perhaps Y&R or CBS wanted to counter that with all these "fabulous" new hirings.

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