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Stop it now, saying someone is sassy is not calling them gay! He IS sassy! And it does not mean he's gay! And all Nene said was that Chris told her he was a dancer and actor on broadway, which would explain his boisterousness. Again, didn't insinuate he was gay. The only person who SAID that he was gay and brought that to the table was KENYA. Come on, y'all! You will defend this old bitch no matter how wrong her cratered ass is!! Lol I gotta give it to you for loyalty. 

Just like you'll defend Nene's big burly ass, Porsha's thottin' n boppin' ass, and Phaedra's prison peen humping ass. 

 

Where I from when you refer to a man as 'sassy' it means you are alluding or implying that he is gay. Stop trying to cut for these women while nailing Kenya to the cross for being honest. They ALL insinuated that he is gay. Kenya just said it. Even in their talking-heads they were throwing shade and implying it. Even people that like those three women you stay defending were on Twitter calling them out for being shady. 

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Stop it now, saying someone is sassy is not calling them gay! He IS sassy! And it does not mean he's gay! And all Nene said was that Chris told her he was a dancer and actor on broadway, which would explain his boisterousness. Again, didn't insinuate he was gay. The only person who SAID that he was gay and brought that to the table was KENYA. Come on, y'all! You will defend this old bitch no matter how wrong her cratered ass is!! Lol I gotta give it to you for loyalty. 

no offense but one has to be naive to not see the women were implying he was gay. When the word sassy is used in reference to a man, the implications are gay. You may not know it but these are black women living in Atlanta. They know

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I have no issue calling out when my favorites are wrong. It is absolutely shady of Phae, Porsha and Nene to be saying he was sassy or anything else (though I do feel that was mostly Phae). It was inappropriate. But for Kenya to outright say he's called "Chrissy" or that people have been saying he's gay for years, that's a whole new level and, as per usual, she crossed a line and has no class. But hey, when the whole cast hates you, I guess you need a storyline however you can get one! lol

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I have no issue calling out when my favorites are wrong. It is absolutely shady of Phae, Porsha and Nene to be saying he was sassy or anything else (though I do feel that was mostly Phae). It was inappropriate. But for Kenya to outright say he's called "Chrissy" or that people have been saying he's gay for years, that's a whole new level and, as per usual, she crossed a line and has no class. But hey, when the whole cast hates you, I guess you need a storyline however you can get one! lol


Really? You have no issue with calling your faves out when they are wrong? :rolleyes: C'mon now.

 

I don't remember you calling out Brandi for all the heinous things she did last season? Or a lot of the foul crap Nene, Phaedra, or Porsha have done in the previous two seasons. You've somewhat encouraged it. :P

 

Back to the issue at hand, they all crossed a line. They alluded to it and then joined in with Kenya chortling, which makes them just as guilty if not more. If it was an actual crime, they'd be considered accessories. 

 

The only people in the cast that hate her are Porsha and Phaedra. Nene doesn't hate Kenya. She's intimidated by her but I doubt she hates her. She even said last night she'd like to be friends with Kenya. Sheree doesn't care as she only wants a peach back at this point. Cynthia likes Kenya but fears Nene, and Kandi enjoys Kenya. Oh and there's Kim but who cares about her. She's irrelevant. 

 

 

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Kim did a fantastic job as a director!  The commercial seemed silly but Kim brought it. She was in control of the set and was directing really well.  She brought her vision to life!  Botox Bailey certainly made a good decision!  Kim was a force and it was a joy to watch. 

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Kim did a fantastic job as a director!  The commercial seemed silly but Kim brought it. She was in control of the set and was directing really well.  She brought her vision to life!  Botox Bailey certainly made a good decision!  Kim was a force and it was a joy to watch. 

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NBA you're right about Phaedra. She did call him Sassy and she was definitely implying that he was a little "Fruity" IMO. So she does deserve some of the heat. The only defense is that this is the first shady thing she's done towards Kim. That doesn't make it right at all but it is a fact. 

 

However no one least of all me is getting angry over Kenya. I just find her antics beyond stupid and think she should be called out on each and every one of them. 

 

Last night she looked like a completely petulant child. 

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NBA you're right about Phaedra. She did call him Sassy and she was definitely implying that he was a little "Fruity" IMO. So she does deserve some of the heat. The only defense is that this is the first shady thing she's done towards Kim. That doesn't make it right at all but it is a fact. 

 

However no one least of all me is getting angry over Kenya. I just find her antics beyond stupid and think she should be called out on each and every one of them. 

 

Last night she looked like a completely petulant child. 

That wasn't the first shady thing Phaedra has done to Kim. What about her dogging Kim on the sly in talking heads? For instance, the DC trip? 

 

It is obvious that these women don't care for Kim, hence why they were salivating over the alleged tea Kenya was dropping. Blogs have already spilled that the women don't care for Kim b/c she isn't a team player. Kenya just keeps it real with Kim despite being too harsh at times. The other women front and will slyly put out there that "Kim is nice but she doesn't fit well in this group (i.e. she doesn't belong on this show)." 

 

No one who is pro-Kenya says that she shouldn't be called out on her antics. She should, but many of you turn a blind eye to the equally heinous things the other women do. They are all damn messy and have to be to keep a spot on this show. That goes for all the housewives across the board. 

 

I agree she came off petulant last night for not supporting Cynthia but I wouldn't've supported Cynthia either. I would've been petty and got a boat with my fine ass man too. Cynthia didn't stick up for her the previous night at the dinner, so Kenya paid her ass in tenfold. But again, that's just me. 

 

I have no issue with calling Kenya out on her shady sh-t. I just don't pity Kim or Chris b/c both of them took shots at Kenya long before she did it to them so all is fair in fighting. 

 

Speaking of someone calling Kenya and the other women out: 

 

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Sissy, Girlfriend, !!!!!!, Fag, Queen, Delicate, Sassy, Fruity, etc… The oppression of the Black Gay Male. Yes, there is a difference between being gay in America, and being Black & Gay in America. Sadly even within the black community it is all to common to weaponize a man’s sexuality or to reference his sexuality in an attempt to win a fight, when sexuality doesn’t even have a dog in it. Even more disconcerting is that the very people of the black community who steal, borrow and beg from the black gay male are the first to throw a dagger in an attempt to humiliate and YES…OPPRESS. Déjà vu anyone? When did we as black people become the oppressors of our own gay children, friends and brothers? Lets breakdown how we as a community of black individuals respond to words like, Ghetto, Ratchet, Nappy, !!!!!!, Monkey, and Coon when dripping off the fangs of a person that does not belong to the black community; and compare that to the Black & Gay communities response to words like Sissy, Girlfriend, !!!!!!, Queen, Delicate, Sassy and Fruity, that so frequently fall out of the mouths of our black family and friends. BUT THAT’S OKAY…..RIGHT?!?! Afterall its just good ol’ shade….isn’t it?
NO, ITS DEEPER AND ITS SYSTEMATIC.

 

I for one am sick to my stomach when I see such behavior and EVEN WORSE, the dismissal of that behavior by both the black community as well as the Black & Gay community as acceptable. My knees go weak when black gay men are repeatedly feminized and represented on television and in media as nothing more than accessories to a powerful black woman. Meanwhile being “White & Gay” mean running networks, educated, selling million dollar homes and anchoring political events. The Black & Gay male is nothing more than a shiny thing to pull off the shelf and dust off when most convenient. Nothing more than a funny clown who can serve some good ‘reads’…nothing more than…Nothing.

 

Where did this begin and more importantly where does it stop? That’s easy, we live in a country and in a time when oppression is sadly acceptable, as long as you are oppressing the right group. But what I can’t for the life of me understand is how an already oppressed group can so easily oppress a sub-category of their own community. Maybe it starts with word choice. We’ve taken politically charged words like oppression and we have relegated it to “Shade.” Attacking a persons sexuality, skin color, or gender is NOT shade. That is infact oppression so lets call it what it is. Where does it end? When we finally stop giving passes to people for using words and insinuations against a community that they do not belong to. This is not about ownership of the words, it is about OPPRESSION.

 

A black person cannot oppress another black person by calling them a !!!!!!. EVEN IF THEY MEAN IT AS AN INSULT. You can anger me, but not oppress me. But when a person who is not black calls a black person a !!!!!! it hits the ear and you have been oppressed because you are black and they are not. Same thing with words in the female community and….back on topic….the gay community. You do not get to call ANY man a Queen, Fag, or Delicate because as soon as you do, you have insulted and oppressed. You have weaponized sexuality to aid you in your assassination. Shame on you. So then why is this so acceptable when it comes to the “Black & Gay” male???

 

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As I watched television last night, I caught a scene with a group of affluent black women sitting around discussing the sexuality of a black man who was not present. It starts out with heavy insinuation, with words like “delicate” (cut to talking head with a smirk), then “sassy” (another smirk), then tap dancing = gay (another smirk) then we get into rumors from around town. FUNNY RIGHT…its just “shade.”

 

Now lets change the cast but keep the setting. Lets imagine a group of affluent white women sitting around discussing the ethnicity of a person who is not even present. Ghetto gets dropped, Ratchet gets thrown in there (are we on the phone with the NAACP yet). Meanwhile everyone sits around and laughs. FUNNY RIGHT… its just “shade.”

 

Oppression is oppression and it leads to assassination. I for one will not sit back and allow people who should know what it feels like to be oppressed in this country for simply being black, to then go and victimize a person IN THEIR own community for being gay. Correction….BLACK & GAY. I will no longer allow the non-chalant discussion of a mans sexuality to be slaughtered and used for public consumption. I will not co-sign my communities compulsion to continue to demonize and assassinate the sexuality of a gay man in an attempt to feel ‘Part of the greater.’ I WILL NOT SIT BACK AND WATCH THEM DEMEAN ME THROUGH THEIR OPPRESSIVELY CHARGED WORDS ABOUT ‘HIM.’ I am you, you are me, we are them and they are us. That’s where it stops…when you take the same stand I’m taking today. When you decide that you will no longer sit back and pass off accountability for the oppression of a gay man….Excuse me….”Black & Gay”

 

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Finally started season 6 of NYC. I see Aviva the one legged bitch is working FULL TIME to make up for the damage she did to herself with her ridiculous antics in season 5. OK Aviva you work REAL hard and you just might be able to hop yourself into a little bit of good grace. Kristen seems interesting so far. Sonja and Ramona are still one of the battiest "couples" ever. I have never seen a friendship like theirs before. I liked NONE of the taglines. 

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I love her new wig but why is she dressed up like a witch? LOL. I loved her reading Peter. Perfect. I'm also with her when it came to Nene. It nearly killed me saying something nice about her. I didn't get a hot flash, but I felt a chill down my spine....lol.

 

Overall, this trip was not a good look for Kenya and I hope she can regroup, get herself together and give us more of what we love which wasn't this petty childish behavior. Unfortunately, I think this may come in hindsight after she views herself on tv, but not while they were still filming 

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