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They had Bernie come out and endorse him. I am not saying this because I am not a fan of Bernie's, but it reeks of desperation and Bernie's issues are not the issues that will win this district.

 

Bernie endorsed Ossoff for two reasons...

 

If Ossoff wins he'll take credit. Bernie and his supporters love to take credit for victories they had nothing to do with.

If Ossoff loses he'll point to his disagreement on "issues."

 

This is him trying to be relevant.

Edited June 19, 20178 yr by marceline

Like I said:

 

But Trump, too, is cognizant of the comparison to Nixon, according to one adviser. The president, who friends said does not enjoy living in Washington and is strained by the demanding hours of the job, is motivated to carry on because he “doesn’t want to go down in history as a guy who tried and failed,” said the adviser. “He doesn’t want to be the second president in history to resign.”

I love knowing that he's miserable. It accelerates his decline.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/19/politics/supreme-court-partisan-gerrymandering/index.html

 

 

8 minutes ago, rhinohide said:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/19/politics/supreme-court-partisan-gerrymandering/index.html

 

 

 

I'm cautiously optimistic. Between decisions in Virginia and North Carolina, courts seem to be signaling that they've had enough of this. Throw in Donnie's attacks on the judiciary and hopefully we'll get a favorable decision. Now we just need everyone to hang on until October.

Just by looking at the names on this list, you can see the diversity.  This is why so many of us were pissed when certain segments on the left tried to suggest that somehow it was problematic to assert the platform of POC, women and LGBTQ to the Democratic agenda.  Because often times when it comes time to defend the country and die for the country, these are the very same people who have stepped up in large numbers.  

 

What people like Trump and those of his ilk would rather not acknowledge is that there is significant number of undocumented veterans, a good number of whom have been awarded posthumous citizenship after being killed in action, yet you don't hear much of an acknowledgement in political chatter and pronouncements.

 

Has Trump even mentioned these sailors by name yet in the numerous tweets he's rattled off?

 

The Navy has released names of the 7 sailors who died in Fitzgerald collision; youngest was 19 years old. RIP pic.twitter.com/j3DdZfK2Q8

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) June 18, 2017

Edited June 19, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer

Officials: 17-year-old Muslim girl assaulted and killed after leaving Virginia mosque

 

It gets worse

Killing of Muslim teenager not being investigated as a hate crime, police say

6 minutes ago, cassadine1991 said:

Officials: 17-year-old Muslim girl assaulted and killed after leaving Virginia mosque

 

It gets worse

Killing of Muslim teenager not being investigated as a hate crime, police say

 

To be fair, it's entirely possible it wasn't about her religion. Given how many of these killers have a history of domestic violence, for all we know, he flirted with her and she said "no." That's more than enough to turn some men violent.

I'm starting to wonder if there's even going to be an election in 2020. The way this WH is getting away with blocking the press is insane.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/338458-cnns-acosta-spicer-is-kind-of-useless

6 hours ago, rhinohide said:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/19/politics/supreme-court-partisan-gerrymandering/index.html

 

6 hours ago, marceline said:

 

I'm cautiously optimistic. Between decisions in Virginia and North Carolina, courts seem to be signaling that they've had enough of this. Throw in Donnie's attacks on the judiciary and hopefully we'll get a favorable decision. Now we just need everyone to hang on until October.

 

I'm not sure I can even describe myself as cautiously optimistic. Certainly wary. With the current balance of SCOTUS right now and also their recent ruling in the Wisconsin redistricting decision.

 

Breaking: #SCOTUS stays the district court's Wisconsin redistricting decision pending the decision from SCOTUS. pic.twitter.com/bhEKQwhho4

— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) June 19, 2017

Is Trump under investigation or not?

39 minutes ago, Roman said:

Is Trump under investigation or not?

 

He is. If he weren't there wouldn't be lawyers hiring lawyers and Mueller brought on, I heard, 13 people just last week.

 

Also, remember this story about how law firms turned down Trump's business because he doesn't pay and doesn't listen? The real news is in the seventh paragraph: "Others mentioned potential conflicts with clients of their firms, such as financial institutions that have already received subpoenas relating to potential money-laundering issues that are part of the investigation."

27 minutes ago, marceline said:

 

He is. If he weren't there wouldn't be lawyers hiring lawyers and Mueller brought on, I heard, 13 people just last week.

 

Also, remember this story about how law firms turned down Trump's business because he doesn't pay and doesn't listen? The real news is in the seventh paragraph: "Others mentioned potential conflicts with clients of their firms, such as financial institutions that have already received subpoenas relating to potential money-laundering issues that are part of the investigation."

and the faucet continues to drip, drip, drip....

The senate is going to pass this disastrous heath care bill. I have no idea what changes are in it but I have no doubt it's going to be at a point where the House will end up reconciling and passing it.

 

I hate to sound like Debbie Downer. Local politics is sucking here in Illinois too. Cook County passed a flawed min wage and sick page referenda in Nov which all suburbs overwhelmingly voted in favor of. Little by little communities are opting out. About 30% citing the same bullshit we have heard for years about how people will cross into other communities blah blah. After a long fight, our community opted out of it. Our business community is not large, and in fact our sister community voted to keep it and has a much larger business district. At the end they will benefit as will their workers. A bunch of stodgy old men overturn locally what residents voted for, for the interests of a very tiny business community that contributes very little to our tax base. I've been bummed out since that happened.

Doesn't the senate need 60 votes to pass legislation?