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Hey yr9190 I do have a couple episodes from August 1995 that I mentioned I've always thought about putting up on Youtube. They're alright, nothing too much going on in any of them. The one I mentioned earlier up I have dated to Friday, August 4th 1995 and goes like this: -In the aftermath of Matt's shooting Nick is in jail and Sharon is begging Nick to let her go to police to tell them about Matt raping her. Nick says not to otherwise it would give him motive to the police. Nick learns Matt is still alive and not dead as previously thought. Victor brings in Mitchell Sherman and John Silva to represent Nick, but Nick doesn't budge in telling the truth. Victor tries to break Sharon into telling him why Nick would shoot Matt but fails. In the meantime Matt is comatose barely alive, barely hanging on and remembers hearing gun shots. In the meantime Amy is wandering the streets disorientated. -Nikki is a HOT mess and shows up at the Newman Ranch desperate as she's just found out about Nick being in jail. In a hilarious scene, Hope tosses Nikki out, berating Nikki for being MIA in the crisis and for being mysteriously absent for the past couple of days with no way of getting in touch. Nikki barks back why does she even care and Hope declares that as Nick's stepmother she most certainly has the right to have an invested interest. Nikki finally leaves for the police station, only to come face to face with Victor demanding where the hell she has been. -Brad shows up at Newman and dismayed to find Jack in Victor's chair. Jack is less than thrilled with Brad, apparently being absent too for the last couple of days(connect the dots to the above) and is conducting business as usual, including closing one of Brad's important deals that's been working on. Brad is furious with Jack. Jack says every ship needs a captain, but Brad declares this ship has two captains. -Oh boy, here's the bulk of the episode. Nina is preparing to leave on a week's long trip to Toronto for a writing convention, but is feeling uneasy about leaving for so long. She stops by at Ryan's office and asks Ryan if he wants her to stay but Ryan encourages to keep her plans saying it will be good for her and of course he'd call her all the time. Sweet talk between the two occurs. In the meantime, Cole is dismayed to find a stressed Victoria awake and working(on a VERY old looking laptop too!). Victoria says with all that is going on with Nick she needs a distraction and to catch up on work. Cole tells her to take it easy and to take the day off and Victoria is about to agree when the phone rings. It's Jeri Paulsen, Cole's apprentice. Victoria snatches the phone away and hangs up on Jeri. Her and Cole bicker about Jeri being a threat with Cole spending all that time working long lonely hours with her and her constant calling of the house. Victoria announces to Cole she needs to take some paperwork to RYAN to obviously Cole's disgust. Victoria shows up at Ryan's office just as Nina is leaving and the two share a very awkward moment with Nina telling Victoria she's sorry to hear about Nick. Nina then leaves and drops off Phillip IV/Chance at Flo's and confides in her mother that she is most worried about Victoria and Ryan working together while she is away. Ryan and Victoria share some small talk over Nick's arrest and the toll its taking on her. Just as Nina confides her fears to Flo, Victoria asks Ryan if her ever thinks of what life would be like if they were still married. Ryan says he doesn't, he's married to Nina and she's married to Cole. She kisses him on the cheek and leaves. In the meantime, Cole calls Jeri back and apologizes for before. Jeri, looking at a picture of Cole asks to set up a lunch date with him which he agrees too.

Here's a story time forgot; one of my Y&R eps I have from August 1995 in-between Matt's shooting and Brad/Nikki hookups Cole and Victoria had the strangest story aside from Victoria secretly desiring Ryan to Nina's disgust. Cole keeps getting calls from a young infatuated blonde tart writing apprentice of his who's obviously unstable and fixated on Cole but he's clueless. Victoria keeps calling it like it is but Cole keeps brushing her off. LOL I seem to recall this girl was a total nutjob wasn't she? I remember watching this play out but its rare it ever gets mentioned in any past summary. A minor footnote in the grand scheme of things.

Whew I've been so busy I haven't posted on SON in a good minute. I think Bell could pull off thrillers like Jill's Shooting, Brad in a Cage, George Rawlins murder, Marge, Sheila, David Kimble etc. because it was in my opinion a good formula mix by having them being slow paced and more character driven yet when the time came he could write the most explosive twist to keep the story fresh and going ie Lauren is buried alive, Brad stuck in the cage to die, David having the word KILLER carved into his forehead, Jack steps on and walks out on a dying Victor, April stabs Robert etc. Bell could grab your attention and for the most part it never felt like a cheap stunt. Michael's redemption worked because it was very slowly paced over time and it was years before he could fit comfortably into regular Genoa City society even as late as 2003/2004 he still had this issue. Oh and unlike Kevin he actually felt guilty and showed remorse, although I certainly didn't agree with Michael and Christine getting engaged.

Question: Didn't the show bring back a recast Monica Lawrence for the Scott story, and how was she involved in it?

Oh I can imagine why, it wasn't until a few months into '97 the show caught on fire again after the horrendous 1996. Now that I think about it Maeve and Vanessa were in a very awkward phase and storyline with Vanessa is dead in Springfield but alive in Switzerland fiasco.

Thanks, I forgot about the Soap World site. I always forget that Wendy Moniz was on that cover. I loved Moniz especially '97-'99 but I wonder why ver Dorn and Kinkead didn't make that cover. I'm not surprised a Lucy and A-M cover was a low seller. They tried so hard 1994-1996 to make A-M and Lucy into a super couple. The Brent/Marian story was great but otherwise they were on the dull side of things especially post Brent/Marian. There was that ridiculous Universal Studios wedding which only saving grace was it being crashed by Phillip. It was more of a 2000s problem of GL not getting any SOD covers except for a rare occasion.

Amazingly GL did get the occasion to make SOD covers, some particular great ones here too: Still looking for the GL 60th Anniversary cover SOD did that had Zaslow and Zimmer on it.

What was Vanessa's final straw before deciding to frame Lorie for murder for her suicide?

I believe Gwen was the sister of Mitchell Sherman if I recall right. I've seen clips and eps online of Jennifer Leak as the hysteric psycho Olive on AW so I wonder how she was on Y&R in a completely different role. I believe there was also a another actress who played Gwen as well. I've always been curious of how Victor and Jill would have worked in the long run. Not too long ago I was reading a piece on Y&R from I believe late '92/early '93 criticizing the scenes, with the author dismissing them as disgusting and didn't want to see Jill wasted.

One of the few things I appreciate from Gold's tenure as HW was the Billy/Holly/Buzz triangle. Taggert had started on Ed and Holly but of course Conboy and Weston dropped the ball big time there. I do give Wheeler and Kriezman the credit to making everything almost right with GL's ending with Ed and Holly together, Fletcher and Alex, Bridget and Dylan etc. Even though I hated the couple, we really needed a Fletcher and Holly scene though. Zimmer looked good up until about 2005 or so, after that then she literally took up the whole screen.

I do apologize to you Paul as I was mistaken in who posted those photos. Thanks! I nearly made a snarky Susan Batten joke there... I actually enjoyed Dunphy and I think she was better than Schulenberg. Dunphy worked well in my opinion as the funny, clever yet airheaded schemer. I do see your point though about the absence of vets, which why I did like the story of Nancy helping Alison out to impress Chris to woo him back.

Heh my mom and I use to joke about Emma's small ancient refrigerator and how on earth she could keep something that small for a big family like the Snyders. Thanks for those photos Paul! Kim actually had two big stories that year, the first one was her heart surgery that overlapped with the Who Shot Diego story. I have a couple episodes I taped from back then, one with Kim's surgery while Holden and Lucinda were locked in the wine cellar while another is about a week after the wedding Lily's arraignment taking place, Margo having blackouts, Mike and Lucinda trying to convince Pilar to stop changing her mind about her dead brother, and quite possibly Allyson Rice-Taylor's last ep as she tells Cal she thinks Mark killed Diego in revenge for T. Jones' death. Diego! T. Jones! Actually the increasingly horny teen I was I thought Diego was hot, too bad they transformed him from the town's super shady guy into some supervillian terrorist extraordinaire. It was the most unbelievable stretch to make Diego be really Umberto himself, and the of course the story ended so badly as well.

This is an interesting 1999 interview with Greg Watkins, who played Evan Walsh on ATWT:

It's funny that the Lowells simply were merged and absorbed in the Stewarts, as the Stewart clan itself got merged/absorbed into the Hughes pretty much. No men to carry on the name, but that does happen in real life all the time. I've heard Judge Lowell in 1979 was to what Ellen was in 1995. I'm surprised the show never brought back any Hughes family related to black sheep John Hughes. If I recall right from my readings/studies(lol) the actor who played John Hughes was the 2nd Mike Karr on Edge of Night but his name escapes me at the moments. What was Lisa's mother Alma like? I've heard she was sort of like Ada was on AW.

Thanks! Hal and Barbara were for me a couple that I grew to like. When I first started watching I always thought Hal and Barbara were kinda boring. I thought Barbara was more fun with Evan and the sort and it irked me they got back together even with Jennifer's birth. I liked the faux stalker story though even if it caused them to split up again. When I truly came to appreciate them was when they got back together in the late 90s and restored and renewed their relationship after going through all the hassles over the years after being separated. I have no words for the disgust and disappointment when Barbara left Hal for Craig. I liked Hal and Emily as Hal seemed to having a taming effect on Emily but they were unfortunately backburned too quickly. Emily virtually had no story between the spa and Alison's discovery of her conception in 2002 and her affair with Chris in 2004. A shame because Emily really self-destructed after that, and yet much like Barbara and Carly, Hal still deeply cared about Emily. It's a shame we lost Hendrickson the way we did he was a terrific actor so long underrated. In spite of his average appearance he was a great leading man and was a natural fit for Dolan, CZP, West, KMH, and even Marie Masters.

Just out of curiosity what did you guys think of Hal and Barbara as a couple? What about when Hal and Emily were paired up? I save my opinions on them for later.

I wonder what would have happened if the 90-minute format had actually succeeded. Ninety minutes does sound like a long time but given how NBC was in dire straits with scatterbrained management in 1979 I guess that's why it was green-lighted. I've seen the first two 90-minute episodes featuring Olive burning down Alice's house and killing John in the process and they weren't bad, but in a way they felt more like 90-minute specials. I know the St. Croix story was critically acclaimed and got some ratings but I've heard the subsequent Mitch Blake "murder" and Rachel's trial was horribly written and so unwatchable it was one of the reasons so many tuned off AW in droves in 1980. I'm surprised no soap ever tried a two-hour special like primetime.

What did you guys think of Gary and Josie? I liked the pairing and enjoyed the 2nd Gary and 2nd Josie although I felt the cliched affair with Cameron and the death of Gary Jr. were completely unnecessary. I'm er not sure why Amy Carlson left, she later temped as Harley on GL and Gibbs was allegedly "stolen" away by Jill Farren Phelps if I recall right(she made him a better offer at another soap). AW was always background noise for me so I didn't mind Jake and Vicky too much but looking back now the pairing was a bit of a stretch. I remember they were AW's "supercouple" on for the Macy's Thanksgiving parade on NBC Daytime's supercouple float they had that year along with John&Marlena, Bo&Hope on Days and Ben and Meg on Sunset Beach.

They didn't even attempt to give any further story to a possibly complicated relationship between Noah and the Colonel, nothing at all. Heck they didn't have Noah meet his birth mother as played by Robin Mattson. Worse is that Colonel became a recurring VOM for the next two years.

Here is what Matt P. Smith had to say about From These Roots:

I wonder if Katherine Phillips is still alive, and why her and Irna left the show so soon. I think a couple articles I've seen on this suggest Irna happily helped her daughter out at ABC to stick it to CBS for their interference at ATWT and LIAMST. I recall one poster on the old WOST site talked about the three ABC soaps that debuted in 1970 and said they felt A World Apart was far superior in quality to AMC. Maybe A World Apart should have aired on CBS, but the concept reminds me of the long lost P&G soap From These Roots.

It's funny I watched ATWT a good five of six years as a kid before I ever paid attention to the closing credits. I remember it was not long after after switchover from the spinning globe to replaying the day's scenes and I was kinda not paying attention when I heard this "This is Dan Region, inviting to join us again Monday for As The World Turns". I was shocked as I wondered how long this had been going on. Yet it also confirmed my suspicions that Albuquerque was airing ATWT a day-behind(at 10AM Mountain) because this happened on a Monday! Yet it made the show so much more personal to me.

Is that why Kinkead left the show at the end of '87? That wouldn't surprise me given her stormy relationship with the show in the '90s and her ability to speak out and openly criticize the bad writing plaguing her character. Gina Tognoni's first scene was with Jerry ver Dorn actually when she was making a phone call home to check in on things at the same time Cassie was getting weird credit card charges and had realized someone was using her identity.

We never did see Sam actually jump out of the car did we?

Thanks for the clips and info! Carl do you think Quint and Nola could have survived alongside Josh and Reva? I've always thought it was funny Kim Zimmer played a Nola on The Doctors.