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When you put it that way, I wouldn't be surprised if Ron Carlivati was just trolling his critics. Lord knows he trolls every time he writes even one word for DAYS.

Another Possible Big Twist: Deacon and Ridge get into another fight...that gradually turns into a night of passionate sex.

That's what happens sometimes when you change your mind about stories in progress. You end up making some characters (like Nate) look like complete fools.

Exactly. We don't know for sure where his son got his ideas. Suggesting it was VI's doing without proof is wrong.

Yes! Michael Malone said so himself: if Charles Dickens were alive today, he'd be writing for the soaps. (And, yes, we would be roasting his ass, too, for killing off Little Nell.)

Agree. Like you said, @FrenchBug82, writing is hard-ass work no matter WHICH medium you write for. But the fact that it IS hard work doesn't mean you get a pass if/when the results suck. It just means that, in this case anyway, your best just wasn't good enough. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Ron Carlivati needs to stay the hell off social media. So, his problem is that the criticism lobbied against his work isn't constructive? Dude, it's Twitter! You're lucky if the feedback you get is all spelled correctly! Besides, how much more constructive does it need to be than, "WTF is this [!@#$%^&*] that I'm watching, Ron!?"?

You know, not every person who supports our former president is evil. Misguided? Yes. Evil? No. And I say all that as someone who is glad Trump is out of office.

Maybe he plans to get everyone in town hooked on smack, lol!

Well, at the very least, DAYS could run promos during commercial breaks: "Want to know MORE about Renee DiMera? Go to NBC.com/DAYS and read all about her wild adventures in Salem! You can even watch hand-selected clips and see what Renee [shot of PS], Tony [shot of TP], Anna [shot of LH] and everyone else [brief clips of other characters from that period] was up to back in the day!" Wait, did they kill off Lee? You can't explain it, because it doesn't compare. Spoon's just pissed that hardly anyone else on this board thinks this Sarenee [!@#$%^&*] is gold just because it's showing off itself by dropping old character names.

I knew when I saw that screen grab of Clyde reading "The Devil Wears Prada" that it was Ron Carlivati making another, clumsy attempt at foreshadowing. Clyde is possessed by the devil, too, isn't he? End this story NOW, Ron. The power of Ted Corday compels you.

It would be one thing if Ron Carlivati was just going through a "rough patch." All head writers in this industry have gone through periods where it's clear they're not as on their game as they'd normally be. But, my God, when was the last time Ron Carlivati told a story on any show he's worked on that didn't make viewers want to scream in agony or question his taste or sanity?

Common response: "Because, the public doesn't know everything that goes into creating art! THEY JUST. DON'T. KNOW." My response to the common response: "Bullshit. "First of all, the public DOES know, more than you THINK they do. Second, that's taking the whiny way out, instead of just sitting your asses down and doing better. And third, whatever goes into 'creating art' is irrelevant. All that matters, at the end of the day, is the finished product; and if the audience thinks the finished product is crap, they have a right AND A DUTY to say so. "After all, without your audience, who the hell are you creating all this [!@#$%^&*] for? Just yourselves? Good luck keeping the lights on that way, Cookie!" Ron Carlivati is a prissy little bitch who doesn't take criticism well and who shouldn't be writing parking tickets, let alone a 56-year-old soap opera. A soap opera is like any other dramatic work; it lives and dies by its' writing. And Ron Carlivati might be talented (although, I've yet to see that for myself) but again, that's irrelevant. As HW, his name is attached to every storyline currently running on DAYS; and right now, at least, he's failing. Miserably. Thank you. I get what Claire Labine told Damon Jacobs in their 2016 WLS interview: you can't write for the audience; you have to write what interests and pleases you, because audiences can be fickle. But, on the other hand, if something is clearly not working, and you know it's not working because your audience is telling you loud and clear that it's not working, then you have to try something else. Period. Because, ladies and gentlemen, writing a television series is not the same as writing a novel. You've got a lot more people to answer to, and if you piss them off too long and too often with cheap writing, eventually, they're gonna stop watching altogether.

One of these days, that hack is gonna learn to keep his ass off social media.

I'm watching the first episode of "Secrets of the Chippendale Murders" on A&E, and guess who shows up in archival footage? That's right: Brian Starcher (ex-Hank). Unfortunately, he was clothed, lol.

Or they could have realized that it was a stupid story and wrapped it up immediately. A soap has gotta do more than drop names and reference histories, though. It's gotta do so in ways that are meaningful and don't insult the memory of those names and events. Otherwise, why bother? That's just another way of saying, "If you think you're so much better than those hacks, why don't YOU trying creating and/or writing a soap?". Trust me, if people on here really wanted to, they would, and whatever they'd come up with would be ten times more entertaining than what's coming from the idiots who are currently being paid to do it! Good point!

Mealor looks toasted in that screen grab.

If ZT sticks around, then they'll have to split up Sonny and Will somehow. You and me both, lol. Marlena's been possessed by the devil twice. She, of all people, should recognize when the devil has leapt back into her grandson. And please tell me Ron Carlivati was not inspired by a certain, former First Lady's infamous jacket.

That would be B&B's answer to DYNASTY's "Moldavian Massacre" and SNL's 1985-86 season finale.

IMO, Patrick Mulcahey's stuff (the "special" episodes and the regular ones) literally prolonged SANTA BARBARA's life. Otherwise, that show would have been a goner much sooner than it was.

I love the fact that Gary's "death" had real, emotional impact on everyone. If that had happened during the Lechowicks' tenure, it would have been treated as just another plot point, with their customary shits-and-giggles. As far as storylines go, the Wolfbridge storyline was pure adrenaline. You knew something exciting and sinister was going on, you just didn't know what, lol. In a way, watching it was like being inside a speeding car where the wheels are in danger of coming off at any moment. It's a miracle that everyone made it to the end.

Alice and Heather Grant were just two characters who were all over the damn place.

Because, that would take more depth than Ron Carlivati is capable of writing. (I realize my hero, Douglas Marland, would want me to be more encouraging toward him...but I can't, Mr. Marland. The guy is a dreadful writer.) If this were still '70's DAYS, with either Bill Bell or Pat Falken Smith head-writing, we might see a story where Craig IS conflicted between his newfound sexuality and his lingering feelings toward Nancy. Instead, Nancy has been retconned into Craig's longtime beard, which is cheap, ugly and dishonest, given their portrayals in the past.

The "Genoa City Slasher" tale Must. Happen.

If the idea was to have the devil tempt Craig through Johnny (and his "gorgeous" body), why not just have the devil appear (as naked Johnny) to Craig in a dream? The devil can enter people's dreams, you know! It would have made much more sense than that scene at HTS.

I feel sorry for their unborn child (who is still slated to be abducted by the aliens upon its' birth). Can't say that I blame him. I'm hard pressed to think of any man, gay OR straight, who'd want to be caught in bed with the likes of Leo. (Craig has obviously been brainwashed, so he doesn't count.)