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I think he would have had a character like Leo, but I don't think he'd be as garish, for lack of a better word. Again, he would have made us understand what made someone like Leo tick. For example, I could see his Leo coming from a poor background - the product of a dysfunctional family, with an abusive father who kicked him out of the house when he was still a teenager after learning his son was a "f****t." And I could see it being revealed that Leo was then "groomed" by an older escort/gigolo/con artist, with the strong implication that the two had had a sexual relationship. Would all that have helped us LIKE Leo better? Maybe, maybe not. But at least we would've been able to empathize with the feelings of pain and isolation that have motivated him his entire life. That, after all, is what you're supposed to do as a writer: make us understand and relate to a character, if not totally want to be his BFF. Moreover, Marland would have taken great pains to show us the more sympathetic and compassionate sides of Leo's nature by gradually introducing siblings for him: brothers and sisters whom he still cared about and wished to protect, despite not having had any contact with the family in years. Leo could continue to be a bastard to everybody in Salem; however, his relationships with his family would have been his Achilles heel. He would have had layers to him that had nothing at all to do with his ridiculous suits.

And the thing is, it's going nowhere. There's no point in this shaggiest of shaggy dog stories. It's just the devil leaping from one person to another with no clear agenda. Either get to the [!@#$%^&*] point, Carlivati, or END IT!!

That's because '80's DAYS had heart and emotional depth to its' storylines. They - the writers, the producers, the directors, the whole production team - believed in the power of romance.

Oh, GAWD. Will that story NEVER. END?

What else IS there? God knows the writing ain't worth talkin' about!

Exactly. Marland would have at least helped us understand why Leo is the way he is. He wouldn't have been just an irritating plot device in bad suits.

That's what I thought. Thanks much, @SFK! Even back then, when the HG story broke, and everybody (myself included) was cracking jokes about "Jesus on a comet" and the tennis shoes, I felt Applewhite wasn't a sociopath like David Koresh or Jim Jones, but a man whose inner, personal demons had conquered him and caused him to lose his way. I truly felt sorry for him and his followers, who seemed like "nice" people who just didn't know how to fit in with the rest of society. Maybe that isn't the full and true story, but at least those were my impressions at the time. I still feel that way. Tying it back into KL, I feel like Joshua would have been the perfect vehicle to tell a story about religious cults - how they begin, how they grow, and how they eventually end. Of course, that kind of story was likely beyond even the scope of a weekly, one-hour show like KNOTS.

LOL!! But seriously. If this were still the '80's, you know they'd have Liz up onstage at Blondie's, singing her heart out (as usual) to something like "Crazy," by Kenny Rogers, while both Craig and Leo sit in the audience, exchanging long, meaningful glances at each other. And I'd be so ready to punch out my TV screen, too. Oh, if Jamey is writing this garbage, then Cleo's love theme would be something from Sylvester.

Her "New Romance" might have been a mystery, but what she was showin' off with that dress sure wasn't, lol!

In a way, I'm glad DAYS can't afford music anymore. I'd hate to hear whatever "love theme" they would come up with for "Cleo."

Actually, I'd write two twists: 1) Stephanie reveals (via letter) that Sheila is her long-lost daughter. 2) Out of guilt for not raising her, she further reveals that she has left her shares of FC to her; making Sheila, in effect, the Forresters' new boss.

Now THAT's the kind of dialogue I would have loved to have heard, lol!

It's just tragic that a storyline that COULD have groundbreaking has already devolved into the kind of camp that is literally killing DAYS and this genre as a whole. You just KNOW Bill Bell or Pat Falken Smith would have told the hell out of this story if they had had the chance.

Another comment about the "Women of KL" photo upthread: most of the women want to put their hands on their hips in a stereotypically haughty fashion...but not Miss Julie Harris. As usual, she ain't here for the cliches. That's why I love that woman to this day.

If Leo allows his thirst for Chad's peen (or, for that matter, for ANY peen) to make him so gullible to Sonny and Will's ridiculous plans, then I question just how effective he was as a con. Agree. On all counts. Ron has Chandler and maybe Zach for a limited time. Don't waste the audience's time with b.s. like this. DO SOMETHING REAL WITH THEM. MAKE IT COUNT.

Do you know what she said?

It took over a century (and 200-plus failed attempts) to get an anti-lynching bill passed in this country. I'd laugh, if it weren't so damn sad.

At the very least, there could be one of those overblown, on-air promos: "BIGGEST. TWIST. EVER. After [Enter Date Here], 'The Bold & the Beautiful' Will NEVER Be The Same."

Now there's one person I'd love to see "cancelled."

She's bad even in "church plays," and God KNOWS the acting in those ain't exactly Royal Shakespeare Company-level either!

Yup. Selling this story was going to be tough, no matter what. But having Craig hook up with a much younger guy AND one whose reputation is already shady as hell...? It just makes everything that much worse. If he's gonna be THAT thin-skinned about viewers' criticisms of his work, then maybe he shouldn't be writing at all. At the VERY least, he should stay the [!@#$%^&*] off social media. Amen!

Well, TBF, Robin Givens is always chewing scenery. Even in her real life.

Thank you, thank you and thank you! And even if I bought the premise that Sonny and Will are intervening out of concern for Craig and Chloe, why use not-gay Chad to lure horny Leo into bed? They've got the cash; hire a male prostitute! You could even have Will make a joke about Sonny paying him with a cash app. ("You paid him on PayPal? God, you really do suck at this!") Even better, hire a private investigator to dig up some dirt on Leo! He's a con artist, I'm sure he's got more than a few skeletons in his closet! Maybe this isn't the first time Leo has hooked up with a dude (like Craig) while pretending to be something or someone he's not. Maybe they could find him, bring him to Salem and have him tell Craig that their relationship happened in the exact same way as Craig and Leo's, thereby causing Craig to pause, if only briefly, about the whole thing.

Scott Baio: "If I had to do it all over again, I would’ve waited ’til Happy Days was over until I did anything else." Too bad "Happy Days" isn't still on the air. We could have been spared so many OTHER bad performances from Scotty.

I'll never know whether Marisa Tomei DESERVED that Oscar, but I DO know that MCV was, and is, a POS movie that's funny BECAUSE of her performance in it.