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Ah yes of course, one has to consider delayed viewing nowadays. After all, we certainly don't watch anything live anymore except the news (sometimes). Everything is recorded and if it's something we're watching right away, let the first half record and then begin watching so we can speed past commercials.

Definitely. We came to that decision. If things change and she cuts the cord from him and reaches out to us, I'm open to communication.

Really? What are they normally pulling in nowadays? I see on Showbuzz Daily their total viewership at 1.4 million. That's actually kinda sad. I didn't realize their highest rated Housewives (or second highest, if Beverly Hills is No. 1 now) are a far cry away from even 2 million anymore... If Housewives are modern day Soap Operas, they've hit the late 90's/early 00's era.

One was spotted in Iowa apparently, haha. I remember John said that line because I wondered too. It was soon after the clones were released into the world. No word ever since. Sounds like something Carlivati could dig up and use present-day.

Sorry I missed this earlier No, we haven't corresponded with her for the past couple months, aside from a "like" here 'n there on Instagram. She'll occasionally comment on my stuff. Meanwhile, she's actually on a never-ending vacation around the USA via his RV. They're always posting about doing something somewhere in the southern states: She, him, and his gaggle of friends, almost all of them women. When I see her postings, there's a lack of light in her eyes; seemingly soulless or just sleep deprived. Whatever fun lil' narcotics they're taking are keeping them skinny but are slowly wearing them out. One time, she reached out to our mutual girlfriend to catch up, and at one point, Diana sighed and admitted, "I'm tired..." but it didn't seem like just a casual mention of just being tired, you know? A few months ago around Christmastime, Carlo posted a long, long lengthy post about his "tribe" and how you make your own family and whatnot. I could post it here. I still have yet to read it. Also a couple months back, Carlo reached out to my hubby via social media as kind of a general catchup and was bragging about something random he just bought, but my hubby didn't respond. As my hubby is considered the Queen Bee/Regina George (haha) of the group, no doubt Diana and Carlo were discussing all of us and wanted to put feelers out by reaching out to my hubby since hubby had stopped responding to Diana. We'll see what happens as we get closer to the summertime and they're finally back home...

Talk about an unnecessary save, yet for some reason I saw it coming.

I normally don't watch these types of shows with castmembers watching and reacting, but I'm totally watching this one with the Grande Dame & Ashley. Boy, have they come a long way!

Wow, good for her! Has she even been on Y&R lately? They're starting to rotate characters/stories in intervals like DAYS does.

Agreed; that was OTT. I cringed.

To this day, I still think Joe and Melissa got off easy. I really wanted the tea to spill when Danielle Staub rejoined the show.... Danielle: "Did you acknowledge your nephew....?" Teresa: "I wanna know who she's been tawwwking to!" That juicy Season 2 reunion revelation that was never thoroughly dissected. Thirsty Joe & Melissa wanting Tre's fame and fortune, promising Bravo dirt, and they never got called out adequately. WOW, I love the 4th wall completely crumbling. It's great they don't put up a façade any longer. I can only wish they'd go back and re-edit and re-release Housewives shows of the early years and let us see the 4th wall footage (i.e. Kelly's Scary Island breakdown on RHONY; all the hush-hush coverups of Kim's drinking and Taylor being abused on RHOBH, etc. etc.)

I. LOVE. THIS. LOL The narrator.... "Maria's life is straight up diarrhea."

I have questions, lol. Can someone translate? One overly dramatic scene I can recall was during DAYS' Serial Killer debacle of 2004 where Julie was dry heaving in grief over the news of Alice's passing. Susan Seaforth-Hayes was really hamming it up during this era, along with all the Julie/Bonnie/Mickey scenes...

That would be lovely

I'm late to the party... where does one view all these?

Tina Burner reminds me of Cherry Pie, just not as good. I've never read up on the nitty gritty details of Cherry Pie, but she was definitely talented as a queen.

I just binged The Undoing. It was very good! It's only 6 episodes, so it was simple. I don't know what Nicole Kidman is doing to her lips and face, but she needs to stop. She also needs to stop playing roles where she's the mother of a 10 year old. She's been doing that for last 20+ years. Even though I binged The Handmaid's Tale last November, I'm rewatching it again; into the 3rd season already. I can't wait for this and You to return this year.

Dear God! LOL Her face looks so... sharp. Girl same. They should've waited until her face settled to bring her back.

Hello fellow Chicago area native! I actually grew up in Naperville :) oh the secrets and scandal of that town. So many Republican families in that town seemed to breed a lot of gay children! P.S. the western suburb was Hinsdale ;) the rich man worked in the Gold Coast though. And yes, you’d think the class conflict of city vs. suburb would be a great jumping off point to get tension going for a series.

Ask Dr. Kimberly Shaw from Melrose Place...

I watched the SLC reunion and it was fabulous. You know, I have to laugh every time you see Jen smirking about something, like when Lisa was talking and making points about something and you'd see Jen with a side smirk, basically letting us know Lisa was full of shi†. But anyhow, the venom towards Lisa was quite something, and like @Soaplovers said, you would easily replace Jen with Lisa as the show's villainess. And it really works. The Ice Princess, or Fabulous Ice (thank you @Taoboi), for as icy and cold as she is, her confidence and assurance makes her for a much better adversary than Jen could ever be. And, like Andy, I was waiting to see the ice melt at some point, and it finally did as she talked about her love for her sons. Mary gave me the giggles. Ooh, she wants to come back for a second season and I loved her blunt statements. I was a little surprised (as was Heather, but it was glossed over) when Mary casually said she doesn't think Heather likes her either. My one gripe, as with all post-COVID quarantine reunions, is that because everyone is so far apart, there are many times when people are talking at the same time, so their words get lost in the kerfuffle. The thing about Mary is that a lot of what she said isn't always taken to heart or it doesn't pack as big a punch, because she is removed from the group. It's similar to NYC's Alex McCord throwing out all those truth bombs at the season 4 reunion, but getting dismissed by the brunettes & redheaded Jill on the other side. The "but I don't WANT to be your friend. Don't you get that?" was hilarious. Meredith looked gorgeous. Whitney's new titties were nice but a bit too large for her small frame. I'm looking forward to seeing the Meredith/Lisa/Jen drama play out in the next part, and well really, I'm looking forward to all of it. SLC has given us a fantastic freshman season! I've mentioned this in the past, but I do know Bravo was casting for Chicago ("Real Housewives of The Gold Coast" working title) back in 2010. My now-husband was dating (okay, he was the young gay secret side piece of a "straight" married man) a very rich man at the time whose wife had been cast, along with a handful of other wealthy women, even though they technically didn't even live in the gold coast neighborhood of Chicago; they lived in one of the western suburbs. Anyhow, it fizzled out because the women they chose weren't bringing a lot of drama and were keeping their secrets locked down tight. Good thing, cuz my husband could've very well been outed as the wife's husband's secret gay black lover down the line!

Reva's stalker in early 2003 was supposed to be Jonathan (a year and a half before they casted Tom Pelphrey).

I am HERE for whatever Monique Samuels is serving!!! I love that "preview" clip. Well done lol. I haven't seen SLC Reunion yet, but I thought it was strange how Lisa's dismissal of Heather early on in the season (Lisa saying she didn't really know Heather and referring to her as a good-time-girl in college) was pretty much dropped after the luncheon event.

Wow, I didn't realize this Melrose thread has been so active in recent weeks! So, for the past 3 years straight, I've gotten into this habit of watching MP at work around January to February. It's become a tradition! Two years ago, I did seasons 1-2, last year 3-4 and started getting into 5 but stopped. Last month, I randomly watched the first season's Christmas episode which got me into watching the majority of season one all over again. I am loving the recent discussion because I echo so much of what's been discussed... - The reintroduction of Peter sucked the life out of Amanda. Indeed, she became a different character when he was around, and the majority of the time, Amanda Woodward seemed miserable with mopey Peter. - I 100% agree Alison was the heart of the show. Even as an ensemble in Seasons 2-3, there was a feeling until Season 4 that the focus of the series still revolved around her and her life struggles. Season 1 is basically all about her and Billy. The focus started shifting more towards Amanda as the lead in season 3 (see: cancer story) and continued that way in season 4 through the end. - I love season one. I love the innocence of it. Granted, if the show stayed the exact same way as it was in the first half of S1, I highly doubt it would've made it beyond a second season. The first season is why we rooted for the OG's so hard, versus the rush of new characters in Season 5 and 6. That first season established them very distinctively. Yes, many characters' personalities did a 180 eventually, which is why we cared so hard when they weren't written in character (i.e. Alison serving drinks at Shooters by the end of Season 4 and throughout 5, when she was so clearly established as someone who wanted to work her way up the ladder to become the very best she could possibly be). - Yes, these characters were friends, not just neighbors. But it's funny how there is a clear shift in how the show is presented as soon as Heather Locklear joins. Yes, the friendships are still tight (Alison/Jo, Jane/Alison, Jake/Billy, etc.) but they ditched the endless group party scenes or moments where the entire complex congregates to celebrate/mourn whatever is happening to one person (usually Alison, sometimes Jane). Once Locklear joins, it's immediately heavy on the Alison/Billy/Amanda story, then Jo/Jake and their ups and downs, and towards the very end of the season, then comes Jane/Michael/Kimberly. Rhonda and Terrence's story is backburnered, save for the 1-2 episodes where Rhonda's uptight former roommate (the girl that appeared in one episode between Sandy leaving and Jo joining) reappears as their interior decorator for the house they're about to move into. - But getting back to the topic of whether these people actually liked one another, I think Melrose suffered the same fate as many daytime shows or other primetime soaps, where eventually it just doesn't seem organic for these characters to be in one another's orbit anymore. You get that problem like daytime soaps have where you "have to" have these characters interact and/or hook up, because there's only so many people on the canvas. I can buy pretty much anything from the first 3 seasons, but starting in Season 4 and certainly into Season 5, you really have to wonder WHY so many of them don't move? Or why they don't cut so-and-so out of their life for good? (And really, WHY did Kimberly last beyond Season 3? That in itself was a HUGE stretch). @juppiter To answer your January 31st question, I'd push through Season 5 and see how you're feeling it... I find myself loving Seasons 1 through two-thirds of Season 4 as the golden years, and beyond that, it's watching out of devotion for the show (like a soap that's seen better days but you hope for a resurgence). P.S. It's ridiculous how they constantly rewrote Amanda's backstory and family upbringing. Did her Models Inc. mommy ditch her at the age of 6 or 16?

I'm down with that.

Awww, of course it's Garcelle, and the Beverly Hills hags will always hate on the ones who don't really need the show to survive/thrive/feel pretty & popular. Looking forward to SLC's reunion. I love the winter wonderland set! I haven't kept up with their social media accounts, so I don't know what kind of drama has unfolded since filming, but there's always that insulated innocence of the first season of any housewives franchise that morphs into strategy and camera mugging as they start getting viewer feedback in the second year. Overall, this is a great crop of women (though Jen will have to go on an additional apology tour and keep her tantrums in check for Season Two) and I, too, see shades of Potomac potential.