Gray Bunny

Finally catching up on this thread and SON.... A belated Merry Christmas to everyone! That Potomac reunion had me fired up and left me feeling gypped, to be honest. For as juicy and epic as this reunion was, they gave the Samuels the short end of the stick, at least Andy did. I wanted to hear more from that binder! But Cokehead wasn't allowing it, other than reluctantly acquiescing in Part 1. I wanted to hear Chris and Monique be able to explain how everything went down and what they knew, and have ZERO interruptions from Cokehead, the GEB's, or the Crusty Napkin, but of course we couldn't get that. Thank goodness production had the Samuels' back and aired Gizelle's dirty laundry (i.e. the unaired footage). And I *loved* how Chris spoke directly to Gizelle about being the main potstirrer of the trainer/baby rumor. "Hurt people hurt people. Go get some help." That was delicious. Peace out. This was Gizelle's worst reunion but when you have Andy trying to placate the attacks, it's obvious they're still trying to make Gizelle happen. Just like "fetch," Gizelle is NEVER gonna happen, Andy! With all the drama about the fight and rumor, it's kind of funny how that final altercation between Michael Darby and non-factor Chris became an afterthought. I think had Michael and Juan been in attendance, we might've gotten an official 4th Part to this reunion. But sadly, there really is nowhere for them to go from here than to make cast changes. I'm saddened that Monique is not returning, but I understand why. I hate to think Gizelle/Candiace etc. are cackling right now about how they "won," but perhaps one of *them* won't be asked back...? Even though Ashley wasn't in the middle of things as much this reunion, her and creepy Michael help make Potomac what it is, just as Alex & Simon's unconventional marriage helped round out the early years of NYC. As long as The Grande Dame and Ashley return, I'll gladly tune in next season. And Robyn can return only so we can continue seeing Juan. I agree "a thousand percent!" (©Jill Zarin). All the more infuriating when you see bad behavior continuously rewarded (See: 86% of the Beverly Hills cast). I'm sure Gizzard will get another year, just as Rinna, Richards, Erotika etc. did on BH for two years straight now.

LOL y'all are reading something out of nothing.

Yeah, I don't get why primetime network melodramas have to be so fast-paced and plot oriented. We got through watching Filthy Rich on FOX (the one with Kim Cattrall) and once again, a drama on speed. They burn through plot so quickly with no reflection or ramifications or a real sense of the characters. The streaming shows do it right, why are the networks so skittish on slowing things down? +1 This Is Us is the one exception to the rule. I would also say A Million Little Things has a good pace.

Agreed. The article posted certainly highlighted on the newer (i.e. those who've been around for 3-4 years) folks needing to step up their game. On nights when Cecily Strong is off, Aidy is MIA, and McKinnon only does the opening sketch, there are some weak sauce players and the skits don't gel. They've got a great team of players overall, but I agree some of the sideline players need to sieze the moment and become the next big breakouts. That said, newbies Bowen Yang kills it in everything he does, and Chloe Fineman is definitely picking up the pace. And Ego excels - they need to build on her.

Thank you for these ratings nuggets of info. Ever since the demise of TVByTheNumbers, I've forgotten to check numbers out. Great for Potomac though! And glad to hear SLC is a success.

I was thinking the same thing. By herself, she's harmless. She'll always be a supporting player no matter what, but without Gizelle to prop her up, I'd like to see how/if she stands on her own. Gizelle is the Kyle Richards and Karen is the Lisa Vanderpump. Bravo/Andy went into Potomac thinking Gizelle would be the breakout star just as he and Kyle herself thought *she* would be the breakout of Beverly Hills, but the fabulous elders took over as the fan faves. Candiace has zero sincerity about anyone on this show. Zero. Preach! And yes, I loved how Bravo's own editing team betrayed Andy's words. Nice try Miss Cohen.

Yikes. Shane got it bad. Let's see how Sloppy Kelly Dodd reacts.

What bugs me the most about Gizelle's new home is that she has put ZERO effort into any type of landscaping. From the outside, it looks like a condemned house. Plant a bush, get some mulch, get some rocks, put in some cute trees... something!! +1 Yaaass! RHOA: Yes @j swift LaToya is a definite try-hard. I wasn't impressed. I'm liking what I see of Drew so far. The marriage of her and Ralph is contentious to say the least, but on a shallow note --- WOW --- he's giving Apollo and Ed Hartwell a run for their money as the all-time hottest House Husband, at least in my opinion

Side note: I loved how Karen used Gizelle’s own tag line (“word on the street”) against her a good three times or so. 😝

Wendy Oafsefo trying with that "aggressive" comment against Ashley, but she's okay with her BFF Candy Cane calling Monique a hood rat? Gurl bye. Please be a one-and-done. Robyn asking what's the point of all this? Um, the chickens have come home to roost, miss booboo the foo'. Gizzard, Crusty Cane, and Cha-Cha got down and dirty, trying to plant a disgusting rumor about Monique's child and her family, and it's time to pay the price. That's the point. Karen's direct questions to Gizzard had me hollering. Monique's flawless takedown of Gizzard at the end is something every single housewife on these shows should take note of, especially those who have been wronged by other women [Side note: I could see someone like Lisa Rinna doing this at the next Beverly Hills reunion, but it'll be for ugliness and viciousness, not vindication]. Someone put a muzzle on Crusty Cane. Just because you're loud, doesn't mean you're right (© Bethenny Frankel). That was such a treat to watch. I even enjoyed the lightheartedness at the beginning where they all clowned each other's fashion and hair choices of the past 5 years. I'm wondering that too. We're past the point of light shade and catty banter. Some people will be refusing to film with others (they already did that to Monique this past season). Between Monique vs. the women on the right couch (plus Robyn), Ashley's hubby vs. Crusty's hubby, plus Karen and Gizelle taking it down to a new level, I'm wondering what next season will look like... However, if the Hugers and Darbys can still break bread together, anything is possible. And another example of why Karen and Ashley are MVP's and both are necessary for this franchise.

EPIC. What will surely go down in Housewives herstory....

I cannot wait to read this thread, LOL because "Potomac gave me LIFE!" was my exact thought and Gizelle's stank ass with nothing to say to Monique and Karen left me dead, buried, resurrected and dead all over again. Monique was BOSS and gave zero effs with all the tea she dropped... and it's only PART ONE! LIVING for Potomac! Monique and Karen are the MVP's hands down.

Perfectly stated Cat. ICAM. Especially the part above about Karen. We get it. We get the schtick and the pomp and circumstance.

What did Porsha say to Gizelle on the Chatroom? I didn't watch. God, that was a fun, delicious finale. We were rolling with laughter watching Michael drown his sorrows as his wanted lover became betrothed to another. Lawd, can he be any more obvious? But we can see there is a friendship there, as Juan confirmed everything is cool with them. But man, is Michael Darby a messy, creepy drunk. He didn't deserve to be manhandled by Candiace's hubby (I can't remember his name either) who was way too hot-tempered, but Michael's erratic "you're going to jail!" with that crazed expression on his face was creepy AF. And then he continued afterwards with the production team. MESSY! Another creepy moment: when he said he and Juan should do a bachelor event in Las Vegas, just the two of them alone, with no cameras. And then let out the maniacal laugh. LOL. Charrisse suddenly needing a drink right when the conversation was getting good. LOL. Thank you production team! Dr. Wendy acting a fool when Juan was getting on his knee to propose to Robyn. Girl, you've known the bitch for 5 minutes! Sit down! Aside from that, I actually really liked the therapy session Robyn and Juan had. I think they'd benefit from a new more sessions to get to the root of their original breakup (off-camera, of course). If the hags think they can ice out Karen and Ashley like they're Season 4 Jill/LuAnn/Kelly trying to boot off Alex McCord, sorry ladies, but Karen and Ashley are the Bethennys of Potomac; they won't be leaving until they're good and ready to leave on their own. Monique: WINNING. This reunion is gonna be gooooood. Bring on the binder, Mrs. Samuels!

SLC Yeah, hubby made note of that busted up Toyota too. It's all a ruse for the cameras. I think she could be another Charrisse, playing it off like she's rich and fabulous, but has an out-of-town hubby that's all but divorced her. But we'll see. The polar icecaps are melting and Lisa actually softened in this episode. I finally kinda liked her. She comes off much better as a close friend to Meredith. Let's play the drinking game every time Lisa over enunciates the phrase "I LOVE THAT" though. LOL. Glug glug glug... Cousins Heather and Whitney continue to be the winning team. Very level-headed people. Heather is a great friend. She will have your back but can take a step back and sees the clear picture when their friend is in the wrong (i.e. Jen). Jen's blowup towards Meredith was ridiculous. I've seen ridiculous Housewives tiffs and this one is probably one of the most petty ones I've ever seen. Jen is trying too hard and looking like a clown. Kudos to Meredith for "disengaging." And a big F--K YOU to Jen for spilling all the tea about Meredith's marriage, and the game of telephone trickled down to nearly ever other castmember. That was dirty of Jen. In the words of non-factor Dr. Wendy Osefo, "she's not your friend," Meredith. Mary's lunch was odd but so fun to watch. She's giving Ramona Singer a run for her money with the googly eyes. You know what? I really like this show. I'm a fan.

Oh Dayumn!

I'm a fan! In all honesty, since it was originally viewed as a "This Is Us" ripoff, I find myself watching this before catching up on This Is Us. I'm in agreement that the characters work best as an ensemble although there are some standouts.

Oh Dorit... WHY? RHOP is on fire and continues to deliver. I echo everyone's statements on Sunday's episode and that beautiful bombshell Karen gave the audience, and Ashley unbothered by Candiace's response. Team Karen/Ashley/Monique all the way. Love the mutual respect & understanding between "lil miss Ashley" and the "Grande Dame of Potomac." They're great at fighting each other but even better when they're on the same side. Looking forward to next Sunday's show with the entrance of Monique back into the fold. The reunion is going to be EPIC!

@Taoboi Great write-up; I agree with all. Now that I'm getting a better sense of these women individually, I do think Jen is doing too much and trying to be too much. I'm sure she studied the other Housewives franchises long and hard before coming up with what type of "character" she was going to portray herself to be. Meanwhile, Mary's explanation and apology was enough, and then Jen continued using the same incorrect dialogue "you said I smell like hospital!" "No, I said it smells like hospital." At least it got squashed. Knowing Housewives though, I'm sure it'll be the catalyst for further tension between the two. [Side note: Hubby can't stand Jen.] After episode two, I'm finding myself liking Heather, Whitney, and Meredith the most. There was something very endearing about Meredith and her situation with her husband. She also seems pretty level-headed and self-aware. I question her fashion choices, but nobody's perfect. Also, the way she talks reminds me of the late Carrie Fisher, so I like that. Like others have said, Whitney is one that comes off as a vapid airhead at first glance, but there's real depth and intelligence to her. She was wise not to bring up the "swingers" rumor with Lisa because the focus of the conversation would turn to that. Smart cookie. And I like that we have a genuine family connection on this show with her and Heather. Heather continues to be my favorite. She's not the ice queen, she's not the glam queen, she's not the queen bee, but she's entertaining and real and I love her energy. Lisa is icy, but she'll provide a good bitchy dynamic to the group. Mary is kooky and will provide excellent memes and gifs in the social media world. And gosh... I don't know what summer is like in SLC, but the wintertime is visual heaven. That view we see outside Meredith's place in her talking head shots. I'm in awe. I'd be in Christmas wonderland this time of year.

Dang, they're doing it. They're gonna make the OG's stick old like sore thumbs as the musty old broads of the series. LuAnn can make friends with anyone, but I'll be interested in seeing how Ramona really gets along with the younger newbies, as the feelings of being iced off her own show will surely creep in. ... and no Heather?

@Taoboi @ChitHappens I ended up really liking Watchmen! I had no clue about the story prior to watching, so the first episode was weird and random. Hubby peaced out after the first episode but I stuck through it and loved it. It was about half-way through the series that I finally pieced it together how it all connected. Regina King was boss as always, and on a shallow note, you get to see quite an eyeful of Yahya Abdul-Mateen II I recommend! I'm really loving The Handmaid's Tale too. If the thing that currently occupies the White House had been re-elected, I'd probably feel a different way while watching it, but I am enjoying it. It's one of those shows where you look forward to all the flashbacks because it helps paint a full picture about how they got to where they are today. Another one I recommend!

Nah girl, I loved it. No Potomac fatigue here. I agree with your write-up though. Ashley has shown growth and I don't have a problem calling out Candiace for the way she doubted Ashley's sincerity about starting a family last year. Yes, Ashley needs to own her messy pot-stirring ways of yore, but I feel she had a point about Candiace. And Candiace's reactions and replies are always stank and emotionless. She thinks way too highly of herself and her position on this show. The prank was hilarious and I loved their breaking the 4th wall and watching the producer cam footage. Karen continues to mother and guide Candiace, but I feel her efforts are falling on deaf ears. Meanwhile, years after Ashley's first comment about Ray's dick, Robyn reveals a lil truth bomb about Karen not wanting to go home to Ray's dick and how she dreads having sex with him. GULP! Awkward! Candiace/Gizelle/Robyn need to understand that Ashley coming to Monique's defense is to help keep Monique out of jail, potentially. In no way is Candiace in danger of the same fate. Shedding light on Candiace's butterknife-weilding ways isn't going to land her in the slammer.

Ooh. Cannot wait. So onto the newbie, SLC.... I loved Jen, but my hubby thought she was too much fakery for the cameras. God, the real estate and the views on this show are spectacular. As soon as COVID is over, we're booking a flight to SLC to visit my brother and new wife in Ogden. The one set-back? Mormons think black people have no souls. And some say gingers have no souls. So we'd be a gay interracial soulless couple... not sure how welcoming the city would be, LOL. Is it Meredith who has the gay son? I liked that. I liked that they didn't announce his sexual orientation, it was just a fact. And he does her makeup. Love! His voice reminds me of Olympic ice skater Adam Rippon (met him last year... quite the ice skater booty on him, yum! But I digress...) The set-up with the rose petals all over the floor made no sense though. The husband paid for it, the son put it together, and the wife just comes home and looks at a mess on the floor that she'll have to clean up? Pass. I feel like Heather is going to be the Greek chorus of this series. She is funny, blunt, honest, and real. She's rougher around the edges and not your typical beauty queen and that's why I like her. This show looks promising and fun!

Recently did Ratched, The Watchmen, and now just finished season 1 of The Handmaid's Tale. Starting season 2 tonight. Under His Eye.