Gray Bunny

Word. "I didn't want another politician in the White House," I heard people say back in 2016. It's like, what line of work do you think the President of the United States is? Podiatry? Kindergarten teacher? Plumber? Idiots...

Thank you for your feedback You've hit the nail on the head by all accounts. At this point, we have distanced ourselves from her. She's reached out to us a couple times to check in or just casually comment on social media posts, but she's totally off in her own world of Carlo and his circle of friends. Some updates though... Diana and my hubby spoke on the phone a few days ago and I guess we're going to do a Zoom wine meeting this weekend to catch up. We'll see if this actually happens, and if she's allowed to spend more than 30 minutes talking with us, and we'll see if we can tell if she's being monitored or not (I'm sure Carlo will always be within earshot). Also, one time, I saw her walking with a guy (she lives in our neighborhood but rarely is at her own place anymore). The guy she was with was super fit, jacked, shirtless, and I'm like "whoa who's that and why is she with him and why does she look so busted next to this Adonis?" Turns out, that's one of Carlo's friends (of course), but she referred to him as a "family friend." To which my hubby asked, "Oh, a friend of yours and your mom's?" No, a friend of Carlos and his circle of friends. And then Diana finally admits (off-handedly) that she and Carlo are in an open relationship and that she wants to sleep with the jacked muscle dude (can't say I blame her, but, still. Weird admission to make). A mutual friend who does makeup professionally told us she did Diana's makeup a couple weeks ago and that Diana was definitely different than from what she remembered a year ago, and that everything she talked about was Carlos, Carlos, Carlos. But the real kicker was the latest twist from last week when our neighbor friends who own a camper mentioned to us that they just rented their camper out to Carlos. When they initially spoke with Carlos, he seemed really hyper, anxious and was brief about everything. Even though Carlos was cool with paying a good amount of money upfront, they felt something was off, so our neighbor friends did a little background check and of course saw the drug felony charges in Florida, but also saw that we were Facebook friends with him. So they tell us that when it came time to pick up their camper (Carlos had rented it for a week), they drove to Carlos' residence. When they drove up, Carlos' garage door comes up and they make eye contact with Carlos. Then, as they're getting out of their truck, they see about a dozen people just SCATTER into the woods including Carlos! They get out of their truck and Carlos has disappeared, all the other random people went off into the wooded areas (by the alpacas? in the newly built adult tree house? Who knows!) and so our neighbor friends can't do an official inspection checklist with Carlos as is customary to do. Not only were a couple things broken, but they found pill capsules in their camper. Shocker, right? Not only did Carlos rent their camper, but there were around 8 other campers on the property as well. So it was clearly some big party event on Carlos' compound that week. At the same time, Diana posted a couple photos on her Instagram of her in a very revealing outfit with people around her, where she said she and her friends did their own recreation of Burning Man, but that "out of respect for everyone involved, I won't say when these were taken or where this was, but we remained safe and healthy." Clearly, this was taken that week on his property. In her conversation with my hubby, Diana also mentioned that 5 of the people in the circle of friends have gotten COVID and that at this point, she "hopes she just gets it and be over it," even though she has asthma. Sounds like a deluded Trumpian way of thinking, even though the last time we saw her in March, she was serious about staying safe and being smart. When we see photos of her, there's a dead look in her eyes. Like Britney Spears at her worst where there was no affect; just cold dead eyes. Anyways, that's where things stand currently. We will in fact casually mention the camper story, as it'll show her this town isn't so big and you never know what people are gonna find out.

Thank you for sharing no need to apologize. I will never know your struggle firsthand, but I see it through my hubby. The perpetual discrimination inside a group that's already marginalized is a very real and aggravating clusterfunk. I will share one thing about my better half in terms of his career. We used to live in Chicago (small duck in a large pond) for years. Now we're in a smaller city (approx. 200K people), and in his professional field, he's a freaking unicorn and is in HOT demand. He works high up in the mental health field, and him being a man, him being black, him being gay is the mecca trifecta in his field. [Granted, a smaller town presents a new problem with racism, be it overt or covert, but I digress...] I applaud your decision and efforts to make a big change in your life. Indeed, pain is an indicator that change is needed. You're a unicorn, baby Shine bright like a diamond.

Yeah... petty though it may come off, but she is not wrong on her assessment.

Oh man... that’s bad.

Truth is stranger than fiction, sadly. I'm ready for this soap opera to be CANCELLED! Immediately! Give them no time for a grande finale, a la Search for Tomorrow, Love of Life, or Santa Barbara. Don't drag it out for nearly a year like As the Trump Turns. What's scary is that, aside from a landslide victory for Biden, we won't get our shocking series finale ender on Nov. 3rd. It'll drag out like a Real Housewives reunion or Secrets Revealed episode.

& @Taoboi Yeah, we won't talk about my dad.... He's so far down the rabbit hole of Fox Propaganda, he's lucky I don't have power of attorney to commit him...

As much as Ramona has entertained me these past 10 years of my life, seeing a strong liberal woman of color join the cast has me very happy. Meanwhile, Bravo is really pushing their narrative of Leah being this huge breakout star like she's Bethenny Frankel circa 2009. Tonight, Bravo is airing a "Best of Leah Moments." Lord... are 15 minute soaps back? C'mon.

Just outta curiosity, how are people on this board voting? Mail-in? Early? Day of? I'm [unfortunately] a Wisconsinite now, so I feel very protective of my vote and am going to vote in person on Nov. 3rd. My husband (who LIED to me and said he voted in 2016 but didn't... though we were living in Hillary-lovin' Chicago at the time) is voting by mail. My sister, who never gets into politics, registered to vote for the first time in her life to help flip WI back to blue, and her husband (who voted Trump in 2016 but quickly regretted it), is doing his part to get WI back to blue too. But anyhow, I just don't want any funky business happening and want to cast it in person versus mail-in.

@Soapsuds my condolences to you, my friend.

Re: Denise F**king Richards gif for Monique's receipts. Yep! And we know Monique's delivery will be eons better than Denise's reunion performance. WORD to the part in bold. And as I said last week, my husband has made immense progress in his own therapy for dealing with anger issues. Has hubby lashed out? Absolutely. Does he regret his actions? Absolutely. Does he still have moments where he WANTS to get physical? Absolutely. Does he? Absolutely not. HOWEVER... hubby was literally having a trigger moment watching Potomac last night and seeing this narrative of Candiace trying to paint herself as this innocent victim. It is something that my hubby's former friend did in order to make herself look innocent without fault, while making my hubby look like a typical angry black man. I had to quickly diffuse the situation and not let REAL television affect REAL life. No, he didn't pop off, but you could tell he wanted to take a break from watching to let out a mini vent. It hits close to home for him.

Gutter trash. POTOMAC: Wow, that was a ride! Definitely one of the all-time best episodes of any franchise. Right up there with Scary Island. I *loved* that piping hot tea Monique spilled on WWHL. So direct and matter-of-fact. You know she has ALL those receipts lined up and ready to dish out when the time is right come reunion time. From Gizelle's 8-year affair to the Candaice/Charrisse/Gizelle plan to say her child was the product of an affair with her trainer... it's all coming out and I can't wait to see it play out. Wow. Kudos to Karen and Ashley for having Monique's back. Side Note: I can see this being Monique's exit, by her own choice. Set it on fire and walk away as it burns down...

See, now THIS is why I love RHONY. These bitches know how to have FUN and Bravo knows how to present them as fun. I was laughing the whole time during the Secrets Revealed episode. So much different feeling than watching the RHOBH secrets. Side Note: I'm already tired of this narrative of Leah being the "future of RHONY." Bitch, you had one good season. Let's see how you fare during the 2nd season curse.

@Vee and everyone who posts these twitter posts, updates, and links to various sources on this Politics thread, I just want to give a shout out and thank you. I don't post much in this thread, but I'm always reading and checking out the resourceful links you post. Thank you, thank you, thank you. There's my gratitude post. The thing with the 103 degree fever gets no sympathy from me.

What a great day!

Your posts give me hope I just don't want to see this man come back stronger and tougher two weeks from now saying it's not a big deal and it's just like the common flu and yadayadayada. Side note: Despite what's going on, we better not be deprived of a Pence/Harris debate!

She always looked like she had a stiff neck like the dude from 90 Day Fiance. LOL at her demotion. Someone behind the scenes is FINALLY listening.

I get calls all the time that I presume are political, based on the numbers calling and based upon the fact that I'm signed up to receive text alerts and get A LOT. My husband will answer his because of the nature of his job and then just hang up. One time, he got one that was Republican-based and he told them to eff off. I taught him well.

I'm counting on Kelly getting the bad edit and this being her final year. Honestly, I don't have high hopes for OC this season, but they could prove me wrong. Right now as I see it, if OC never returned I wouldn't miss it.

I echo pretty much everything people are saying about POTOMAC's epic episode. I actually loved they went back to "everyday life" after the big fight, knowing what was slowly simmering for the weeks ahead. And I also appreciated how they cut any background music or hype and just let the footage of the fight play out and speak for itself. REAL. Beverly Hills, take note: Viewers are not interested in fakery fluff anymore. I am married to someone who has "seen red" from time to time. It is a blinding rage of anger and it is something that needs to be acknowledged, worked through, and hopefully contained if a future heated moment arises. Monique is by no means innocent (and her side-stepping producers on the staircase and going back out to find Candaice was all a part of the same thread of that blinding rage... she hadn't come down from her "high" yet), but Candaice had it coming to her. Sorry if there's disagreement on that. I hope Monique has gotten through her anger issues, as my hubby has done, because he's come a long way and I've seen the progress and change. Candaice was the Kenya and Monique was the Porsha. Candaice poked the wrong bear. Candaice fights with her tongue; Monique fights with her fists. And so goes Krystle Carrington dragging Alexis' ass into the lily pond. +1 to everyone's sentiments regarding Karen being the MVP, Karen and Ray, Ashley rightfully getting her coins, and Gizelle's dad on the hot mic... Great episode. Can't wait for next week!

NYC: Dorinda almost semi-redeemed herself at the end of the night where she acknowledged she was in a bad place and had anger and maybe should've taken a year off. Maybe she'll be back in Season 14 (if the rest of the OG's are still there...). Dorinda was a shitty friend to Ramona but it's funny how Ramona gets no sympathy from the audience via Twitter. Oh well. Side Note: On WWHL, Andy had Bethenny on, and a lil nugget of info slipped when he asked her a series of questions regarding regrets over the years on RHONY. He asked if she regretted making Alex McCord "the messenger" in the 3rd season when she relayed that message to Jill, and she said, "No because that's what kept her on the show." Makes me think perhaps Alex was already on the chopping block during filming of the 3rd season (hence bringing on Sonja and Jennifer, with Sonja ultimately getting the Housewife spot). I for one am glad she stuck around through seasons 3 and 4. Otherwise, we'd never have gotten that wonderful "Herman Munster shoes" dig via LuAnn....

I look forward to reading about Kyle and Terri's longstanding friendship that has remained years from now. Kidding. She will drop Terri DeMarco faster than GL dropped Signy Coleman.

I feel like Rinna's one where if they give her enough rope, she'll hang herself. And they're counting on it. Like Dorinda, like Nene, like Vicki... I'm sure they can see the trajectory of a popular housewife becoming strongly disliked. [Sadly, we'll never be rid of Kyle until the show itself ends]. Which means Rinna will probably get one more year.

Ha! Someone's been reading our comments, lol. Oh wait, it's just what EVERYONE has been saying these past 3 years. I nominate this for Best Housewives GIF of 2020. I hope to see this one a lot as casting news of RHOBH continues to leak...

LOL...