YRfan23

2 hours ago, Franko said:

Who knows how long this will last, but ...

@SoapDope @soapfan770 @Soapsuds @Vee @DRW50 @Khan @kalbir @EricMontreal22 @AbcNbc247 @Broderick @vetsoapfan @Paul Raven @BoldRestless @cassadine1991 @titan1978 @Darn @DanMan869 @yrfan1983 @YRfan23 ... and anyone else I didn't think to tag.

Thank You!!!! 😁

6 hours ago, Broderick said:

Melody Thomas thought one time that SHE had the last word. It was right after Nikki and Brad bought their way into Jabot circa 1999 or 2000. Nikki was in Victor's office, and he was lambasting her for "throwing away $30 million to join Jabot, when you're not qualified to hold any kind of job." Nikki said, "Well, when you decide you'd like to have a rational conversation about this, call me. In the meantime, here's my CARD!!" Melody Thomas flicked her new Jabot business card onto his desk and RAN for the door like her skirt was on fire, because she was determined to get the last line. Just before she slammed the door behind her, he mumbled, "Ummm-huh. Have a nice day, you hear." You could see the rage on her face 🤣

lol, didn’t he actually say “keep your damn card!!!” Or something like that as she walked out?? 😂😂 I can understand MTS frustration but She kind of set herself up for failure if the card flick wasn’t scripted….lol

11 minutes ago, Broderick said:

And Miss Dickson flat-out admitted that. (Wasn't it a behind-the-scenes special on Entertainment TV, or something?) She basically said, "I don't know what the big deal was. We could've easily come in the following Saturday and shot my scenes." Yeah, right, bring the director, the entire light and sound crew, all the camera guys, all the stage hands, hair and makeup, everyone else to the studio on a Saturday to shoot her scenes because she pitched a tantrum Friday afternoon. It would've cost SONY and Bell Dramatic Serial Co thousands & thousands of dollars to do that. But she didn't care; she didn't think it was a problem at all.

And y'all remember what pandemonium it was that summer. One day you'd hear the voiceover, "The role of Jill Abbott is being played today by Deborah Adair." The next day, Miss Dickson would return, giving one of the most bizarre performances of her career. Then Jill might have a day off, and then the next day, "The role of Jill Abbott is being played today by Deborah Adair." Then Miss Dickson would return the following day, weirder than ever. Until finally, that fateful day -- "The role of Jill Abbott is NOW being played by Jess Walton." I remember us laughing about it at my house for the two or three weeks that it was occurring, until finally the sobering realization hit -- they've actually kicked her ass out the door for good.

Obviously, the constant rescheduling, the hiring of replacements, the auditioning of a permanent actress to play the role --- ALL of that was costing them time & money.

Peter Bergman talked about his little tiff with Victor recently on some broadcast (was it that SOAPY podcast Greg Rikaart does?) What I gathered from it is that Bergman was a bit of a perfectionist, learning his lines verbatim, coming to work prepared to give a practiced, polished, rehearsed performance. Braeden, in contrast, was pretty much just winging it, getting the gist of the scene but "massaging" his dialogue pretty drastically, not sticking to the scripts very rigidly, and just "making the scene work" by saying & doing things he felt Victor would do under the circumstances -- which obviously worked-out fine to the TV audience but was probably fairly grueling for his costars.

And any of y'all who've ever acted before can see it from both Bergman & Braeden's point-of-view. If you're an actor who wants to stick to the script -- and you know your lines and everyone else's lines when you show up for rehearsal -- the worst thing you can encounter is an "improv" actor who barely even looked at his script the night before. And if you're a seat-of-the-pants improv-type actor, the most irritating thing you can encounter is a "script perfectionist" who pauses the rehearsal and announces, "YOU didn't give me the right cue! And you were supposed to CROSS BEHIND THE DESK on your THIRD line, NOT on your FIFTH line!" We've all been there & done that. And it can lead to a lot of tension. If it's a stage play, you quickly learn that you don't wanna deal with that particular actor in another show ever, but if it's a continuing television situation, you've just gotta work it out, which Jack and Victor evidently did eventually because they seem to respect each other now, although they probably both still have the same rehearsal/performance traits now that they had in the 1990s.

Even Jeanne Cooper said she hated doing scenes with EB because he would always have Victor say the last word, (which of course he’s known for doing) Even if it’s not scripted for him to do so. She boosts about how she was able to “beat him” One time, because she walked out and said the line (not sure if it was improvised) and that would mean Victor saying something to an “empty seat”…..

personally I feel a lot of actors have gotten the last word over Victor many times then they think, though I guess the frustration comes from EB doing it unexpectedly when other actors think they should have gotten the last line in? Nowadays I think Braeden just sticks with whoever is suppose to have the last line, because most of the time A show ends with Victor or him saying the line it’s definitely more scripted sounding IMO

44 minutes ago, Broderick said:

Remember the deal with Peter Bergman & Eric Braeden and their little fisticuffs incident in the early 1990s? My understanding is that they were gonna get the axe from Y&R if they didn't kiss and make-up. Well, obviously if they HAD gotten the axe, they would've both gotten other offers due to their popularity at the time.

BUT if they'd been fired and one of them had filed a $10 million termination suit against SONY, I doubt any other producer would've touched the plaintiff with a 10-foot pole. (I've always felt that Miss Dickson cooked her own goose career-wise by filing suit. She scared off any potential offers with that. If she'd gone away quietly, you know someone else would've hired her, especially considering that she looked even better than she had looked eleven and one-half years earlier 😅)

I know a lot of people are tired of Victor these days, but it definitely would have really hurt to lose Braeden during that time. Bergman would have probably gotten back on AMC, or maybe GH would have had a role for him?

What's done is done RE: Brenda, but it's a shame because any soap would have been happy to have her. I swear Bill Bell was willing to make amends and wanted her to come on B&B as Sally, but that was probably just a big rumor?

3 hours ago, Broderick said:

All that "controversial ordeal" about Brenda Dickson getting fired in 1987 --- I always figured it was a combination of EVERYBODY telling the truth about what happened (even Brenda Dickson herself).

Yes, her performance had become extremely hammy to the point it was sometimes laughable. I never had any problem at all with how she played the character. She was completely over-the-top and camp, but after all, Jill had recently divorced John Abbott and taken 20% of Jabot, and for the first time in her life, Jill thought she was on equal footing with Kay Chancellor. Brenda Dickson evidently interpreted that to mean Jill would affect a pseudo-British accent, wiggle her hips more, jiggle her breasts more, and stare haughtily into the distance while speaking to people she looked down on, which was practically everyone in Genoa City. Except Brad Carlton, lol.

We know that certain actors on the show didn't much care for her (Jerry Douglas comes to mind immediately). We also know that Brenda Dickson had purchased a Mercedes with a personalized license plate that said "JILL" on it. She seemed to sometimes have difficulty "coming down" from her campy performance, and she evidently sashayed around at times believing she was Jill Abbott instead of Brenda Dickson.

We also know that Melody Thomas had married producer Edward Scott in 1985 and had transitioned from being a "Tier Three" character in the late 1970s to an important young ingenue by 1982. After marrying Ed Scott, she probably had a bit more input into the producer's ear. From what Miss Dickson has claimed, the "West Coast producers" filed reports about on-set activities with the Chicago-based writer (Bill Bell) that Miss Dickson didn't believe were completely accurate.

Clearly, Ed Scott & Tom Langan had developed certain ideas about how Miss Dickson should be playing her character (and behaving in the studio) that differed from Miss Dickson's theatrical interpretation. Bill Bell might've also been frustrated with how extremely campy she'd gotten. And some of her castmates were also outdone with her antics.

It was all the perfect storm for her to get fired, and I doubt she helped her case any by announcing she would dictate when she would work and when she wouldn't work. (And Bill Bell wasn't helping by writing into 4 out of every 5 episodes.) I wasn't the least bit surprised when she was shown out the door. And I also suspected everyone who spoke about the matter was telling what they believed to be a truthful account of what happened.

Of course the coup de grace was when she filed her $10 million lawsuit against SONY for her dismissal. That pretty much closed the door on her ever returning to Y&R, and it also caused other producers on other shows to view her as a trouble-maker who wasn't worth hiring. It was all a shame.

The sad thing I wonder about though , is if any male soap stars that behaved like Brenda on and off set, would have probably just gotten a free pass and not basically blacklisted like she did?

More of an insult but she called both Dani and Shanice "Two Trifling H*es" a few months back...that one has always been funny to me! 🤣

Speaking of "Glinda", "Nessa" is a nickname she gave Vanessa recently...LOL

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

Shirtless guys everywhere and guys kissing.

Sounds like a winning formula.

Never mind Electra was on. She is sooooooo boring. She sucks!

Yeah I wish I could have faith Bradley could sustain this all, but I do appreciate the fact we have “Gen Z” getting the spotlight on the show. GH is also thriving with its younger cast I think.

10 hours ago, Vee said:

Cheers to @Errol for backing this one up, though it's been floating around: Allegedly, BTG wanted Gina Tognoni (Y&R, OLTL, GL) for Heather Armstrong a.k.a. crime boss The Impaler.

Man! Nothing against Ashley Jones but that would have been awesome!

5 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

I can't recall a single scene either.

But apart from Lowder's Rick running through Sydney's botanical gardens shouting "Phoebe, Phoebe, Phoebe!) (nakid of course), the car crash death and his romance with Eileen Davidson's Ashley, his entire tenure is blank in my memory. I thought he was dropped in 2009 already. LOL

Yeah I was going though the episodes when Amber returned circa summer 2010, and KL’s Rick was pretty much already out the door. He had that weird arc of going after Jackie, but he was pretty much done. Amber had a scene with Brooke 2 months after her return asking how to renew her relationship with Rick But nothing came From That.

Kristoff St John on a CTV talk show in 1995.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRWxOmlKlEE

Random Question but did Amber and Kyle Lowders Rick have any scenes together? I don’t remember seeing them interact circa 2010-2011 before Jacob Young returned.

5 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

-- Why was Victor written as leaving before the tornado? NONE of that timeline made any sense.

Because it’s Victor….lol

All joking aside maybe EB was only signed on and only able to do his 2 appearances.

Haven’t watched today’s episode but the fact they they used a tornado as the catalyst for the event, makes me feel nostalgia for when Passions had the Prom Boat Disaster Summer 2000. Reminds me of better days for soaps!

2 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

Those girls wanting to kiss Matt don't watch Y&R!

LOL I was watching and thinking: "Wow they actually watch each other's show" but then I realized they probably just gave out names....

sigh though....Matt and Cane...really....🙄 shocked Nick wasn't included....

I actually like this BTG version of Victor and all his interactions so far! EB seems like he’s really enjoying this change of scenery and getting to play Victor on another soap too….beats him sitting on the ranch just barking orders at people…

7 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

And what a plan. Matt will get close to Cane to uncover information that Victor will use to DESTROY Cane!!!

I can already predict this is gonna turn into Matt and Cane teaming up to try to double cross Victor….hes obviously gonna remember right when the plan is set in stone, but still gonna pretend so he can strike back at the Newman’s….

6 hours ago, Liberty City said:

Of course Dana is overhearing the power players of Genoa City arriving in Fairmont Crest for Martin's fundraiser.

Ooohhh we are hopefully gonna get some Victor/Leslie and Jack/Leslie scenes!!!😂😂😂 too bad we don’t have Nikki’s stank eye there to stare daggers at Leslie but Diane will hopefully fill that void!

I’ll give this a read/listen! 🙂 I thought the Passions one was pretty good and that was obviously more of a fan book too.

3 minutes ago, wonderwoman1951 said:

this episode’s not getting off to a good start: vernon blowing smoke up victor’s a**; smitty has a five part series, but still no proper workspace. and while i. know processing grief takes. time, these scenes with ashley and jacob lamenting derek’s death are becoming tiresome. i know it’s still fresh, but this is television, not real life.

Sigh…yeah I’m not too fond of the fact Vernon and Victor are friends…25 years ago I’d buy it maybe, but I feel like If Vernon knew some of the stunts he pulled recently he would be wise to disassociate himself with him….then again I feel like the BTG version of Victor is just annoying what we’ve seen on screen recently.

9 hours ago, Broderick said:

I sort of enjoy episodes like today's show, where the writers basically "pour their storyline bible backstory" onto the screen. We saw it a few weeks ago in a Jacob/Naomi episode, and now we saw it today with Dani, Bill, Hayley, Naomi, and Chelsea. I wouldn't want an episode like this every WEEK, but for once in a blue moon, it's an interesting way to show the lives of the characters prior to February 2025.

I agree! I kind of like it too. I hope they do ones for Smitty and Martin and also Leslie/Eva at some point.

50 minutes ago, kalbir said:

@YRfan23 Christine is too saintly to bitch slap anyone.

AFAIK I don't think a Christine/Phyllis confrontation has ever turned physical.

Haha well she definitely didn't act "saintly" when she Kicked Michael in the balls all the way back in 1992! 😁

39 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

And thanks to @YRfan23 ’s episode counts, I see Billy Flynn’s appearances are also diminishing along with the train set…

Your Welcome! 😁

Man, I wanted Christine to slap Phyllis so hard, that her loud mouth went flying halfway Cross Country to LA to land on the spot RJ got "sucker punched" by Will on B&B!!! 🤣

May 2026 Episode Rankings
A total of 20 Episodes aired this Month
Thanks as always @jcar03 !

1.) Michelle Stafford (Phyllis Summers) : 18
2.) Roger Howarth (Matt Clark) : 17
3.) Joshua Morrow (Nick Newman) : 15
4.) Eric Braeden (Victor Newman) : 14
5.) Lucas Adams (Noah Newman) : 10
.) Stacey Haiduk (Patty Williams) : 10
7.) Sharon Case (Sharon Newman) : 9
8.) Peter Bergman (Jack Abbott) : 8
.) Mark Grossman (Adam Newman) : 8
.) Christel Khalil (Lily Winters) : 8
.) Christian LeBlanc (Michael Baldwin) : 8
.) Melody Thomas Scott (Nikki Newman) : 8
13.) Hayley Erin (Claire Newman) : 7
.) Nathan Owens (Holden Novak) : 7
15.) Billy Flynn (Cane Ashby) : 6
.) Jason Thompson (Billy Abbott) : 6
.) Tracey Bregman (Lauren Fenmore Baldwin) : 6
.) Lauralee Bell (Christine Romalotti) : 6
19.) Courtney Hope (Sally Spectra) : 5
.) Michael Mealor (Kyle Abbott) : 5
.) Tamara Braun (Sienna Bacall) : 5
22.) Melissa Claire Egan (Chelsea Lawson) : 4
23.) Sean Dominic (Nate Hastings) : 3
.) Bryton James (Devon Winters) : 3
.) Zuleyka Silver (Audra Charles) : 3
.) Susan Walters (Diane Jenkins Abbott) : 3
.) Vivica A. Fox (Dr. Stephanie Simmons) : 3
28.) Beth Maitland (Traci Abbott) : 2
29.) Michael Graziadei (Daniel Romalotti) : 1
.) Camryn Grimes (Mariah Copeland) : 1
.) Kate Linder (Esther Valentine) : 1
.) Melissa Ordway (Abby Winters) : 1

May 2026 Episode Rankings
A total of 21 Episodes aired this Month
thanks as always @jcar03!

1.) Scott Clifton (Liam Spencer) : 19
.) Thorsten Kaye (Ridge Forrester) : 19
.) Annika Noelle (Hope Logan Spencer) : 19
4.) Jacqueline Maclnnes Wood (Steffy Forrester Finnegan) : 18
5.) Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke Logan Forrester) : 16
.) Heather Tom (Katie Logan) : 16
6.) Laneya Grace (Electra Forrester) : 14
7.) Sydney Bullock (Melissa Dylan) : 12
8.) Don Diamont (Bill Spencer) : 11
9.) Bryan Nicoletti (RJ Forrester) : 9
10.) Crew Morrow (Will Spencer) : 8
.) Tanner Novlan (Dr. John "Finn" Finnegan) : 8
12.) Jennifer Gareis (Donna Logan Forrester) : 6
13.) Christian Weissman (Remy Price) : 5
14.) Lawrence St. Victor (Carter Walton) : 4
15.) Rebecca Budig (Dr. Taylor Hayes) : 3
.) Delon de Metz (Zende Forrester Domiguez) : 3
17.) Darin Brooks (Wyatt Spencer) : 2
.) Ashley Beloat (Female Patron) : 2
.) Christopher Cato (Male Patron) : 2
.) Dick Christie (Charlie Webber) : 2
.) Jade Coatsworth (Kinglsey) : 2
.) Theodora Greece (Alison) : 2
.) Murielle Hillarie (Daphne Rose) : 2
.) Tyler Kaess (Male Patron) : 2
.) Sean Kanan (Deacon Sharpe) : 2
.) Jazz Jasprett Kaur (Bikini DJ) : 2
.) John McCook (Eric Forrester) : 2
.) Shannon McMullen (Willow) : 2
.) Silly Sheridan (Jessica) : 2
.) Caroline Slater (Female Patron) : 2
.) Mike Cassidy (Stunt Coordinator) : 2
32.) Harrison Cone (Deke Sharpe) : 1
.) Bryan D. Garlick (Hayes Finnegan) : 1
.) Alexis Gaube (Petra) : 1
.) Nick Lannon (Stylist Assistant) : 1
.) Denise Richards (Shauna Fulton) : 1
.) Daniel Shawn Smith (Jesse) : 1

Contract Star(S) Not Appearing this Month
1.) Kimberlin Brown (Sheila Carter)

wow! RIP! 🥺 I've always been more familiar with him through Disney, but Obviously I don't have the history of OLTL like a lot of you do on here, but I always loved the theme song and do listen to it from time to time! Definitely one of the best Soap Themes IMO!