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Just now, AbcNbc247 said:

She had such a nasty attitude after her father died.

It's sad, but I've sadly known lots of people who are estranged from their families...I just wonder what caused this particular one..

12 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Are Liza and Susan estranged? she didn't mention her at all

Sadly they are, based on an Instagram post of Liza's..

Happy for Alley too! 

 

1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

She sucks!

Those poor boys looked on the verge of tears...

I didn't expect much, but that tribute sucked  

Just now, Faulkner said:

No ‘70s clips included unless I missed one.

Nope, they just pulled mostly from the episodes aired during covid, and I think flashbacks from different anniversary stand alone episodes. 

2 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

That makes a lot of sense actually. Play it up for hype and then fire the actress. I can see him doing that.

Yep, he proves over and over he's the true villain of the show...

7 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

And besides, Krista's best chemistry was with KKL!

Let's be real, that's probably why she's gone. Any hint of going "there" is always out of the question for Bradley...

33 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I'm just going in my panties.

WTF??...

I called this instantly, Thudley hasn’t had use for the character of Taylor I would say going back to like 2005ish, so I figured it wouldn’t be long. I feel bad for KA because she seemed to love being on the show and sadly the cast will never throw Thudley into the fire for all the crap he pulls.

1 hour ago, yrfan1983 said:

I guess Bnb had to let Lauren Koslow go, in order to clear a contract slot for Kimberlin Brown.

Hmm? Yeah I wonder that too, but I feel back then soaps would have had more of a budget to keep both characters if they wanted? But maybe that’s true?

2 hours ago, JAS0N47 said:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 4/27/92-5/1/92 & 5/4/92-5/8/92:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 5/11/92-5/15/92 & 5/18/92-5/22/92:

The ratings posts are now on a holiday pause and will return in January with the rest of 1992 and 1993. Happy holidays to all!!

You’ve earned a well deserved rest for all you’ve done!! Have a wonderful Christmas my friend!

17 hours ago, kalbir said:

Guiding Light March 30, 1992 Fiona Hutchison debut.

Guiding Light April 6, 1992 Mindy changes the results of Nick's DNA test.

Y&R April 8, 1992 Olivia learns she is pregnant.

B&B April 22, 1992 Lauren Koslow last episode.

And also on Y&R April 21, 1992, Lauren and Sheila had their epic lab cat fight!  

1 hour ago, BoldRestless said:

You'll have over two years worth of full episodes all in order! After March 1988, there are many episodes, but not a whole complete collection like B&B. I stopped watching at December 1988 myself waiting for more full episodes to come along, sigh.

It is kind of annoying how we don’t really get as many “new” full uploads of classic Y&R these days  archive isn’t even giving that many and at one time it seemed like every other day there was something new that popped up! 
 

what a Christmas gift it would be to end the 50th anniversary celebration if Brad Bell bought out the rights to the Y&R archive and started streaming the episodes in order!  Or even better had all the seasons uploaded and you could choose which season or year to start from! 

1 hour ago, Broderick said:

On 12/10/2023 at 9:16 AM, yrfan1983 said:

 

I wonder if Jill would've ever realized he was the same kid who lived in the Foster house.  Seems like his name was "Charles Victor Howard" when Eve was rooming with Jill.   Then when he reappeared as J Eddie Peck about 12 years later he'd magically become "Cole", lol.    

What else is a bit distracting and proves they did retcon some of the Eve/Cole stuff, is that I thought Victor did spend some time with “Cole” (Charles) when he was a kid and I feel Cole would have remembered those encounters?

RIP Ellen!! 

I agree that it’s a shame all of those episodes of One Life featuring Carla,  no longer exist. Such a pivotal part of history that should still be intact! 

23 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Only the Top 5 scoring more than a 3 a week average. Everyone else below 9th is on 2 a week or less.

I'm not gonna lie too, it's so hard not to put some sort of angry or disgusted emoji whenever Morrow is at the top...haha

15 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

Sure, the marriage for revenge would have worked, without all that sappiness. I saved this old usenet post that describes it well:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps/c/R9K2kCKOKBc/m/HfdVBW0wlxMJ

You see, I have some recollection of Bergman's Cliff Warner during the
height of the Cliff & Nina romance days.

I hate to tell you this folks, but I think Bergman is playing Cliff again.

My fiance put it best when she said that this Jack is likable and sensitive
and loving in ways that are not at all like the Jack she remembers Terry as
being

examples:  Jack says "I wish, oh how I wish, you could love me as much
                      as I love you"

Terry Lester might have said [Southern Drawl on]

                     "Yeah, sweetheart, ya gotta know how much you mean to me.
                      We're hot together, you know hon!  Let's give this thing
                      a chance"

                             [Southern Drawl off]

another example.  Jack says "Do you know how jealous I am?  That you have
                             that wonderful little boy"

Terry Lester might have said [Southern Drawl on]

                      "Look, sugar, I want a kid.  I'm feelin' those paternal
                       urges, you know.  Listen, Doll, I wanna have a kid
                       just like you and the Black Knight"

                              [Southern Drawl off]

I think I've made the point:  the old Jack was appealing because of his slick
superficiality.  While he was known to show anger, the most appealing part
of the old Jack was the humour that always glistened behind those eyes.  Jack
was mocking the world and its conventions.

The new Jack is VERY rapidly being transformed into a noble man, with deep deep
feelings for family (remember how the old Jack threatened Ashley that he
would reveal that her natural father was Brent Davis if Ash didn't turn over
the vice-chairmanship to him!).  He is Cliff Warner.  Remember that Jack
and Nikki were ostensibly brought together because Jackie wanted revenge
on Victor.  The writers seem to have forgotten all about that--now they're
making like his love runs deep.

I don't mind the new Jack, but it's taken me a long while to realize that this
is a completely different man (not just actor, but character).

 

The more the evidence surfaces, It's safe to say Bill Bell stopped writing for Jack Abbott and just wrote for Peter Bergman, about 6 months to a year after Bergman joined. 

November 2023 Episode Rankings
A total of 20 Episodes aired this Month
thanks as always @jcar03! 

1.) Joshua Morrow (Nick Newman) : 14
2.) Eric Braeden (Victor Newman) : 13
*.) Sean Dominic (Nate Hastings) : 13
*.) Amelia Heinle (Victoria Newman) : 13
5.) Melody Thomas Scott (Nikki Newman) : 12
6.) Hayley Erin (Claire Grace) : 10
*.) Mark Grossman (Adam Newman) : 10
8.) Michael Mealor (Kyle Abbott) : 8
9.) Peter Bergman (Jack Abbott) : 6
*.) Sharon Case (Sharon Rosales) : 6
*.) Tricia Cast (Nina Webster) : 6
*.) Eileen Davidson (Ashley Abbott) : 6
*.) Michael Graziadei (Daniel Romalotti) : 6
*.) Bryton James (Devon Hamilton) : 6
*.) Christel Khalil (Lily Winters) : 6
*.) Allison Lanier (Summer Newman) : 6
*.) Melissa Ordway (Abby Newman Abbott - Chancellor) : 6
*.) Trevor St. John (Tucker McCall) : 6
*.) Zuleyka Silver (Audra Charles) : 6
*.) Susan Walters (Diane Jenkins) : 6
21.) Conner Floyd (Phillip "Chance" Chancellor IV) : 5
*.) Courtney Hope (Sally Spectra) : 5
*.) Jason Thompson (Billy Abbott) : 5
*.) Elizabeth Hendrickson (Chloe Fisher) : 5
*.) Colleen Zenk (Jordan) : 5
*.) Lauralee Bell (Christine Williams) : 4
*.) Michael Damian (Danny Romalotti) : 4
*.) J. Eddie Peck (Cole Howard) : 4
*.) Veronica Redd (Mamie Johnson) : 4
30.) Melissa Claire Egan (Chelsea Lawson) : 3
*.) Camryn Grimes (Mariah Copeland) : 3
*.) Michelle Stafford (Phyllis Summers) : 3
*.) Jess Walton (Jill Abbott) : 3
34.) Brytni Sarpy (Elena Dawson) : 2
*.) Vail Bloom (Heather Stevens) : 2
*.) Tracey Bregman (Lauren Fenmore Baldwin) : 2
*.) Cait Fairbanks (Tessa Porter) : 2
*.) Lily Brooks O' Bryant (Lucy Romalotti) : 2
39.) Christian LeBlanc (Michael Baldwin) : 1
*.) Kate Linder (Esther Valentine) : 1
*.)Judith Chapman (Gloria Fisher) : 1
*.) Mattilyn Rochester Kravitz (Dr. George) : 1
*.) Beth Maitland (Traci Abbott) : 1
*.) Greg Rikaart (Kevin Fisher) : 1




 

10 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

 I can barely make it through all these scenes without fast-forwarding. They are so cringe. Elizabeth Sung and Phillip Moon were talented actors and it sucks that they were stuck with such stilted dialogue. 

I wonder if the problem was, unlike Victoria Rowell who sort of guided Bill Bell with how to properly write for AA characters on the show, maybe both ES and PM didn’t step forward and offer their perspective to Bell with how to properly write for the Vietnamese culture….although I guess one could argue they weren’t both Vietnamese IRL, but still. 

3 minutes ago, kalbir said:

The Vietnam story was a rewrite since it went against established history. In 1983 when Dina arrived, it was said she left the family in 1971. The rewrite had Jack serving in Vietnam in 1971 so that made him an adult when Dina left.

It’s definitely a rewrite but to kind of fix that error, I would just have it that Jack quickly left for Vietnam in the months after Dina walking out on the family. Most people go into the army when they are 18 and just out of high school. 

44 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

I am currently watching 11/8/94 where Jack reveals to Keemo that he is Keemo's father, and Jack says "I honestly think you'll grow to like me" and I had to snicker as I never grew to like Peter Bergman's portrayal of Jack after 34 years 

Haha you are too funny!!
 

as terrible as I use to think it was of Bergman to pretend Keemo and Luan never existed, I definitely understand not to a degree why he felt that way. The dialogue and scenes are More cringey then they are heartwarming IMO.
 

On 10/5 or 10/6/94, the biggest cringe for me is Jack and Luan’s reunion and the way Jack says: “Hello Mai-yung” with the hint of a Vietnamese twang in his voice!  

November 2023 Rankings
A total of 20 Episodes aired this Month
Thanks as always @jcar03!

1.) Thorsten Kaye (Ridge Forrester) : 17
2.) Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke Logan Forrester) : 16
3.) Joshua Hoffman (R.J Forrester) : 15
*.) Jacqueline Maclnnes Wood (Steffy Forrester Finnegan) : 15
5.) Lisa Yamada (Luna Nozawa) : 12
6.) John McCook (Eric Forrester) : 11
7.) Jennifer Gareis (Donna Logan) : 10
8.) Tanner Novlan (Dr. John "Finn" Finnegan) : 9
*.) Heather Tom (Katie Logan) : 9 
10.) Matthew Atkinson (Thomas Forrester) : 7
*.) Annika Noelle (Hope Logan) : 7
12.) Romy Park (Poppy Nozawa) : 5
13.) Kimberlin Brown (Sheila Carter) : 4
*.) Scott Clifton (Liam Spencer) : 4
*.) Sean Kanan (Deacon Sharpe) : 4
16.) Krista Allen (Dr. Taylor Hayes) : 3
*.) Delon de Metz (Zende Forrester Dominguez) : 3
*.) Don Diamont (Bill Spencer) : 3
*.) Naomi Matsuda (Li Finnegan) : 3
20.) Lawrence St. Victor (Carter Walton) : 2
*.) Alexander & Chase Banks (Hayes) : 2
*.) Justin Davis (Dr. Colin Colby) : 2
*.) Sophia Paras (Kelly) : 2
24.) Henry J. Dinapoli (Bodie) : 1
*.) Hayeong Jang (Lilah) : 1
*.) Quinn Knox (Mr. Lords) : 1

Contract Actor(s) not appearing this Month:
1.) Diamond White (Paris Buckingham) 

25 minutes ago, fivethej said:

Do you know the air date when Brad vs Tim fight in Lauren's office happened? It was from 1989.

I don’t know that one either  

3 hours ago, kalbir said:

Y&R June 7, 1991 Nathan and Olivia get married.

Y&R is just so ahead of the pack.

Also Sheila and Scott married June 13, 1991  

51 minutes ago, fivethej said:

It was 1990. Someone had posted the scene on YouTube, but the channel was taken down.

Leanna also had dreams of hurting Victor and had melt downs.

Oh, haha I thought that was in 1988. Everything else you mentioned happen then 

2 hours ago, fivethej said:

Do you know the air date when Leanna Love & Victor had a one-night stand?

That not sure, haha 

9 minutes ago, fivethej said:

What's the air date for the very first time Hope & Nikki meet?

I think it’s 10/5/93 which we don’t have yet.