Jump to content

Y&R August 2021 Discussion Thread


Recommended Posts

  • Members

When Chance and Abby got married, Kevin and Chloe (with Esther) moved out of the Chancellor mansion. The three of them (Kevin/Chloe/Esther) plus the children have been living together in their own house or apartment ever since. I remember the scenes of them moving out.

Kevin and Chloe went back to the mansion for one final check to see if they had missed anything, and that's when they found something that Gloria had left behind when she had previously visited them at the C-mansion. Gloria had hidden a device which contained blackmail material about the Hollywood firm she'd been working at. I think there was info about the Newmans on it? I think Phyllis tried to get Kevin to tell her the secrets on it. I don't remember where that storyline went, and it doesn't matter for this topic of where Kevin and Chloe currently live.  My point was that finding that device was Kevin&Chloe's final scene at the C-mansion.

I don't think Y&R has ever shown the current residence of Kevin/Chloe/Esther/children? Or have they?

I remember the show made this big deal about them moving out of the C-mansion so that Chance and Abby could kind of be the king and queen of their new family/dynasty/whatever, as they were planning to have children.  And then Danny Boaz got himself fired.

In my opinion, the mansion just doesn't feel right without Esther living there.

And, in my opinion, Jill should be there, too.  But I understand that Jess Walton wants to be home in Oregon -- she posted on her instagram that her husband's cancer returned and the outlook is not good.

Mariah and Nina living at the mansion now .... to assist Abby in her awaiting the baby ... are to further that Y&R goal of the new Abby/Chance dynasty.

All of this is so *very* annoying to me.

Edited by janea4old
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 170
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Members

Having just checked out the 8/10 episode, I have to disagree with that. I felt like the episode only came alive once Chloe and Kevin showed up. Maybe they were just glad to be working again, but EH and KR played their scenes with a lot more energy than the rest of the cast, most of whom just seemed bored. But once I got past all the interminable conversations about Phyllis being upset Summer was staying in Italy, it wasn't such a bad episode. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I always think people are being short-sighted when they dismiss long-time characters as not needed because they haven't had story in a long time.

True, Kevin and Chloe have not had stories in forever - and Kevin in particular, despite GR being so good, has been written horrible most of his time on the show.
But they are longtime characters with lots of ties to other characters and history and played by good actors. Why would you want to get rid of them?
To have more characters like Tara or Stitch? No. Answer is writers who utilize the assets they have, not fire longtime members of the cast just because the current crew is clueless how to use them.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I recall that Kay left Esther some rights to the mansion. The recap for that day says she gets $20k a month for the upkeep, so presumably this implies that she has the right to stay there whenever she wants as long as she cares for it. So she not only walked away from the mansion, but from a salary of $120k/year.

 

Chance got 5% of her estate, nothing about the mansion, but I guess Jill is letting them live there (I don't think this was ever specifically spelled out on screen; it seems like people can just randomly decide they want to live in this studio-apartment sized "mansion.")

https://www.soapcentral.com/young-and-restless/recaps/2013/130909.php

Katherine's second bequest went to Esther, whom she left $20,000 a month for life, with the proviso that Esther would continue to care for the mansion. Esther had joyous tears as she agreed gladly.

Edited by BoldRestless
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Esther ran into Nina a while back and Nina asked her if she missed the mansion and wanted to return to take care of it a few days a month (or something to that effect). Esther was excited and I don't think we've seen her since.

 

The departure of Kevin was long overdue.  Had it not been for Josh Griffith needing the show the (s*itty) way it was when he left, Kevin would have stayed gone.  I don't mind Chloe being back.Chloe and Chelsea both on-screen seem redundant. As for Kevin and Chelsea though, no one was picketing or flying planes begging for either's return.  I like GR, but Kevin had run his course back when he exited. What police work does he do? Paul is off camera and Rey does exciting work like  accompany Chelsea to another state.  The GCPD exists in theory, but that's it at this point.

Edited by slick jones
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I'm behind and just watching the ep where Ash and Victoria arrive at his NY penthouse.

YIKES!

They need to clear half of the stuff on that set. I think they were going with the 'eclectic priceless art collectors' look but even if all that stuff was genuine it does not photograph well.

Sally/Jack does not work ,especially the writers ignoring the age difference.

Peter Bergman always has Jack looking at his phone when he enters CL/Society (which he does with monotonous regularity)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Sometimes this show feels like it’s written by aliens who have never interacted with human beings. (That comment is in regards to this Mariah abduction story.)

Glad to see Sally moved into Chloe and Adam’s orbit (even though the whole Chloe-working-with-Adam thing is… odd).

Edited by Faulkner
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

That comment could apply to a lot of the stories and scenes on the show right now. In the recent episode I watched, everyone seemed bizarrely unmoved and even bored by the news that Ashland has decided to get treatment for his terminal cancer. I know some of the characters on Y&R are marked by their WASPy reserve, but come on!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

LOL you nailed it! And at least Sally being moved into this orbit will probably be the most engaging thing she has done since Theo left.

That could be interesting and I could easily see that happening. I mean I don’t think we even know much about Sally’s mom to begin with. Phyllis is too obsessed with Sally. Now we are having Phyllis huff & puff “I need to warn Chloe about Sally!” Really? Since when have Phyllis & Chloe ever had interaction? It’s a very silly that Phyllis can’t get over her daughter being happy. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Phyllis' relentless vendetta towards Sally is overkill. Yes, it is in character but for it to be an A story?

Wish we could get a new writer/producer.

Anthony Morina is obviously just there to get the show on air - he doesn't seem to care about sets, lighting,costuming staging ,plotting, character motivations etc.

Adding Susan Dansby has made no difference - me thinks it was just a PC move.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • That’s one of the things I’ve liked since the new writers came in; more interactions between characters that they hadn’t really had scenes with 
    • Such a missed opportunity… 
    • Loved Valerie Mahaffey as crazy as a box of frogs Sandy Cooper on Wings. 2025 needs to chill out already. May Ms. Mahaffey rest in peace.
    • She was great on there. And Wings. And so many shows. I don't feel like we get those character actors as much now.
    • Cady did have a southern accent as Dixie in her first few years playing the character... but it started to minimize the longer she played the character (which tracks because my aunt had a heavy southern accent when married my uncle and years living in the north has softened it quite a bit). Her initial stint playing Rosanna was partly due to mirroring the previous actress and eventually developing her own take on the character. And the thing about her take as Kelly on Y & R was that she was too sedate when she first took over playing the role (she was supposed to play a woman that had recently lost her child.. and trying to keep things together) and then went OTT crazy and didn't play it well.    And I don't care to remember her attempt at playing Jennifer on Days. I think this Pamela character is the first time she's playing a character from the start and I think she's like a kid at a candy store.  She's having so much fun trying different things... and I hope eventually she decides to settle on a more consistent character for Pamela (perhaps her love of accents is a character trait based on something traumatic that happened to her in the past maybe).
    • That's sad. I remember her mostly from ER and the shortlived, yet very funny, sitcom The Powers That Be.
    • As always loved seeing Ric with Liz. I hope the show forever keeps them in each others orbit even if it’s just platonic. I’m sure she’s going to cut him out when she finds out he’s blackmailing Alexis though. So darn.
    • I have to be honest I’m really struggling with this show. I love everything with Eva/Leslie/Ted/Nicole/Kat and enjoy Dani and Bill’s shenanigans (I’m on the Hayley needs to be recast train now tho), Chelsea is second to Kat as my favorite Dupree grandkid and I loved her coming out to her mom. The show was on a truly great run with the big Leslie and Eva reveal at Nicole and Ted’s anniversary party and the fall out has still been good even with the unnecessary Ted recast and them making Leslie kind of dumb by exposing herself too much unnecessarily. The real problem for me started when they rotated back to way too damn much screen time for Derek/Ashley/Andre (if anyone should have been up first for a recast it was these three IMO). They tried way too hard to drum up drama between Ashley and Derek and the actors were clearly fighting for their mediocre charisma less acting lives to make it work but none of it landed, just horrible. Naomi and Jacob and this weird homeless woman story are also BORING. I can see where its potentially going but IDGAF at all, my only hope for them is that they’re building a triangle with Naomi/Jacob/Kat because Jacob and Kat have stronger chemistry together than their current love interests (Eva is the only one who can make the awful Tomas work). Martin, his secret and still cringe worthy acting got kind of interesting with Bill dropping hints to Smitty but they completely lost me with that lil fakeout scene at the country club. The lame “teenagers” (air quotes because Samantha is no Bianca Lawson and never beating the black Andrea Zuckerman allegations) can get off my screen as well. Joey creeping on Vanessa is grossing me out at this point, I actually quite like Vanessa and Doug now but Joey falls totally flat as a villain and someone we’re supposed to buy Vanessa being enamored with. I’m glad they’ve finally set up something interesting for Vernon and Anita to do with this girl band reunion instead of Anita wringing her hands and telling us she feels darkness coming and Vernon giving a civil rights speech every episode but yeah… People who’ve posted with me for other shows know I’m not one for fast forwarding or hate watching either, if I find a majority of a show is not working I usually just quit but because of what this show represents for me as a Black male soap fan I really want to stick it out. Its just become a challenge lately. I saw Guza has left the building and I REALLY hope we hear about some more BTS changes. The additions of Tracy Thompson and Jamie Giddens don’t exactly inspire a lot of confidence from me tho. Honestly praying hard for a new EP to replace JHC, a lot of the stuff that annoyed about her PC and AMC runs has started to match up here. I’m giving the show through the Summer to rectify some things but IDK how long I can hold on tbh. Its been a struggle to even finish some of these episodes lately.
    • I agree. I liked the episode but it felt jarring to suddenly return to a bunch of plots that had been put on pause since the Nurses' Ball started. Although I did like Laura popping in at the end to tell Alexis that millions of dollars have suddenly disappeared from Ace's trust fund. One set of scenes that made me feel optimistic for the next few months were between Sofia Mattsson and Rory Gibson. While Rory has been good as a darker, colder Michael this week, I was worried that he might not have much range. But he really warmed up with Mattsson, and I thought that (for the first time) Michael and Sasha had some genuine chemistry.
    • Next week is going to be such a sad time... I just feel it based on what was shown today. I'm wondering if the whole John being bandaged thing being a throwback to how he first arrived on the show was a Ron C idea since it just seems as though this would be something he would come up with.  If so, it's good that Cwikly/Ford are in charge with the implementing of the idea instead of him. Just a delayed thought from the Ciara scenes earlier in the week, or last week.. and how she had an odd way of dressing/acting.  I chuckle because little Ciara did say that she admired and wanted to be just like Kristen when she grew up.  So the fact that her outfit choices are so odd/off beat and her manner is a bit OTT just fits.. especially since Eileen's Kristen had an odd sense of fashion and that frantic OTT undertone to her delivery. With that said, a part of me wonders how Eileen's Kristen would have handled the scenes being done this week in regards to John's situation.   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy