I know drama followed Nathan Fillion to The Rookie with those allegations from Afton Williamson about on-set racism.

 

Another one: Gabrielle Union vs. Simon Cowell on America’s Got Talent

2 hours ago, Faulkner said:

I know drama followed Nathan Fillion to The Rookie with those allegations from Afton Williamson about on-set racism.

 

Another one: Gabrielle Union vs. Simon Cowell on America’s Got Talent

 
I remember that story from last year. I’m surprised Fillion even got that show on the air considering how tired and mediocre I found it to be. I resent how men like Fillion and Peter Krause keep popping up in show after show.

 

Simon Cowell is a well known pig.

On 6/16/2020 at 2:15 PM, soapfan770 said:

I’m glad they later made peace, especially in light of Strassman’s passing and Kaplan now being more famous as a skilled gambler than an actor. I know a lot of those late 70’s sitcoms had BTS drama but in Kotter’s case what a disaster for a show to rise high and then completely unravel that fast.

 

Apparently, it was this article

 

https://people.com/archive/a-set-becomes-a-set-to-as-mrs-kotter-takes-on-gabe-and-the-sweathogs-take-sides-vol-10-no-19/

 

that led Gabe to seek out Marcia for a talk. They did, cleared the air, and realized that Komack had been playing them against each other. Gabe happened to be guest-hosting the Tonight Show that week and invited Marcia to be on. She accepted, and the hatchet was buried. (I learned that in a TV interview with the two that has since been taken off YouTube.)

 

I believe the last time the two were in public together was at the 2011 TV Land Awards. Gabe even wrote a tribute to Marcia in Time Magazine after she passed in 2014.

 

https://time.com/3547835/gabe-kaplan-remembers-marcia-strassman/

See? I had read somewhere a few years that the reason for Nathan vs Stana was because at some point they had some...encounter/ONS/etc...and Stana kept it moving. And Nathan did not take it well. And of course everyone had to take sides. A mess.

 

Like most Whedon actors and actresses, I was not sure how I felt about that knowledge. I still have yet to binge watch the whole series (I even did CASTLE as a spec script when I was trying to break into writing for TV, I had wanted to work on it) and I always felt...especially since I had to study Season Three for my spec script that whatever happened happened in Season 4. But I would have to go into what was going on in their lives at that time to see. And like a lot of the BUFFY/ANGEL drama, I just did not want my view of the actors tainted by BTS. 

 

Just seeing some of that ROOKIE talk about saddens me about Nathan Fillon. Liked since he was Joey on OLTL. Loved him on FIREFLY and the other Whedon shows. And he always appeared to be fun without being full of himself. So I always will wonder what happened and be too scared to find out. 

On 6/15/2020 at 9:52 AM, soapfan770 said:

 

 

 

 

Kern was a cancer to the show in the long haul. The minute the show featured that crappy Phoebe mermaid arc I knew the show was sliding downwards. I quite well remember when I think it was TV Guide gave Kern the dubious distinction of "Worst Show Producer of 2004". The last three seasons of the show were a mess. Kerr Smith's character was promising but completely wasted. The final season the audience was tortured by Kaley Cuoco giving the worst performance of her life.  

And just think...he also got attacked during #metoo because he was as bad BTS there as it appears. Well...worse.

10 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

Apparently, it was this article

 

https://people.com/archive/a-set-becomes-a-set-to-as-mrs-kotter-takes-on-gabe-and-the-sweathogs-take-sides-vol-10-no-19/

 

that led Gabe to seek out Marcia for a talk. They did, cleared the air, and realized that Komack had been playing them against each other. Gabe happened to be guest-hosting the Tonight Show that week and invited Marcia to be on. She accepted, and the hatchet was buried. (I learned that in a TV interview with the two that has since been taken off YouTube.)

 

I believe the last time the two were in public together was at the 2011 TV Land Awards. Gabe even wrote a tribute to Marcia in Time Magazine after she passed in 2014.

 

https://time.com/3547835/gabe-kaplan-remembers-marcia-strassman/

That's such a sweet photo of the two of them, it definitely gives me vibes of a WBK sequel series where Kotter comes back to sub at Buchanan and has to deal with a whole new generation of Sweathogs. Stassman, Hegyes, and Palillo all died so young.

On 6/14/2020 at 5:03 PM, Faulkner said:

The recently ended Criminal Minds has revealed itself to be a cesspool of abuse and toxicity over the years.

 

I guess Thomas Gibson and Mandy Patinkin had bad blood going back to their Chicago Hope days. Even after Patinkin left CM, things apparently never got better with Gibson around.

2 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

I guess Thomas Gibson and Mandy Patinkin had bad blood going back to their Chicago Hope days. Even after Patinkin left CM, things apparently never got better with Gibson around.

It’s funny: Patinkin has been notoriously a nightmare throughout his screen and stage career. But it feels like Homeland has successfully rehabilitated his image.

 

The rot just feels like it ran deep on CM. That show is still under investigation for serious violations by the crew.

Even Grey's didn't seem to have as much drama BTS as CM...which is really saying something!! 😲

More 'Joss Whedon is problematic' news:

 

https://dlisted.com/2020/07/01/ray-fisher-called-out-joss-whedon-on-twitter-for-being-gross-and-unprofessional-on-the-set-of-justice-league/

Lord...

On 6/15/2020 at 4:04 AM, GLATWT88 said:

 

I watched an interview with Linda Gray and she said that Larry Hagman would purposely eat horrible things to make his breath bad for their kissing scenes on Dallas. 

 However, Linda Gray, Larry Hagman and Patrick Duffy were really close friends in real life so this was not BTS drama. A lot of times actors say they eat smelly foods for kissing/love scenes so that it is not sexy for them as actors I guess to stop there being any potential romantic sparks.

On 6/15/2020 at 3:52 AM, Chris B said:

 

I still want to know what exactly happened here. We know details about Nicollette’s issues with Marc Cherry, but I’ve never quite understood why they hate Teri Hatcher so much and who was in the wrong there. 

 

I like Teri but she seems to have had conflicts with most people she has worked with. She had problems with Pierce Brosnan and the director of JB, she did not get along with Dean Cain. I am also sure that I saw footage a few years ago on YouTube of Teri shooting a lot of her later DH scenes on her own and then they were spliced together with the other actors. I think for many scenes she was not shooting opposite many of the other female leads on DH.

On 6/15/2020 at 4:13 PM, Cat said:

 

 

 

 

They say SMG was a rather reserved person onset and that could be taken as standoffsihness. I am speculating, but a part of me feels she was harshly judged because she wasn't super touchy friendly and because she didn't overly kiss Joss Whedon's ass. Wheedon, for example, would host dinners at his family home where cast members he favored would get invited and perform scenes from Shakespeare or play improv games. I think Charisma Carpenter might have been the same -- she was friendly and on good terms with the Angel cast, but was never invited to the Wheedon family home for fun game night.

 

And I suspect that Joss finally got bored with writing for both Buffy and Cordelia. With Cordelia, he was very angry CC got pregnant and basically wrote her character out saying that it had run its course. With Buffy, he couldn't say that because the show was called BTVS! So he soldiered on, but it became clear in the last few seasons that he was not interested in exploring the layers of Buffy as a person. It was around that time that SMG looked like she wanted to move on too, because the show was no longer giving her interesting material.

Didn't Joss handover a lot of the show running in the later seasons of Buffy to Marti Noxon. I remember lots of fans being pissed off by her vision of the show. Hard to know what is the truth!

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by daysgoby

@daysgoby Wow! I had no idea Teri Hatcher filmed separately! I’m rewatching the series and I read when Nicollette Sheridan was fired the original plan was to kill Susan. Maybe that is why. I do think as I’m almost finished that losing Nicollette hurt the show tremendously. Her final episode showed how well her character could fit if fleshed out. Without her the show lost a sense of humor and it’s heart. I feel Eva Longoria carries the show once she left. 

 

Of course, we would be remiss not to mention the feud between Lana Turner and Jane Wyman on the set of FALCON CREST.  From what I have read over the years, their feud stretched all the way back to their days in the "studio system;" and apparently, things got so tense between them on FC that whenever the two actresses had to share scenes, they would film each actress' side separately, then splice them together in editing.

 

RE: Nicollette Sheridan -- I know I've read that the other, older actresses on KNOTS LANDING (Michele Lee, Joan Van Ark, Donna Mills, etc.) weren't all that friendly toward her, but I chalk that up more to the fact that she was younger and receiving a large amount of story and screen time rather quickly.

 

32 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

 

 

Not exactly apropos, but I'd love, love, LOVE to see someone (besides Ryan [!@#$%^&*] Murphy) do a movie or mini-series about the Lana Turner/Johnny Stompanato relationship and his death at the hands of her daughter, Cheryl Crane.

Edited December 4, 20204 yr by Khan

@daysgoby I just saw your message. Yeah, Joss gave Marti Noxon the day to day operations the last two seasons.

2 hours ago, Faulkner said:

 

I know very little of it so yes, I admit...I am VERY, VERY curious what the deal was with those two.