2 hours ago, ReddFoxx said:

Doug's "murder" during the Salem Stalker storyline was especially disturbing. I remember been creeped out by Marlena fighting with an elderly man and stabbing him then him writing a note in his blood. That was too much.

 

OMG, I totally forgot about that.  Yeah, it's one thing when you have to kill off a longtime character because the actor has passed away IRL.  But, even when the actor has died, watching their character die or be wounded onscreen in such grisly ways isn't the least bit entertaining to me.

4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

We usually agree about things but why? Kristen is a murderer who doesn't deserve to be happy with Brady much less be a mother. Victor is no saint either. What happened to good VS evil in soaps? There is no rooting value for either one. I have no reason to care for this story except that Sarah should keep Kristen's offspring. 

I think we’re in the minority, but I agree with you. Both Kristen and Victor are pretty awful people. Victor has done so many horrendous things I’ve lost count. I like John Aniston, but Victor should have been stabbed long ago.
 

Kristen is a psycho bitch who pretended to be sane for a couple months. I can’t root for her, either, and to be honest, I miss Eileen Davidson too much in the role to care what happens to Kristen.

 

i have to add that Stacy Haiduk makes me CRAZY with that thing she does with her voice, going low and getting guttural. She does it all the time, and I hate it. It’s not acting.

I have to admit I, too, am struggling with who to "root for," for lack of a better word.  Neither Kristen's nor Victor's actions in this storyline in particular are entirely defensible.

 

But, I'm still uncomfortable with the sight of an eighty-year-old man being gutted like a fish by a knife-wielding, revenge-seeking baby mama.  I mean, I know John Aniston isn't REALLY being stabbed.  Nevertheless, it isn't something that I would have done to a senior citizen on this (or any) show if I had been in Ron Carlivati's position.

I think my sister is perving on Ben.

 

Is that enough to disown her?

4 hours ago, te. said:

I think my sister is perving on Ben.

 

Is that enough to disown her?

Lmao it depends 

 

Is she comparing Ben to great men in your family and demonizing everybody who’s done something bad but still defending Ben? 

10 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

i have to add that Stacy Haiduk makes me CRAZY with that thing she does with her voice, going low and getting guttural. She does it all the time, and I hate it. It’s not acting.

 

She's fine until she has to display anger, or any drama, really. I find her almost fatiguing to watch.

13 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Carlivati has ruined you 😂😂😂

 

lol nope. I just don't spend my energy picking things apart as much as I used to.

10 hours ago, Khan said:

I have to admit I, too, am struggling with who to "root for," for lack of a better word.  Neither Kristen's nor Victor's actions in this storyline in particular are entirely defensible.

 

But, I'm still uncomfortable with the sight of an eighty-year-old man being gutted like a fish by a knife-wielding, revenge-seeking baby mama.  I mean, I know John Aniston isn't REALLY being stabbed.  Nevertheless, it isn't something that I would have done to a senior citizen on this (or any) show if I had been in Ron Carlivati's position.

 

I'm kind of surprised so many are having an issue with this. It's a soap 🤷‍♂️ for me neither has to be rootable. But I do respect your opinion on it. 

 

They've both done horrible [!@#$%^&*] and they're both 'paying' for it in different ways.

Don't get me wrong, Victor deserves some sort of payback for his role in the baby switch.  Given his (and Aniston's) advanced years, however, it's just particularly nasty (to me) to see him stabbed, or shot, or poisoned, or anything so violent.

2 hours ago, Khan said:

Don't get me wrong, Victor deserves some sort of payback for his role in the baby switch.  Given his (and Aniston's) advanced years, however, it's just particularly nasty (to me) to see him stabbed, or shot, or poisoned, or anything so violent.

 

I get it. I just wasn't thinking of it that way.

So per yesterday's ep., Stefan's gravestone says 1974-2019.  Surprised they're establishing him as being, give or take, 15ish years older than Abby/Chad/Gabi.  I know age is incredibly flexible on this show, though.  Lol

4 hours ago, DynamiteKiddo said:

So per yesterday's ep., Stefan's gravestone says 1974-2019.  Surprised they're establishing him as being, give or take, 15ish years older than Abby/Chad/Gabi.  I know age is incredibly flexible on this show, though.  Lol

 

Especially considering Barash was born in 1979. I get that age of an actor and character doesn't necessarily correlate, but it seems unnecessary to age the character into his mid-40s.

 

With that said, I'm sure they'll forget about his birth year about a week into him airing.

39 minutes ago, te. said:

 

Especially considering Barash was born in 1979. I get that age of an actor and character doesn't necessarily correlate, but it seems unnecessary to age the character into his mid-40s.

 

With that said, I'm sure they'll forget about his birth year about a week into him airing.

Honestly, after rewinding to confirm, I wondered if the props dept. may have really screwed up and it was supposed to be 1984 and no one caught it.  Lol.  Who knows with this show.

 

As a soap fan (esp. a "Days" fan), I totally accept how insane time works and constantly tweaking people's ages... but because RC "loves history so much," specific dates and decades are being mentioned in the dialogue frequently, esp. for the supercouples.  You can't do that and have time be so dynamic.  It's particularly evident with J&M's many children...  Just stay away from dates lol

1 hour ago, DynamiteKiddo said:

Honestly, after rewinding to confirm, I wondered if the props dept. may have really screwed up and it was supposed to be 1984 and no one caught it.  Lol.  Who knows with this show.

 

As a soap fan (esp. a "Days" fan), I totally accept how insane time works and constantly tweaking people's ages... but because RC "loves history so much," specific dates and decades are being mentioned in the dialogue frequently, esp. for the supercouples.  You can't do that and have time be so dynamic.  It's particularly evident with J&M's many children...  Just stay away from dates lol

 

Perhaps, but Tyler Christopher was born in 1972, so I think at least originally Stefan was supposed to be in his mid-to-late 40s, but after Gabi/Stefan took off I'm surprised they didn't change that. With that said, DAYS just needs to stay away from dates as you said. Ideally I would've had the DiMera's have a mausoleum, but the budget probably wouldn't allow them to build such a specific set for what'll end up being a few scenes.

 

Still, I have hard time thinking the DiMera's would have such simple grave markers.

4 hours ago, te. said:

 

Perhaps, but Tyler Christopher was born in 1972, so I think at least originally Stefan was supposed to be in his mid-to-late 40s, but after Gabi/Stefan took off I'm surprised they didn't change that. With that said, DAYS just needs to stay away from dates as you said. Ideally I would've had the DiMera's have a mausoleum, but the budget probably wouldn't allow them to build such a specific set for what'll end up being a few scenes.

 

Still, I have hard time thinking the DiMera's would have such simple grave markers.

They have that set, and it's pretty good by current standards.  I know this sounds really creepy, but I love a mausoleum set on soaps lol.  Anyway, it got heavy play a couple years ago--after Andre was laid to rest there (I wanted to type "buried" lol), they played ISA scenes with John and Billie there, and Will & Paul were tied up there or something.

 

But last year, I think Gabi mentioned not wanting him there.  I'm assuming it was the budget?  If the show weren't at "Rachel's" grave so much recently, I doubt Gabi would have even got this scene.

Brandon...