What are some of your unpopular soap opinions?

 

Some of mine (I’ll start with the soaps currently on air):

 

B&B:

I was never a huge fan of the Ridge/Taylor pairing.

 

I prefer Liam to Wyatt.

 

DAYS:

EJ was only viable and likable with Nicole.

 

Victor and Maggie haven’t been relevant or needed in decades.

 

Mike and Carrie were so much better than Austin and Carrie.

 

GH:

Elizabeth hasn’t been a likable character since Lucky died in the fire.

 

I never liked the Dante/Lulu pairing and thought he would have been so much better with Sam.

 

Sarah Brown is still the best Carly and her version was the only time I liked the character.

 

Y&R:

Lily and Cane need to break up, she would be better paired with Nick or Billy.

 

Phyllis was only ever somewhat likable during the first round of Jack/Phyllis.

 

Those are some of mine, let me know if you don’t think any of them are all that unpopular. These are what I think seem to be unpopular. What are some of yours?

I still like GH and I don't want it to get cancelled. 

 

Douglas Marland wasn't that great of a head-writer.  He was good, but not the savior and king of perfection people like to make him out to be.

 

GL and ATWT deserved to be cancelled and I'm glad they weren't revived.  They both were too far gone to be saved.

I don’t mind Joshua Morrow at all and think he’s just fine as Nicholas. The amount of hate he gets around here is baffling to me at times.

10 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

Douglas Marland wasn't that great of a head-writer.  He was good, but not the savior and king of perfection people like to make him out to be.

 

GL and ATWT deserved to be cancelled and I'm glad they weren't revived.  They both were too far gone to be saved.

 

I would not describe Marland as perfect; no soap writer is. But there is no doubt he saved GH in the late 1970s. The show SOARED very quickly under his pen, and continued to enjoy immense popularity long after he and the quality of the writing had disappeared. The residual effect of his turning the show around kept GH atop the ratings heap for years.

 

Under the circumstances at the time, it is good ATWT and TGL were not revived, because continuing the series with the same idiots in change would have been pointless. Those incompetent/clueless/indifferent morons had destroyed the shows. It would have taken a miracle-worker team of producers and writers (and a massive infusion of cash) to even begin to repair the damage done to TGL. With Nancy Curlee and Wendy Riche at its helm, with the production model being returned to normal, with Peapack relegated to history, with the quick elimination of all the endless and irrelevant "newbies", and with the reintroduction of familiar, beloved characters, TGL might have had a chance. Gloria Monty and Douglas Marland had revived GH from life support. But none of this was going to happen. There were no miracle workers for TGL, and no interest in fixing the show, so it was doomed, alas.

 

ATWT, on the other hand, still had a higher budget, still had some decent sets, and still had most of its structure still intact. Many beloved vets were still living in Oakdale. Of the two P&G soaps, I think it would have been the better candidate for revival. Again, massive behind-the-scenes changes would have been needed. I'd again select Riche and Curlee to helm the show. It would need a higher budget. Loathed and/or irrelevant characters would need to be axed. Goodbye Katie and Janet! But again, with no real interest or miracle workers in sight to save the show, ATWT was doomed too. 

 

But if Goutman and Pissy had been replaced years earlier...ahh, what might have been.

On OLTL, viewers almost unanimously gave thumbs down to Bruce Hall when he began played "Father Joey," but personally, I did not mind the view. Both Hall twins were adorable, so I enjoyed Hall's tenure on the show for the babe-appeal alone. I know, I know, I am a shallow 'ho.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I don’t mind Joshua Morrow at all and think he’s just fine as Nicholas. The amount of hate he gets around here is baffling to me at times.

+1

Y&R has had the worst written and performance of dialogue- and I’m a Y&R fan.  When an entire week used to go by with “My former wife Nikkkkehhhh mother of my Son Nicholassss and Daghtahhhh Victoria....but she wassss my Wife Nikkkkehhhhh!”  “Dommmmmm you she was my wiffffffe!”   The role of Victor Newman is now being played by the character of Sue Ellen from Dallas.  Their acting and accents will continue to get a lot worse.  

I found the Quartermaines on GH super annoying, especially during the Labines’ tenure, even though I thought the actors were uniformly good to great. 

 

Jacqueline MacInnes Wood is fantastic and would have been a major soap star in a different era.

 

I hate Cane, but Daniel Goddard is a decent actor, and the whispering doesn’t bug me.

 

Steve Burton was very good in his last few months on Y&R and deserved his Emmy.

 

Jonathan Jackson is the only Lucky, and everyone else was miscast.

 

Kirk Geiger was the only Kevin who ever registered with me.

 

In the years I’ve watched AMC, the show was only ever truly good during Broderick’s mid-‘90s run.

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I don’t mind Joshua Morrow at all and think he’s just fine as Nicholas. The amount of hate he gets around here is baffling to me at times.

34 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

+1

I've always loved Joshua as Nicholas. He plays him very much as Nikki's son and I think that's why he gets so much flack. He's not as hard-charging as Victoria or Victor; he's much more like Nikki and has the temperament of his most influential stepfather, Jack,

Edited May 31, 20187 yr by mikelyons

17 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

Douglas Marland wasn't that great of a head-writer.  He was good, but not the savior and king of perfection people like to make him out to be.

 

GL and ATWT deserved to be cancelled and I'm glad they weren't revived.  They both were too far gone to be saved.

Every ABC show has deserved to be cancelled before either one of them.  I'm glad we'll never see Susan Lucci again because she was a horrible actress, and Tony Geary couldn't carry Michael Zaslow's shoes.  Wendy Riche absolutely stunk as an EP.  Let's Brawl. 

 

Let's see what comes out of GH if they are forced to fire people over and over and film the show on a handheld camera. And edit on it.  Let's see what you've got when you have zero money - and the NY soaps had people who worked on Broadway far more than LA ever will. 

6 minutes ago, mikelyons said:

 

I've always loved Joshua as Nicholas. He plays him very much as Nikki's son and I think that's why he gets so much flack. He's not a hard-charging as Victoria or Victor; he's much more like Nikki and has the temperament of his most influential stepfather, Jack,

The people that gripe about Josh Morrow are the same people who never complained about Ron Moss on B&B.  An actor who never should have been employed. 

35 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

+1

+1.  I see far more worse people on Y&R that get no hate.  People are starting to love Abby (Melissa Ordway), and Hunter King is coming back apparently.  The actor who plays Devon is awful - he's always been a gigantic suck of life out of a scene.  There just isn't anything there.  In recent years - Peter Berman dials it in and it doesn't look or sound like he's even trying.  Just my opinion but the Morrow haters need to start to pay attention to alot of the actors and actresses on this show. 

27 minutes ago, Fevuh said:

The people that gripe about Josh Morrow are the same people who never complained about Ron Moss on B&B.  An actor who never should have been employed.

 

Don't over-generalize.  I've griped plenty about Ronn Moss, too.

21 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I don’t mind Joshua Morrow at all and think he’s just fine as Nicholas. The amount of hate he gets around here is baffling to me at times.

 

I've begun to suspect that has less to do with JMs acting ability and more to do with resentment over his slights ( real or imagined) to SC. 

5 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

I've begun to suspect that has less to do with JMs acting ability and more to do with resentment over his slights ( real or imagined) to SC. 

 

Nope.  Not with me, anyway.  I can't stand Sharon Case either.

13 hours ago, Faulkner said:

I found the Quartermaines on GH super annoying, especially during the Labines’ tenure, even though I thought the actors were uniformly good to great. 

 

The Quartermaines became a very bad self-parody. At least the Labines seemed to like the family - you could tell how much Guza loathed them. 

 

I loved Stuart Damon, wonderful actor, and Leslie Charleson was also an intelligent, underrated actress, but I could not hear any more "This is my house!" "I gave it to you!" again, ever. I would have broken my TV. 

15 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

On OLTL, viewers almost unanimously gave thumbs down to Bruce Hall when he began played "Father Joey," but personally, I did not mind the view. Both Hall twins were adorable, so I enjoyed Hall's tenure on the show for the babe-appeal alone. I know, I know, I am a shallow 'ho.

 

 

I liked him too. I thought he had the sweetness and decency that Joey needed, and that had slowly been taken from him since Nathan Fillion mentally checked out. He was probably my favorite Joey after Chris McKenna. 

I liked BMH's Father Joey a lot. Malone was clearly trying to pattern him after Andrew Carpenter and it made a lot of sense for the character. But the minute they put him with Jen/Jessica Morris (who Malone very foolishly tried to make into a new iteration of Marty Saybrooke, right down to dialogue from Nora and Andrew saying "you remind me so much of Marty Saybrooke") it was over.

Edited June 1, 20187 yr by Vee