50 minutes ago, StepBack said:

Take your own advice please.

 

Sure, when you let people post what they want. This isn't your timeline. Get over it.

16 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

Sure, when you let people post what they want. This isn't your timeline. Get over it.

 

Yeah, you’re bored and looking for drama. Look elsewhere.

 

y'all are free to post whatever you want. And you don’t need my permission to do so.

3 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

You've never been in a film criticism workshop have you?    I didn't realize there were rules for critiquing the show on this board.  I guess I'll remain silent on all of it. 

Wow, getting one's work critiqued is a part of the writing process. I'm glad I'm not as sensitive as some folks are.  But hey, I'll definitely censor myself and likely post a lot less from now on.  There's just no interest in passively watching, at least not for me.

 

Why would you let what one person thinks stop you from doing your thing?  No one else is bothered. 

10 minutes ago, StepBack said:

y'all are free to post whatever you want. And you don’t need my permission to do so.

 

We know, and now so do you! Bye.

4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

 

Thanks. I'll probably be in the other threads.

I started a private blog about two weeks ago and only one other member on this board has read its contents but I may open it up.  And a DM is certainly not out of the question. 

 

Great story too! Thanks for indulging me. 

3 hours ago, StepBack said:

 

Speak your mind. I don't understand the notion of me telling you to leave as it would be highly silly, nor do I think you should. I don't post here often enough for you to base your decision on my posts either way.

 

It sounds like you view this show as a film workshop, where you have to look for faults and be critical. That is fine if it is your viewing pleasure. As someone looking at the final product, I'm not as highly critical nor negative, because I think there's a fine line and I also think we have enough of both in today's world.  

 

When one is a writer (professional or amatuer), one has a tendency to view story from a writer's lens. You dissect the script, actor's interpretation, character construct and motivations, director's lens/point of view, scene set up, music score,  and on and on. At least for me, it's very difficult to watch any scripted show without doing this. 

 

I think it's being misconstrued as being negative or complaining when it's really just natural conversation. Lol

Edited February 14, 20188 yr by ajsp35801

22 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Great story too! Thanks for indulging me. 

 

When one is a writer (professional or amatuer), one has a tendency to view story from a writer's lens. You dissect the script, actor's interpretation, character construct and motivations, director's lens/point of view, scene set up, music score,  and on and on. At least for me, it's very difficult to watch any scripted show without doing this. 

 

I think it's being misconstrued as being negative or complaining when it's really just natural conversation. Lol

 

Thanks! I can appreciate that and will reign in myself too, now that I understand your viewpoint lol 

23 minutes ago, StepBack said:

 

Thanks! I can appreciate that and will reign in myself too, now that I understand your viewpoint lol 

 

Cool 

 

FWIW, my sister hates watching TV with me. About 10 minutes in she's saying "will you just shut up and watch the show". Lol

Edited February 14, 20188 yr by ajsp35801

 

But to today's show:

 

"Tea. Hot chocolate." Sharon is stiring the pot. I like it as long as she doesn't devolve into crazy. 

 

Jack's new chemist is another rival for Ashley. I swear Jack and Ashley are written using the same techniques as a romantic pairing. Lol

 

"Isn't it great working together again?" Delivery and look perfectly done by Bryton. He's been invoking far more life and energy into Devon lately.  Good for him. 

 

 

Edited February 14, 20188 yr by ajsp35801

You know Hevon will reunite eventually.

 

Sharon better not go crazy again.

Y&R's current business stories would be a lot more fun if Jess Walton were around.

4 hours ago, StepBack said:

 

Yeah, you’re bored and looking for drama. Look elsewhere.

 

y'all are free to post whatever you want. And you don’t need my permission to do so.

 

Have to agree with you. Your post was pointed and critical, but so what? You have a right to your opinion, period. You never told anyone else to stop posting.

8 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

You've never been in a film criticism workshop have you?    I didn't realize there were rules for critiquing the show on this board.  I guess I'll remain silent on all of it. 

Wow, getting one's work critiqued is a part of the writing process. I'm glad I'm not as sensitive as some folks are.  But hey, I'll definitely censor myself and likely post a lot less from now on.  There's just no interest in passively watching, at least not for me.

 

Dreamer, a lot of posters here have praised your insights and encouraged you to stay. I hope you do, too.

 

However, your comments above are a bit contradictory. In one sentence you say you’re glad you’re not as sensitive as others, but in the next sentence you’re hyper-defensive and very sensitive. 

 

No one asked you or even suggested you should stop posting. Your opinions are strong, and as someone whose tone can be harsh, I understand why you’d occasionally get some blowback. 

 

Just do you, and realize everyone won’t agree.

8 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Y&R's current business stories would be a lot more fun if Jess Walton were around.

 

So true, especially if she wasn’t used as someone blowing in and out of town in 3 days.

9 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

But to today's show:

 

"Tea. Hot chocolate." Sharon is stiring the pot. I like it as long as she doesn't devolve into crazy. 

 

Jack's new chemist is another rival for Ashley. I swear Jack and Ashley are written using the same techniques as a romantic pairing. Lol

 

"Isn't it great working together again?" Delivery and look perfectly done by Bryton. He's been invoking far more life and energy into Devon lately.  Good for him. 

 

 

 

This, my friend, is spot on.  I was thinking similarly during the show yesterday.  SC's and Bryton's line delivery in both of these scenes was .  I don't mind Sharon stirring the pot either, and the story is more interesting because of it.  If there's any proof that an Antagonistic Sharon > Crazy Sharon, this story proves it. 

 

After showing some heart a few days ago, Hilary was back to being written as completely unlikable today.  WTF is going on in the writer's room IRT this character?  Mishael can sell however they decide to write Hils, but this back and forth, inside upside down character change from day to day is just...ugh.

 

I wonder if Mal has sat down and taken a look at these characters and has an understanding of their through-line.  Or in the absence of one (Noah, Abby, even Devon), is working to develop one.  Going back to my last paragraph, Hils suffers because of lack of consistency.  Granted, her revenge plot against Neil when she first came to town had to fall away and another was never really established.  Clearly, this isn't Mal's doing but he should hopefully work to repair some of that.

 

I do find myself enjoying the show, but there is tons of room for improvement. 

 

6 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

Y&R's current business stories would be a lot more fun if Jess Walton were around.

 

+1 IKR?  

7 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

Y&R's current business stories would be a lot more fun if Jess Walton were around.

 

Not for me.  I'm actually enjoying the business SLs.  Ash is being extra messy and I hope it bites her in the ass, but its nonetheless entertaining as hell.  I am especially enjoying the role Devon is playing in these SLs.  I hope this continues. 

11 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Great story too! Thanks for indulging me. 

 

When one is a writer (professional or amatuer), one has a tendency to view story from a writer's lens. You dissect the script, actor's interpretation, character construct and motivations, director's lens/point of view, scene set up, music score,  and on and on. At least for me, it's very difficult to watch any scripted show without doing this. 

 

I think it's being misconstrued as being negative or complaining when it's really just natural conversation. Lol

 

I'm late to the conversation like usual lol but THIS. SO MUCH THIS!

 

I tend to do the same thing. I often feel like I view things through a different lens. It's not always so much complaining or being negative.

 

And to the Josh Morrow never-ending debate (this part isn't really geared towards you ajsp, lol) because @Soapsuds can't stop bringing him up even though he claims to hate him I don't think he's very good, I actually think he's lousy in scenes with Braeden and I think he's been phoning it in for a very long time. His fratbro persona is kind of annoying, it's time to grow up. I'd hang out with him and have a beer and I think he's attractive (shush ron!) but he's really not that great of an actor for someone who's been in the genre for over 20 years. But if someone likes him, more power to them, but it's OK that we don't like him. I truly do think he's a lazy actor. I'm not going to say "bad" because I think he can be better than he is if he actually tries. He likely needs to be without the role for a time being to appreciate it more and to learn how to mentally show back up for work again. JMO. A long break would do wonders.

Edited February 14, 20188 yr by KMan101

1 hour ago, GMac said:

 

This, my friend, is spot on.  I was thinking similarly during the show yesterday.  SC's and Bryton's line delivery in both of these scenes was .  I don't mind Sharon stirring the pot either, and the story is more interesting because of it.  If there's any proof that an Antagonistic Sharon > Crazy Sharon, this story proves it. 

 

After showing some heart a few days ago, Hilary was back to being written as completely unlikable today.  WTF is going on in the writer's room IRT this character?  Mishael can sell however they decide to write Hils, but this back and forth, inside upside down character change from day to day is just...ugh.

 

I wonder if Mal has sat down and taken a look at these characters and has an understanding of their through-line.  Or in the absence of one (Noah, Abby, even Devon), is working to develop one.  Going back to my last paragraph, Hils suffers because of lack of consistency.  Granted, her revenge plot against Neil when she first came to town had to fall away and another was never really established.  Clearly, this isn't Mal's doing but he should hopefully work to repair some of that.

 

I do find myself enjoying the show, but there is tons of room for improvement. 

 

 

+1 IKR?  

 

The show is not boring. That seems a win in and of itself. I enjoy it too. 

 

I resisted the urge to go on a rant about the writing for Hilary. It's as if they tell the same daily arc with her when they want her on but have nothing for her to do  The show starts with her mean and vile for no reason then culminate with her opening up. They do this every other episode. It's a waste of airtime. 

 

This latest, I can't quite figure out the point. Was it to show Devon as "the boss" and not letting her run over him? Was it to finally have her lose some of that show to Mariah because the audience have been screaming for it? Devon didn't even explain why he wanted Mariah to do the segment. Was he doing this just to hurt Hilary? Or do they just think her treating Mariah like this is amusing? Are we supposed to laugh at this? Or was it just setting the stage so we can cheer when Devon announces he's taking something from her that she worked for handing it to someone else who hadn't earned it? 

 

So many questions and so few answers. 

 

I've started to take note of whose names appear on the script when Hilary is written this way versus whose name are listed when she's written decently.