21 minutes ago, MichaelGL said:

I actually found Maggie well used in Friday's episode. Her showdown with Eve was the first time I saw her as Maggie Kiriakis and not Maggie Horton. Loved the end between her and Lucas. 

 

Totally agree. I really enjoyed Maggie vs. Eve. And her scene with Lucas was great. Honoured their longstanding relationship and her longstanding sobriety. 

When was the last time Mags fell off the wagon?

On 10/12/2017 at 3:15 AM, Edward Skylover said:

 

What on earth do you like about Maggie? I like Doug and Julie. Does anyone else find it remarkable that man is in his 90s? He's better looking than me fgs and I'm in my 20s.

 

I've known and adored Maggie since 1974, and no amount of cringe-worthy writing will change that. With soaps being so poorly scripted for decades, I have learned to develop selective amnesia, and simply forget about all the harmful and stupid storyline decisions inflicted upon my favorite characters by TPTB. I hate the incompetent hacks running the soaps, but nothing they do will affect the "real" Maggie (or Julie or Doug).

On 08/12/2017 at 5:33 PM, Faulkner said:

Yeah, it's not a show I run home to watch by any means, but it's passable soap in spite of the budget. With Y&R going back to foolishness, B&B just about unwatchable, and GH so hollow and easy to ignore, that's the high bar we have now. 

 

 

In decades past, I ALWAYS made a point of racing home to catch my favorite soaps; they were that good. These days, however, you are right: being "not atrocious, but passable" is the best we can hope for.

51 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

 

I've known and adored Maggie since 1974, and no amount of cringe-worthy writing will change that. With soaps being so poorly scripted for decades, I have learned to develop selective amnesia, and simply forget about all the harmful and stupid storyline decisions inflicted upon my favorite characters by TPTB.

 

Ditto. When I see Maggie, I see the woman I first "met" 40 years ago -- beautiful, honest and heartbreakingly vulnerable. That character has been done much disservice by writers over the years, but Suzanne Rogers is still here, still giving it her all, and I am always glad to see her. Same with Doug and Julie. It's difficult for newer viewers to understand how spectacular these characters were in their heyday and why longtime fans have such affection and goodwill for them -- but trust me, our devotion is justified. I realize that does nothing for people who only know the Maggie of today, however. 

1 hour ago, teplin said:

 

Ditto. When I see Maggie, I see the woman I first "met" 40 years ago -- beautiful, honest and heartbreakingly vulnerable. That character has been done much disservice by writers over the years, but Suzanne Rogers is still here, still giving it her all, and I am always glad to see her. Same with Doug and Julie. It's difficult for newer viewers to understand how spectacular these characters were in their heyday and why longtime fans have such affection and goodwill for them -- but trust me, our devotion is justified. I realize that does nothing for people who only know the Maggie of today, however. 

 

Right. In the 1980s, there were comments from newer GENERAL HOSPITAL viewers who couldn't understand why veteran audience members wanted to see more of characters like Jessie Brewer. The newbies preferred to see the teenybopper idols of the day, and decried the idea of having "old people" crammed down their throats. They announced that characters like Jessie were totally irrelevant and if she disappeared, "nobody would miss her because she doesn't mean anything." 

 

HA!

 

Having never seen Jessie Brewer or Maggie Horton or Ellen Stewart or Meta Bauer in their heyday, their appeal may be a mystery to new audience members, but longtime viewers witnessed these characters' contributions to the soaps first-hand, and know how valuable they once were to their shows, and could be again, with decent, perceptive writing.

 

I will make a point of tuning into GH when Denise Alexander makes an appearance this Christmas. But the return of Steve Burton? ((Yawn))

Edited December 11, 20178 yr by vetsoapfan

I can ignore certain things but I honestly can't stand Maggie. I adore Suzanne Rogers but Maggie Kiriakis will never work for me. I miss Maggie Horton. Maggie's become an annoying shrew a lot of the times. We got five seconds with Lucas and no followup. We also didn't see anything with Kate and Lucas. So many things don't get followed up on like they once did.

 

I was devastated when Maggie was killed in 2004. Now I wouldn't miss the character at all (but I'd rather have her get better writing and Suzanne play her differently). Egg-Babies nearly killed this character. And I honestly didn't mind Victor and Maggie initially. I was all for it. But there's no drama. She looks the other way and remains his dutiful wife. I just don't see someone like Maggie, vibrant and full of life, with someone so miserable and nasty like Victor. As much as I love grumpy Victor and his one-liners, but he's become so toxic to me. I want better for both of them.

 

I know some newer viewers didn't take to Julie because of how she was written as a nagging harpy shrew against "poor wittle Gabi" but I will forever be on team Julie.

 

It's understandable new viewers don't care (not all, some) about the vets because they don't do their homework, and the writing is often terrible. When vets are brought back after 15 years, the audience isn't told who they are (truly told who they are, IMO) and to them they're strangers who are suddenly being written for. Why should new viewers care about Steve and Kayla? Why should they care when Austin and Carrie pop in? I'm different in that I've watched the show for 20+ years at this point and I watch old episodes, clips, I read up on history, I post on these boards. I'm well-versed.

 

Sorry for the ramble. It's early and I need more coffee. Hope I made sense. I'm also kind of rushing myself lol so I'm probably not making a ton of sense.

The actress who plays Maggie isn't very good. She might have been back in the day but she's not anymore. It's not an age thing, as I adore Marlena.

Talk about apples and oranges.

This is me being good for Christmas, and biting my tongue, LOL.

Sami and Eric scenes we're gold. I don't, and probably never will, buy them as siblings but the dialogue overshadowed their lack of sibling chemistry. Superb scenes!  

 

 

34 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

This is me being good for Christmas, and biting my tongue, LOL.

 

I'm unbiased as I don't have the same investment.

52 minutes ago, Edward Skylover said:

 

I'm unbiased as I don't have the same investment.

 

Yes, when you lament that Maggie "is doing your head in" and praise other characters and actors to the sky, it is VERY OBVIOUS that you have NO investment in the show at all.

 

Not one iota.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, vetsoapfan said:

Yes, when you lament that Maggie "is doing your head in" and praise other characters and actors to the sky, it is VERY OBVIOUS that you have NO investment in the show at all.

 

Watching for 2 months is a bit different to 20+ years.

5 minutes ago, Edward Skylover said:

 

Watching for 2 months is a bit different to 20+ years.

 

I know, I know. I was just joshin' ya.

Reflecting back on my history with DAYS, it boggles my mind that I saw my first episode of the show 52 (!!!) years ago.

 

Now I feel ancient, but at least I can comfort my aged and decrepit self with the knowledge that I was lucky enough to see the show's very best years.

 

 

I hate that JJ is being put through sheer hell. I have a feeling once Theo recovers all this will be quickly forgotten.  I'm glad Days can still afford Christmas decorations. I liked Kayla getting tough with Kate. It's strange having characters having conversions in their bedrooms. I'm glad Sami is leaving. We don't have to endure Sami/Rafe/Hope nonsense.