13 hours ago, Vanguardian said:

Do you actually mean Matt Miller (Victor's brother whom I think is still alive), or Matt Clarke (Nick's nemesis who raped Sharon and IS dead)? If it's the latter, then I would've loved the idea of his vengeful psychotic daughter showing up, moving in with Nikki and Victor, and systematically dismantling the entire Newman family as revenge for her daddy's death. It's the kind of crazy that I wish Y&R would try again. This so-called character-driven stuff bores me.

No I meant Matt Miller.

He needs to be killed off and his child become a defacto daughter to V&N.She can still have issues with the Newmans and go back and forth with her feelings.

 

I envision that Matt and his daughter were very close as they criss crossed the world (wherever his work took him) Her mother died when she was young (or so she believes) In some ways, she is very worldy,but in other ways quite innocent.

She got involved with an older guy that Matt despised and the last time he was alive they argued over this,

Victor and Nikki insist she come to GC and she agrees.The boyfriend follows and he sees $$ signs.They agree to keep their relationship under wraps until he can be introduced as a new boyfriend. In the meantime,he meets Mariah and they connect. Nikki plays matchmaker and introduces her to a suitable young man (Paul's nephew? ) A quadrangle emerges.

Matt's daughter and the boyfriend could be new Latino characters.

As long as the writing remains terrible all legacy characters should remain off canvas.

14 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

As long as the writing remains terrible all legacy characters should remain off canvas.

Well, I guess it's just as well since the show is overrun with none legacy newbies that viewers don't care about. Having them in story with vets is not helping either. 

Edited May 17, 20178 yr by ajsp35801

7 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

No I meant Matt Miller.

He needs to be killed off and his child become a defacto daughter to V&N.She can still have issues with the Newmans and go back and forth with her feelings.

 

I envision that Matt and his daughter were very close as they criss crossed the world (wherever his work took him) Her mother died when she was young (or so she believes) In some ways, she is very worldy,but in other ways quite innocent.

She got involved with an older guy that Matt despised and the last time he was alive they argued over this,

Victor and Nikki insist she come to GC and she agrees.The boyfriend follows and he sees $$ signs.They agree to keep their relationship under wraps until he can be introduced as a new boyfriend. In the meantime,he meets Mariah and they connect. Nikki plays matchmaker and introduces her to a suitable young man (Paul's nephew? ) A quadrangle emerges.

Matt's daughter and the boyfriend could be new Latino characters.

In mine he has three daughters and one or two sons but they are British 

Ugh.  Acting is not Julie Chen's bag...and it rubbed off on Mishael Morgan - the scenes were really fakey. 

I actually liked the Julie Chen interview scenes with Hilary, thought they were pretty well done.

20 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

I haven't watched yet but I am assuming she is dying thus selling her company? If that's the case SS might as well have kept her in Paris living it up with her hot man.

 

Yeah that not-too-subtle pause when Ashley mentioned John's death gave away what was obvious. It's too bad.

 

I'd love for MA to be the matriarch of the Abbott family since Aunt Jack has failed to replace John's role as head of the family. No regime has been able to accomplish that and it should've happened years ago. I guess Auntie's tantrums are easier to write for PB. 

 

And SSM making Ash a bitter woman is a seriously bad call, which is why Tracy is needed ASAP. 

5 minutes ago, edgeofnik said:

 

Yeah that not-too-subtle pause when Ashley mentioned John's death gave away what was obvious. It's too bad.

 

I'd love for MA to be the matriarch of the Abbott family since Aunt Jack has failed to replace John's role as head of the family. No regime has been able to accomplish that and it should've happened years ago. I guess Auntie's tantrums are easier to write for PB. 

 

And SSM making Ash a bitter woman is a seriously bad call, which is why Tracy is needed ASAP. 

Lord after KA said killing off John was a big mistake and told LML NOT to do it and they are supposedly killing off Dina??

And I agree MA should be living at the Abbott Mansion and Jill returns and has a cow. Instead they are getting rid of her?

60 year old Ashley and her mommy issues...

 

I wish they had kept their hands off Marla Adams.

Y&R barely introduced Neil's mom before killing her off.  Not to mention the regrettable decisions they've made to kill off  other characters in the past, like John and Colleen.  They need to think twice before offing Dina.

 

Traci is definitely needed to add some contrast here. Jill is also needed, I think, especially if they're going to keep mentioning Katherine. Surely there is material to be mined there. 

 

Throughout their long history, soaps have always had a matriarchal figure.  Sadly Y&R could do nothing to stop JC's passing but the role of a grande dame about town is missing and neither Jill nor Nikki can fill that role. B&B killed off Stephanie Forrester and has been lacking a strong matriarch ever since, especially since they obviously didn't want Mrs. Avant to fill that role.

What is CBS trying to say here?

 

 

Edited May 17, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer

36 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Not to mention the regrettable decisions they've made to kill off  other characters in the past, like John and Colleen.

 

LIZ.

24 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

LIZ.

 

That was also egregious but it started even before Liz was on her deathbed. Jill should've remained a Foster from a working class family who ascended into the upper echelons of society.  That never should've changed.  It stands out as one of the most stark examples of how Y&R has erased the middle and working class from the show.  Even the memory of it had to be erased.

SMH.

Gloria is your town matriach. 

4 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

Gloria is your town matriach. 

 

I left her name out of it because I didn't want to be mean but nah, Gloria ain't gonna cut it.