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3 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Probably because they aren't interested in the reboot.

I guess. I can just imagine Sara Gilbert thinking to herself, “Damn, this is how you guys are running things over here?”

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Todd VanDerWerff weighs in.

 

Jackie (played, as always, by the magnificent Laurie Metcalf, who won three Emmys for her work on the original series) voted for Hillary Clinton, while Roseanne (played by Roseanne Barr, but you knew that already) voted for Donald Trump. The rift has consumed both women, but because this is a TV show and because we want to see Roseanne and Jackie together again, it’s taken place offscreen. In the premiere, the two talk again for the first time, reaching a fragile peace.

 

Plenty of other things have changed in the time the series spent away too. Roseanne’s middle-child daughter, Darlene (Sara Gilbert), now has two kids of her own, a surly teenage daughter and a young son who prefers to wear girls’ clothing but also identifies as a boy, while Roseanne’s son, DJ (Michael Fishman), has a daughter of his own. The Conners are older and crankier, and their problems have shifted with the times.

 

At times, it seems as if this nine-episode revival (of which I’ve seen three episodes) has shifted its point-of-view character to Darlene, forced not just to raise her own kids but also to care increasingly for her parents (including John Goodman, back as Dan Conner, who ostensibly died in the original series finale, but let’s just pretend that didn’t happen). The Conners are all still living by the seats of their pants, in a world where the gap between the haves and the haves-not grows wider by the second. The family is hanging on, somehow, but every problem that pops up causes four or five others.

 

The idea that Roseanne, at least, would become one of the white working-class voters who skewed toward Trump makes some sense, even when you consider the character’s largely progressive politics on the original show. But the fact that she’s played by one of Hollywood’s few vocal Trump supporters has raised eyebrows and hackles, for fear that the new Roseanne might amount to a weekly lecture from Barr on how Trump is great, actually.

 

Fear not, though, America. The new Roseanne isn’t that at all. And what it is is worth wrestling with.

 

 

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He comes off as a very sweet, introverted man in every interview I've seen over the years. He went through a lot.

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The show does feel extra laugh-tracky, like a show within a show.

 

EDIT: That was actually better than I thought it would be. Everyone settled back into the rhythms of the old show so quickly. And the political stuff was handled relatively organically.

 

Those first two episodes were great. They really captured what was fantastic about the show at its peak. And Sara Gilbert was the MVP.

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I loved it. Really enjoyed it. So many hilarious moments and it really captured the old feel of the show. It was just natural. It made sense. The Jackie/Roseanne political fight was funny and not overly pushy. Their makeup was classic Jackie/Roseanne makeup.

 

Jackie's "JOURNEYS" was hilarious. Laurie was fabulous and isn't playing a cartoon, so that's a relief. Sara was great.

 

The characters all felt in character to me. Kind of strange to see it in HD but I loved it.

 

Oh and even though the name wasn't mentioned I liked they used Miss Crane as Mark's teacher, I liked the nods to Jackie's time on the force, I like that they had DJ marry the black girl he wouldn't kiss (Gina).

 

I'm hopeful we get more seasons.

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I enjoyed tonight's two episode premiere. It was very warm and familiar. The acting from the cast was very natural. I thought that the episodes had a nice mixture of comedy and some drama.

 

I don't care for Becky's storyline but I am enjoying most of the storylines so far. I am looking forward to learning more about DJ and his family.

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12 hours ago, Faulkner said:

What a weird, awkward interview with Roseanne, John, and Sara on The View. Lots of dead silences and missed cues from Whoopi and team. Just very unprofessional. 

WTF?? I just saw the interview on The View and it was all over the place. It was horrible and Sara kept giving this look like WTF is going on here. You all can't do an interview.....LOL

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I wonder if Sara being there from the competetion threw off the women of the View.

 

With that said, Sara was the MVP!  Who knew Darlene would be the responsible daughter LOL


Jackie was toned down, but she's the perfect example of family enmeshment and how unhealthy it is.  She was typically blaming Roseanne for her voting for Jill Stein instead of taking personal responsiblity.. yet she's a life coach?  I had looked into being a life coach years ago and one of the requirements was going to an actual life coach yourself and rebuilding your own life before you could get licensed as a life coach.

 

Roseanne and John were both a little shaky in the first episode, but by the 2nd episode both had settled in nicely with the rhythm of a sitcom and their characters again.

 

From what I'm gathering, she is aiming to show how politics have divided a family and how that family comes together once again.. and it is showing that not all Trump supporters are evil.. and not all Hillary/Jill Stein supporters are saints either.  

 

I am curious to find out more about what's been going on with Becky, as well as wondering what Roseanne is doing with her time since Dan is still drywalling... is Roseanne retired?

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From an acting standpoint, Sara Gilbert and Laurie Metcalf (though it was never a doubt with her) killed it. I was afraid they'd have to completely mellow-out Darlene now that she's a mother of two, but it's nice that she still had some of her trademark humor and her current incarnation seems like a natural progression. 

 

Becky is still the same selfish bitch she always was. I wonder why they didn't really touch upon Mark's death, but I guess they'll delve into that in later episodes. 

 

He wasn't bad, but it's probably wise they give Michael Fishman as few lines as possible. :lol:

 

 

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I loved it!

 

I still hate this Becky. I never liked her in the original series and I didn't like her today. Sarah C.(2nd Becky) was much better and more tolerable. I noticed she didn't get a main opening credit but a special guest star only.  I always preferred Darlene over Becky. The new additions(Darlen's family) are great. As for DJ....Michael Fishman....lawd he was so stiff in episode 1. He didn't have much to do or many lines though.

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And Fishman wasn't even in the second episode. LOL

 

He was alright.

 

I always preferred first Becky over Sarah. Sarah was AWFUL at first. LOL. She was NOT Becky. Lecy's Becky was always selfish. She jumped into things without thinking and was ridiculously stubborn. That hasn't changed. Sarah's Becky was a pathetic weak bimbo who stood there and took Darlene's crap and had no goals for her life. Sarah did great as Andrea though. I liked how 'proper' she was. "Jaqueline" lmao ....

 

I thought they handled the maturity well with Darlene but still giving her the savage lines she used to dish out. Darlene being the responsible one shouldn't be a surprise, she was always the 'smartest' so to speak. I was worried most about her (Sara) but Darlene was still in there, so I was happy. I LOL'd at the gay daughter jokes.

 

And that View interview was hella awkward, lol. It doesn't help Whoopi can't seem to see the teleprompter and most of the time doesn't care about it or laughs at the stupid questions she has to ask. I think she'd rather just talk to the guests than read a teleprompter. But it all came off as unprofessional. Usually I like the off-the-cuff awkward stuff but it came off bad. I bet nerves played a part (it was just a lot of nervous awkwardness). Probably wasn't sure how it would go because of Roseanne's hardcore Trump loving rhetoric. But I'm glad that wasn't really talked about, she doesn't need to be bombarded in interviews.

 

Sara Gilbert looked pressed for a lot of it (again, it seemed like awkward nervousness between all of them) and didn't seem like she wanted to be there, JMO. Even though she handled the questions great. John just joked around. Roseanne always seems a bit drugged up now (which is expected, she has bad knee pain).

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Lecy's Becky was never afraid to be raw and difficult - that's why I found her eminently watchable even when she could be so relentlessly spoiled and immature or unlikable. A real intelligence was behind it which made it harder to watch at times, because it was so real. Sarah's Becky was just a cardboard cutout.

 

I do hope Becky's character doesn't just become a gag as she did on the original series post-recast - from what I've heard I think they dig into the Mark issue more. Still need to watch last night, I was at a movie.

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