6 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Carl disappearing was an unfortunate side effect of the show making the Newmans Y&R's core family. Once the Cassandra story ended there was no place for him.

 

Y&R caved to her wishes to get her back from her extended maternity leaves. Hence the horrible rape and aftermath of the Isabella debacle.

When was the last time they mentioned Carl being off-camera, before 1998? I feel like he was mentioned from time to time a little after Cassandra's story...

Did they explain Brock's absence when he left again in 1992?

Yet I still can't believe @DeeeDee Y&R went that route for Paul and Christine as something both Hogan Sheffer and JER had famously done with "no means yes" rape. I'm glad that DD, LB, and CLB were outspoken enough it was finally addressed on screen complete with Todd Williams berating Paul but still even by Christmas 2004 it bothered the jeepers out of even the most causal Y&R fans. Even with Christine coming back for Paul after he had been dating Nina was a bit far fetched....sure they were soulmates but the rape made things awkward enough for a decade. 

33 minutes ago, cattykittens said:

 

And you are still here, stating the same thing, over & over, about how YOU WANT Devon to run CI. You aren't discussing what the TPTB want. You are expressing your desires. The only viewers I see saying that are Devon/Hevon fans.

 

I don't know what TPTB, or new writers want, but I can't imagine it's putting Devon in charge of CI.

 

 

I was going to respond but it's a waste. continue to be irrational without me. 

1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

 

Lol its funny I try to catch up on old fond memories of Victor in Kansas in 1993 yet when I go through @YRfan23's collection for that summer I swear I've seen more of the forgotten tale of Paul and Christine (they had great chemistry too!) connecting over Miles and Margaret while April is being abused before any the Newman/Abbott family drama I remember. 

 

Yes! She was on ALL THE TIME. Even when the story was going slow, Christine got a lot of catch-up kind of scenes with a variety of characters, keeping her on what seemed constantly. I'm sure that's informed by the slight annoyance she causes everytime I saw her, but still....

8 minutes ago, YRBB said:

 

Yes! She was on ALL THE TIME. Even when the story was going slow, Christine got a lot of catch-up kind of scenes with a variety of characters, keeping her on what seemed constantly. I'm sure that's informed by the slight annoyance she causes everytime I saw her, but still....

She and Victor probably got the top 2 spots for that year! (1993) LOL

@YRfan23 I've felt that Bell was setting up the 1990s to probably be his most volatile decade yet with Victor and Cassandra, Rex and Jill, Brad and Ashley while counting on a Paul/Lauren redux and a Terry Lester Jack picking up a ripe Nikki for the taking with Leanna Love in the mix all the while Chase Benson would dump Nina for Victoria. The setup was all there but I feel Bell ended up playing the safer route overall as opposed to trying to deal with more complicated situations and relationships. I think playing it safe is why Bell started to have regrets throughout the 90s by the time he retired but still Y&R was never a bad soap because he changed course on certain things, 

Edited December 13, 20169 yr by soapfan770

The funny thing is that for all the complaining about Y&R characters being in bubbles Cricket was the most well connected character.

 

Prior to entering Victor's circle in the mid 90s she was either married to, friends with or semi related to everyone else on the canvas.

3 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

@YRfan23 I've felt that Bell was setting up the 1990s to probably be his most volatile decade yet with Victor and Cassandra, Rex and Jill, Brad and Ashley while counting on a Paul/Lauren redux and a Terry Lester Jack picking up a ripe Nikki for the taking with Leanna Love in the mix all the while Chase Benson would dump Nina for Victoria. The setup was all there but I feel Bell ended up playing the safer route overall as opposed to trying to deal with more complicated situations and relationships. 

Yeah I feel like lots was in the works that was ultimately drop.....which is why I wish we had some of these original story outlines for the stories, if they still exist! LOL

despite this, the 90's (early 90's in general) are still very much IMO the golden age  and probably the decade Y&R and CBS for that matter garnered the most buzz.

Edited December 13, 20169 yr by YRfan23

32 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Yet I still can't believe @DeeeDee Y&R went that route for Paul and Christine as something both Hogan Sheffer and JER had famously done with "no means yes" rape. I'm glad that DD, LB, and CLB were outspoken enough it was finally addressed on screen complete with Todd Williams berating Paul but still even by Christmas 2004 it bothered the jeepers out of even the most causal Y&R fans. Even with Christine coming back for Paul after he had been dating Nina was a bit far fetched....sure they were soulmates but the rape made things awkward enough for a decade. 

 

The whole thing was terrible & neither character still has really yet to rebound from it. The problem wasn't so much the sexual interaction but the lack of follow through about what it meant to their relationship. Especially as a reflection of how both characters viewed themselves, each other & where they were in their lives at that point.

6 hours ago, YRBB said:

 

I'd actually love for Paul & Christine to have not being parents as a thorn/dark spot in their relationship, and a huge regret for both of them. Traci Abbott should be the one with a late in life/miracle pregnancy (after a night with Steve or a new character). BM would play the hell out of it, it would rally the Abbott family, and provide the missing heir for Traci.

 

I love this idea!

7 hours ago, YRBB said:

 

I'd actually love for Paul & Christine to have not being parents as a thorn/dark spot in their relationship, and a huge regret for both of them. Traci Abbott should be the one with a late in life/miracle pregnancy (after a night with Steve or a new character). BM would play the hell out of it, it would rally the Abbott family, and provide the missing heir for Traci.

 

Carmine gonna be the babyDaddy, LOL! 

Traci having a late in life pregnancy would be wonderful! Beth Matiland would kill it. And Traci deserves a kid.

On 10 December 2016 at 6:37 PM, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

I hope we keep them as long as possible; however, I do hope that Sussman and Alden are breeding the next generation of writers to carry on the Bell legacy. They'd be stupid not to. They seriously need to start hiring young, fresh minds to carry this show onwards.

 

 

 

This would be amazing but would those young, fresh minds need to have been watching the show for 20 years? 

Edited December 13, 20169 yr by Adamski

Personally, there are so many ways to educate yourself about a soap. There's not really any excuse. I'm fairly young(ish) and have quite a vast knowledge of soaps.

 

Soaps have long missed the boat cultivating new writers. It's why we keep recycling the same few.

Giving Tracie a baby at her age isn't going to make a different. In two years the kid will be off to college on soap time.