Members DRW50 Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 I lost all respect for Rosie Perez, and I've always liked her. It's one thing to say you don't know. It's another to try to sing a sad song because a multi-millionaire lost a few gigs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) This is a story I had difficulty reading, and one that goes to the heart of why I think FOX and white conservatives are suddenly lining up to defend Cosby's rep. While I think Cosby once made some valid points, he has, unfortunately, spent much of the last decade-plus (and longer, judging by the linked article) allowing himself to be the stalking horse for white Republican pundits to shame a lot of people. As in, "hey, Bill Cosby said it..." Tangentially related to the conservative movement issue: Ta-Nehisi Coates' fascinating piece about Cosby and his controversial "call-out" speeches from 2008, which Coates references in his wonderful new article about the allegations which marceline linked a page or two back. Edited November 21, 2014 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Aaand one more story that has some alleged details I didn't know, while also rounding up the old info on stuff like the Autumn Jackson scandal, etc. Edited November 21, 2014 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Whenever something like this happens, you tend to have ridiculous knee jerk reaction by people who think that a scandal like this erases ANY good thing the person has ever done, and puts them into a category with Adolph Hitler. I don't know if people really are that stupid, that they can't comprehend that a person can be intelligent, brilliant, and do good things, and be good and caring in SOME aspects of their life, while having a dark side, being deeply flawed, and doing bad things as well. Many people for some reason see everything from this "All or nothing" viewpoint. You embrace the good, and Condemn the bad. Pulling his new show in development I understand, and agree with. But taking his old shows off the air serve no purpose, other than denying the rest of the cast their residuals. What is the point? To make sure nothing good he's done will ever see the light of day again? To try and erase him from our history? It's happened, it's THERE. Suck it up and deal with it, take the good with the bad and move on. Edited November 21, 2014 by alphanguy74 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 I have a morbid curiosity about what drug he was giving these women. Was rohypnol around back then? I know quaaludes were popular in the 70s but I don't recall hearing that they had this kind of amnesia affect. He was obviously getting these drugs from someone like a dealer or a doctor feelgood. Who was supplying him and with what? That person shares a bit of the responsibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 Back then, people ordered them through ads in Penthouse magazine, or got them from whomever they got their other drugs from, I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 Nikki Giovanni putting Bill Cosby on blast back in 2007. I don't agree with everything she says in this video but love the fact that she nailed him for his hypocrisy. That said, I think it was out of bounds to bring up his son. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 AMEN! She kinda sounds like Wanda Sparks too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) She is a full of crap apologist and enabler. But that's ok, she's the bitch that has to live amongst it. Once she gets her throat cut and carjacked, then she might listen to what Bill had to say.... but WAIT! that's right!! She lives in a town of 40,000 people where there is no ghetto. SURE he's a hypocrite, but that doesn't mean what he said was wrong. Look up the stats of fatherless hosueholds in teh black community from 50 years ago, and then the stats from today, and you'll see the difference. People always try to use hypocrisy to negate someone's argument, and it's total bullshit. If an obese person tells you that fast food all the time and a diet laden in ho-ho's, potato chips and candy bars is bad for you, are they incorrect because they are fat and got no room to talk? People find fault with the messenger cause they' don't want to hear the message. And they don't want to hear the message because they want to be an eternal victim, because theyr'e too effin lazy to turn their own life around. Edited November 21, 2014 by alphanguy74 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Two more. ...aaand one more recent. Edited November 21, 2014 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 What is this, like 18 now? Cosby is ruined. I'm sure there are likely more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 He's no more ruined than Woody Allen or Roman Polanski. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) wrong thread sorry Edited November 21, 2014 by dragonflies 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 I think we'll hit 25-30 before this is all done. It's amazing to me to realize that he's been doing this since before I was born. I wonder how many of his victims may have already passed away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted November 21, 2014 Members Share Posted November 21, 2014 I watched the full AP video, and Is Camille on drugs?? Bill is being a stuttering mess, and she's just beaming at him with absolutely no life behind her eyes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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