My point on the HHK thing is why mention her. Why not say MM sexually harassed a co-worker.

I feel that unless the victim themself wants their name known it should stay private

As far as KSJ Im surprised he is calling for MM to speak out. I would assume KSJ would chalk up the fact that MM hasnt spoken up to a legal issue. He may not be able to

Anyone, the janitor for example, could have leaked her name. I don't know why you think it is some conspiracy or came from top brass or even an actress/actor.

KSJ probably knows that MM can say something. He did an interview about it already.

Edited January 11, 201411 yr by ajsp35801

MM spoke to NB to get his side of the story out ASAP. In the middle of the drama he quoted Ben Franklin. He clearly had a message to send and his fanatics recieved it loud and clear. They started attacking his costars and they defend themselves and the poor girl in the center of it. Good for them.

I am sorry for what HK is going through but in the end it's probably better for it to just be out there. Otherwise you'd be seeing speculation and screencaps of every actress on the show. People would be speculating it was an affair gone wrong with one of the actresses his age or saying it was SC or MCE during a rehearsal for a love scene that got taken out of context. Frankly, the fact that HK is barely out of her teens makes it look a lot worse for MM, and that might be the reason some of the fans at SOC and DC have finally accepted reality. If some of the fans can refuse to believe he did that to a young girl, imagine how much worse it would be with an allegation with no name attached.

There are the equally delusional people out there who aren't all Caps Lock over it. They keep rhapsodizing about the supposed culture at Y&R and Sony or CBS, the dysfunction at Y&R, trying to tie this back into a larger meta-issue of the set and how people have been treated at Y&R historically.

That's a lot of bullshit. It's a weasel tactic to try and depersonalize this incident and take the focus off MM and what he's apparently done. It signals to me that a number of people have accepted, for themselves, that this is likely true and now they're trying to find an external cause and effect to attribute it to that allows them to preserve their admiration for the actor and their extreme attachment to him.

I wish they'd stop with the pretentious horseshit. This has nothing to do with the culture at Y&R or its history backstage. This only has to do with one man groping one woman.

I don't buy that MM is very popular. I mean, look how little money they could come up with for that banner. I think that like every soap actor, he has a small group of crazy vocal fans who are willing to go the distance. However, he will be gone soon and that will be the end. Those crazy ass Michelle Stafford fans went away too.

Edited January 11, 201411 yr by Ann_SS

Nothing he does will make any difference at this point. If he tells his fans to leave HHK alone he is acknowledging the "rumor" that he did something to her. That puts him in the role of her savior which only highlights his role as her alleged victimizer. Then his fans will turn around and attack her harder because he's being so "nice." He already tweeted that "be kind to everyone" pablum. It just added fuel to the fire. What needs to happen is that everyone connected with the show needs to STFU but it doesn't look like that has occurred to anyone.

Agreed. I'm mystified as to why they haven't done something internally to shut this noise down.

I keep saying that everyone needs to shut up and let it die down. People keep saying that the actors arguing with the stans helps the situation. I don't see how though. All its doing is keeping the story in the spotlight and giving the attention seekers the attention they crave.

I don't buy that MM is very popular. I mean, look how little money they coul come up with for that banner. I think that like every soap actor, he has a small group of crazy vocal fans who are willing to go the distance. However, he will be gone soon and that will be the end. Those crazy ass Michelle Stafford fans went away too.

I think he is more popular than some would care to admit and vice versa. I think that his fans are overvaluing him as an actor but I also think his non-fans are underestimating his popularity. I for the life of me can't figure out why he's s popular. I do think he is a decent actor...not the best but not the worst and his character has done some despicable things. I guess he was whitewashed enough for some to accept him but while I don't loathe Adam as I once did, I still don't like him and will be glad when he is gone.

Edited January 11, 201411 yr by PJA

I keep saying that everyone needs to shut up and let it die down. People keep saying that the actors arguing with the stans helps the situation. I don't see how though. All its doing is keeping the story in the spotlight and giving the attention seekers the attention they crave.

I agree. The actors are keeping it up and now they are being attacked because of it. I think after JM and DD tweeted and were attacked then the others should have backed off as well. I think they meant well (all except EB) but its adding fuel to the fire while giving MM exactly what he wants....attention. I'm sure his ego is well fed by now.

Edited January 11, 201411 yr by PJA

My point on the HHK thing is why mention her. Why not say MM sexually harassed a co-worker.

I feel that unless the victim themself wants their name known it should stay private

You've literally been saying the same thing for weeks. At this point, what difference does it make? While I dont think her name should have been thrown out there, whats done is done. I dont get what you are expecting

I don't think he *is* that popular. I think this is just a result of the fact that there are only four soaps left and audience is made up disproportionately of hardcore fans. This isn't that different than the OLTL/GH/PP craziness. The majority of people don't care but the ones who do act like cats in a pillowcase.

I agree. And because he made himself accessible to his hardcore fans via social media, they are all like ride or die since all this happened.

There was a reply to the KSJ tweet about MM "setting the record straight" in which this person sent a slew of tweets to KSJ, all very disturbing.

My point on the HHK thing is why mention her. Why not say MM sexually harassed a co-worker.

I feel that unless the victim themself wants their name known it should stay private

As far as KSJ Im surprised he is calling for MM to speak out. I would assume KSJ would chalk up the fact that MM hasnt spoken up to a legal issue. He may not be able to

I have been following this conversation for weeks now and there reaches a point where an open mind morphs into grasping at straws. He is not being sued so I don't know what the legal issue could be. In fact, if he was innocent wouldn't he be suing everyone else for smearing his good name and damaging his career? Every actor that has commented on the subject has declined to come to his defense. Read between the lines. I think it was MAB that said he should have been fired much earlier. The guy seems to have done it. I may be misremembering things, but isn't it true he has yet to deny it?

The victim may have preferred her name not be public but once TMZ picked up the story that was no longer an option and therefore no longer a need for anyone to be discrete on that subject. In a continued effort to cling to MM being the wronged party you are ignoring every aspect of the real issue--MM and the groping of actresses--and instead zero in on "KSJ should know MM can't speak" "EB gives these interviews when he is no saint himself". All of that is peripheral nonsense meant to evade the real topic, sorry. I get you are a fan of this guy, but I think it might be time to consider he might be a guy who doesn't deserve your fandom.

That is a very good point. If he hadn't harassed HK (or if that wasn't the reason he was fired), Muhney would be screaming it from the rooftops that he's innocent. Nobody would sit back and be unfairly accused of something like this, least of all somebody with Muhney's proclivity for ego-maniacal outbursts. Add that to everything else and, once again, there's no way he can be defended.

Oh, the irony.

I have been following this conversation for weeks now and there reaches a point where an open mind morphs into grasping at straws. He is not being sued so I don't know what the legal issue could be. In fact, if he was innocent wouldn't he be suing everyone else for smearing his good name and damaging his career? Every actor that has commented on the subject has declined to come to his defense. Read between the lines. I think it was MAB that said he should have been fired much earlier. The guy seems to have done it. I may be misremembering things, but isn't it true he has yet to deny it?

The victim may have preferred her name not be public but once TMZ picked up the story that was no longer an option and therefore no longer a need for anyone to be discrete on that subject. In a continued effort to cling to MM being the wronged party you are ignoring every aspect of the real issue--MM and the groping of actresses--and instead zero in on "KSJ should know MM can't speak" "EB gives these interviews when he is no saint himself". All of that is peripheral nonsense meant to evade the real topic, sorry. I get you are a fan of this guy, but I think it might be time to consider he might be a guy who doesn't deserve your fandom.

Once again and for the FINAL Time

I dont care about MM dont even watch YR much

Originally when we had no clue what happened I was shocked people were so happy MM got fired given that he has family to support

Once it came out later that day from SharonRocks on here that MM groped HHK, I became concerned for and horrified that her name was made public.

Personally I feel that if the voctim wants their name out there it shpuld be their call and no one elses.

So saying well TMZ picked it up so its moot point I see as BS. Its still horrible that HHK was thrown under a bus to sell a story

In fact HHK is the only one being a class act in all of this

Maybe her cast-mates should follow suit with how she has handled it all

Edited January 11, 201411 yr by John